I recently am reapplying to get into law school, I am hoping to get accepted in Baylor Law School and want to increase my score to the median (160). My lsat score was a 147 but I increased it to a 150 I am hoping to increase my score to 160 so I have a good chance in getting accepted. Any tips (very detailed) would be helpful on what help you breaks into the 160's from the 150's. Right now the section that I have the most incorrect is reading comprehension and I am currently working on logical reasoning after studying logic games for a month. (Also what do you think is the best way to study to benefit me the most understanding in each section)
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I've been having a problem with test taking fatigue and low stamina. I'm well into my studies but I've been studying on and off for two years now with 2 courses under my belt. I know the material and overall I'm familiar with the test. However, when I take PT timed I notice that I do well in the beginning and I start completely bombing at the end because I feel tired and this is reflected in my score as well. All checkmarks for the first 20-25 questions and almost all wrong at the end (last 8-10 questions). When I blind review my score is drastically different and I see the stupid mistakes I make that I wouldn't have if I wasn't so fatigued. There's a 10 point difference in my timed score and blind review score. Does anyone have any great tips to increase test taking stamina and decreasing fatigue? I feel if I can get past this hurdle I'll be in a much better place in my studies to help me get close to my ideal score.
Hi! Does anyone have a sense of how LSAC distributes difficulty of sections/passages? I'm usually quite consistent across sections with my scores, but occasionally, a really hard (4 or 5 star) RC or LR section will land me -6 or more. Some exams might have one and some seem to not. Do they take this into account with the curves? Just curious what people's sense is.
I did the version 2 of the core curriculum, I think LR questions are taken from pt61-65 but I'm not sure about the RC or LG sections. If I completed the CCV2 what practice tests should I take?
After learning all of the Valid Argument Forms and then later hear J.Y. say that these have to become a part of my intuition (causing me to freak out, of course), I created a PDF in order to have a single place where I can easily study and refer to all the Valid Arguments Forms. I formatted it to mimic the style of 7sage's Sufficient and Necessary Condition Cheatsheet. Hopefully something like this will be added to the curriculum for everyone to easily access.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lhO7Hcxmz7ndgVbBqNelA6Z5KCsxKPdK/view?usp=sharing
Please let me know if there is any way to make the information clearer and whether or not I should make another PDF for Invalid Arguments.
Hope this is a helpful resource!
[Ignore the blank page -- couldn't remove it from my original doc for some reason...]
Hey everyone! Just wanted to share some things I learned during my 7sage-ing in case they help anyone. For background, I started studied for the LSAT in September of last year aiming for a 170. My diagnostic (completely blind) was 156. My first LSAT was April 2022 and I got a 166. I re-grouped and took the test again in June scoring a 171!!!! Now, I’m feeling really optimistic about getting into my dream school of UCLA! (Or maybe even thinking about NYU)!!!!
Time and proper focus is everything. I’m certain if I devoted more time I could’ve scored a 175 since my BR scores have been in that range, but my priority was being done taking the LSAT by June. If you’re discouraged by your scores you really need to sit and think, is my priority to go to law school or is it to get my dream lsat score and go to a “dream T-14”? Your answer to this should really be driving your studying. With infinite time I’m sure all of us could score 170+, but we can also all go to law school and be wonderful lawyers without that score. Don’t get bogged down in all this high scoring nonsense.
I started Core Curriculum before it was shortened so this may not apply anymore, but I think the best thing I did was skip unnecessary practice drills during the core curriculum. I’d do all the lessons but only drill past a certain point if I was really struggling. Don’t feel like you need to do all of the material. Also, I went into studying strong on reading comprehension, so I completely skipped RC core curriculum to devote that time and energy to logic games. The most important part of studying is figuring out what YOU are doing wrong and where YOU need help.
FOOLPROOFING WORKS! I hated foolproofing and at times felt annoyed with how long the logic games curriculum was, but truly it was the thing that helped me most.
BLIND REVIEW. I think possibly the best thing about the 7sage method.
