Long time lurker, first time poster. Here to tell you all to dream big.

TLDR: Scored 173 on the Oct LSAT, which is the highest I have EVER scored. My miracle worker is 7Sage tutor @"Chris Nguyen"! His encouragement, guidance, and tailored tips (in test taking AND general LSAT tips) helped me score the highest I ever have - and hopefully for the last time ever!

Very Long, Might Read Version:

Decided to apply to law school in early 2021 and signed up for 7Sage. Some people are able to juggle 40 hours of work with intense studying and even childcare on the side. Not me. I was overworked, underpaid, and generally Not Having A Good Time. I wanted to apply in a few months, so I quit my job and moved into my parents' attic to study full time.

I don't think people talk enough about recovering from burn out, especially in this post-COVID world. I thought quitting my job would fix my sad and tired brain. It did not. I took the Nov 2021 LSAT and then the Jan 2022 LSAT as a last hail Mary. She did not answer my prayers, which makes sense because I never go to church. I scored 163 both times, which crushed me, as my diagnostic was 165.

Shortly after my Jan LSAT, I lost someone very close to me and spent the next few months grieving and taking a break from the LSAT. I was not in a good headspace and needed to find the joy in life again. Below are a few things that helped:

I began studying again in May 2022. I finished the core curriculum in a few months. I was scoring in the mid 160s and wanted to get at least a 173. the idea of self studying seems really noble -- the whole idea of "I built a study schedule, identified my weaknesses, implemented structure and discipline, and was able to get a full scholly for free all by myself" made me want to BE a 170s-scoring self studier. But I didn't really know how to study post core curriculum (esp in knowing which PTs to not "waste" early on), and so I signed up for a free 30 min consult call with 7sage tutoring.

I was matched up with Chris. Our weekly sessions added much-needed structure in my life, and he assigned daily homework tailored to my needs. I think our most important lessons have been on test taking mentality. One thing he tells me often is that we need to "practice letting go" -- of old habits, of time-consuming questions, and of negative thoughts like "UGH I HATE THIS TEST!" (direct quotation).

All of this contributed to my scoring the highest I ever have -- a 173 -- on the Oct LSAT, no less. My highest PT was 170 on an early 80s PT, but I was in the mid 160s for the vast majority of my PTs. While my PT test taking conditions were never ideal (and so maybe I underscored on those takes), never in a million years did I expect to hit my target LSAT score so soon. I didn't feel great about my Oct LSAT: I misread an easy rule on my first LG game and had to rush the rest of the section, and I didn't have great time management on LR and RC. I even considered cancelling. This is normal! Sometimes the best scores come from dissatisfying test taking experiences.

So if you lack self discipline and can't self-study your way into the 170s -- no shame. Big same. it’s ok to ask for help. If you're able to afford it, 7Sage tutoring might pay off for you, as it did for me.

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I often usually get 2/5 right on diffucilty 4 and 5 of the practice questions for finding mainconclusion and supporting main conclusion concepts. Although I do decently well on difficulty 1-3 questions. Am I on track for a decent lsat score or should I be correctly answering all of these practice questions given at teh end of each lessonl

Hi, I am international and my official lsat score is 173. My friend said that the higher the lsat score is the better. In my recent last pt score is 176~178, so should I take again? I have a reservation for the November exam. Does 176 and 173 make a lot of difference? It's so stressful to take the lsat again. I spent more than three years of my time and effort until I was almost 153 to 173.Please give me some advice.Thank you :)

My LSAC Prep Plus subscription expires sooner (before the November exam) and I am not sure if I need it for one more year. The thing is I am taking the November test and until that day, I need it. Is there any other options to maintain the subscription for one more month? Thank you.

Got a 169. Not my PB but pretty great considering how bad I had to pee during the first 2 sections. Much love and best of luck to future test takers.

I just got my oct lsat back and sadly it was quite lower than my goal score. I was able to get 170+ for my PTs in the weeks leading up to my LSAT but somehow on the real thing I just really underperformed. I also had many issues with ProctorU and it really made me lose my focus during the exam, which I think largely contributed to my performance.

Since I’m international there’s no Nov LSAT so the next one I have is Jan. It’s my last chance for this cycle and I really want to do well. Can I please have advice on how I should move forward? I took a break since the oct lsat until the score release and I'm ready to get back at it!! I’m thinking of doing a full PT per day but I’m not sure if this is the right path? I’ve done all of the exam questions on 7sage since 2000 in drill form and PT70+ in full PT form) so I’m also hoping I don’t remember any answers.

Thank you so much :)

I just wanted to give a big shoutout to 7sage and Chris Bearne! I took the August LSAT and was not super happy with my score and I decided to register for the October test, I just received my score back and made a 9 point jump (95th percentile). I am never taking the LSAT again, and I could not have done it w/out Chris, he is such an amazing tutor. Specifically, I was struggling with RC & LR, and he improved both sections significantly.

When will we have access to the PT93 Explanations videos?

Thinking about taking it before Nov LSAT

I'm not even sure what my diagnostic score was, but I think it was around a 143, it has been over a year since that happened, but I am happy to finally say that my LSAT journey is over. Logged in today to see a 177. 7Sage is masterful!!

If you're looking for a tutor, please message me. (hopefully that is allowed on this forum?). I was stuck in the low 160s all throughout last year, had to cancel my Oct 2021 LSAT because I panicked. Decided to delay a year and study more. Found a tutor, wouldn't have gotten here without him.

Hey everyone, your advice would be much appreciated. I did a very dumb thing and retook a 170. In my defense, I was PTing between 173-178 for the last 3 months, which is the only reason I decided to do it. Score release today was a nightmare and I got a 167, which I haven't scored since before the June test. There were no extenuating circumstances besides test anxiety and normal Proctor U issues. I have score preview, but I'm not sure whether a second cancel would look worse than a 3 point score drop. Things to consider (1) Admissions could assume the cancel was much worse than a 167 (2) 167 and 170 are technically in the same score band, but now it looks like I am at the lower end rather than the higher end (3) I can't retake before my applications are due so don't ask lol. If it helps, I am a nURM, nKJD, 3.90 applicant that graduated a year early from a non-ivy with some international/bilingual work experience trying for a T-10 school (NYU is my dream). Thanks for all of your help! I've heard such mixed things.

Thank you 7sage! I just got my results back from the October LSAT and I got a 176! Thank you for the fantastic curriculum, excellent lessons and well set up and easy to use site. Thanks to you I can apply to my dream colleges, and be confident of getting in. Thank you from the bottom of my heart🙏

I had a monthly + live subscription that ends November 20,2022. However, I just downgraded to the monthly today but for some reason I can no longer access the live classes. I assumed that I had at least till November 20 to access these classes since I paid for a full month. Can you help me access the live classes till November 20, when the new monthly subscription is supposed to kick in. Thank you

After taking a preptest how do you review your wrong answers?

When would LSAC get rid of LG? Sometime in 2023?

Super nervous when that will happen.. If they get rid of LG it will significantly lower my score since helped me score better than other sections.. Did any of you guys hear about when exactly in 