Create a testing routine. What brought my score up between April and June was making sure no matter what I had a system of taking the test with timing markers (like I want to finish the first ten LR questions in 8 minutes to leave room for review) that I was consistently hitting. Confidence is what matters most on test day, and you need to be confident in your routine.
Don’t waste time taking PT after PT after PT. PT’s are just benchmarks, and at first it’s helpful to take a lot to build up stamina, but after they don’t actually help you improve. Drills and careful blind review is where your score increase happens. So, if you’re cramming in three PTs a week, I’m nearly certain you’re not devoting enough time to Blind Review and Drilling to improve.
That’s all I can think of on the top of my head, but message me if you’ve got any questions about my specific studying methods! Wishing everyone luck, and remember the LSAT is not a measure of your intellect, worth, or prospects for future success! You got this!
I took the April LSAT and scored significantly lower than my goal score and average PT. I was pretty devastated and decided I needed to try something different ahead of taking the test again in June, so I signed up for tutoring. I got matched with Chris Bearne and started immediately. Right away, I could tell just how knowledgable Chris was about this test. He helped me craft a time saving strategy for LG and consistently suggested challenging games and passages that were great for practice. Aside from all the help with actual material, Chris helped me lock in my mindset and get confident ahead of test day. I ended up scoring 5 points higher on my second test, and Chris was almost more excited than I was when I updated him on my results. He is a super smart guy and a nice person and I would recommend him for anyone else looking to get these last couple points out of their test
Making this post because JY and Bojack prompted me to (haha)
I wish I could post a screenshot of my analytics here; they paint a better picture of my progress.
Long story short, I've been prepping on and off since September last year. I truly believe that, unless you're a freak of logic and are just genetically predisposed to the sort of thinking required for this exam, you need to be prepared to grind it out for the long haul. Taking breaks (even month-long ones) is perfectly okay so long as you recognize that you'll have to build yourself back up again after a lengthy one (it's just like building strength & muscle in the gym).
If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
Honestly, I feel like I still have a long way to go. When you get a 180 on a PT here, JY sends you a message where Bojack tells you that you have no more room to improve, but I don't think that's the case. I can still improve on time, and I really need to have no room for error if I am to achieve my goal of getting a 178+ (preferably a 180) on the October LSAT.
So don't take my words as gospel haha. I'm definitely not an LSAT god or anything yet.
Safe travels everyone.
P.S. I'm actually wondering whether I should just skip to later PTs (I've been taking PTs one by one in order), and I'm also wondering how much PTs in the 40s differ from PTs in the 90s. Can someone with experience help me out here? I don't think I can take the rest of the PTs (46 - 93) by October 14, so I'm wondering how I should tackle them by that time.
Hi!
So I plan on taking my LSAT with 2-3 months of prep time... I know most take a lot longer, but I was hoping to see how practical it was.
I scored 155 on my first disgnostic exam with no prep. I have NOT taken another full exam as I'm trying to learn about the section types before retaking. On average I will get all LG right if I have enough time, which I figure it I keep practicing and keep doing them, it won't really be an issue (I missed 4 on my diagnostic so almost a full game, but I did have enough time to set up). But I am struggling on LR and RC, going through some lessons, it seems LR can be easily improved with more understanding of formatting.
I am also aiming for 170s :)
Please give opinions and any methods or tips would be greatly appreciated!!
Hey! Does anyone know if we can chew gum or have mints while taking the LSAT? Have the rules changed since the exam is online?
My first recorded LSAT was a 164 in January, I recently took the June LSAT and scored a 163. I am worried that schools will look unfavorably on there not being any improvement over a 6 month period let alone a point decrease. Should I cancel my score?
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Hi all! I’m a rising sophomore who’s interested in taking the LSAT spring of 25. This gives about a year and a half of studying, is this too much? Should I wait till later?
My GPA won’t suffer, and my diagnostic was a 158 with my goal being a 175+
Thanks!
hi guys, it finally got to my turn after being like 5800th in the queue and i think the issue got resolved bc it immediately only showed me time slots for remote testing and no in-person options (thats what i put as my preference a couple weeks ago, idk if that has anything to do with it).
anwayyyy, do you guys know how we're supposed to know if the time slot we chose is actually confirmed and reserved? like i selected a certain time slot and clicked on 'reserve test time.' the 'select' button turned into a green 'selected' button and thats about it. theres no other clickable thing on that page soooo,,, is that it or are we supposed to do smtg else after?
I am currently signed up to take the August LSAT and I've been debating on taking the test at an in-person testing center this go around. Unfortunately, my first two attempts taking the LSAT I ran into technical difficulties and issues with my proctor interrupting, which caused me to lose ~8 minutes on my most recent attempt in June. Would love to hear other people's opinion on in-person testing vs online before I make my final decision this afternoon. Thanks!
Or can you work in this field without it
Hi,
So, I do better when I am moving my mouth when I am reading. Obviously, I won't be making noise or actually talking. The fact of me just moving my mouth helps me slow down and absorb the test stimulus and answer choices. I was wondering if the proctor would be mad at me for moving my mouth but making no noise during the LSAT exam? This is in the scenario of both in-person and virtual testing environments.
not sure how to increase my score i feel stuck
Hi everyone,
I am just beginning my LSAT study journey and working through Foundations in V2 of the CC. For the quizzes such as complex arguments, for, since, because and others how many times have you guys retaken the quizzes to get the correct answers?
Here is what I am doing:
If I get the question right on the first try I do not retake the question. However, if I get it wrong, I retake the quiz and answer the questions until I get them correct twice.
What do you guys advise?
Anyone have good tips or software to expand your vocabulary? I have been keeping a running list of definitions of unfamiliar words I have encountered, yet I would still like to expand my vocabulary outside of the LSAT
Hi everyone,
I wanted to ask for some pointers on how to best use the 7Sage curriculum after having already completed a full Kaplan Course. I feel like I understand LR foundations pretty well and need the most help in LG and RC. I've taken 8 full length PTs and I've also done timing sections from a handful of other tests.
Is it better to start from scratch with 7Sage's full curriculum or skip to the video sections that target my weak areas? If you switched to 7Sage from another test prep provider, what did you do?
Hello! I just took PT1, and the questions on it seemed easier than the ones I've seen on later tests. (This is my subjective judgement that may have no relation to reality.) I'm just wondering if there is any possibility that the tests have become more difficult over time, and PT1 seemed easier because it actually WAS easier. Any thoughts? Thank you!
Should blind-review be completed for logical reasoning or every section of the LSAT prep test?
Have decided to jump from KhanAcademy to 7Sage and eager to run an analysis on prep tests, but the prep test I took at Khan, which supposedly matches up to Test 66, isn't transferring 1:1 - the various sections are out of order. Should I 1) just enter the answers from left to right columns (which seems wrong, because the number of questions don't mesh) or 2) enter the answers in corresponding columns (i.e. LR from Khan goes into LR at 7Sage) or 3) is this not a 1:1 test and is merely something KhanAcademy formulated on its own, thus creating an imperfect correspondence with 7Sage's Test 66?
I am registered to take the Aug LSAT and been "prepping" since April. Today I took another full length test (3rd one so far), and scored a 159 which is my highest score yet and a 4 point increase from my first practice test that I took at the beginning of April. In that time, I have been focusing mostly on LGs with some LR (necessary assumptions, flaw, and POI mostly). The majority of my improvement came from LGs, went from went from 13 incorrect to 7 incorrect. My LR score has stayed consistent across all three practice tests (around 60% correct), and my RC score has decreased from 100% to around 80%.
My target score is 167. Does that sound realistic based on my current progress? or would ~163-5 be more attainable? Also, what area should I focus on most to generate the greatest score increase in the remaining study time that I have? One item of note, because of a change in more work schedule, I have ~10 more hours to study per week that I have had in the previous months. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks!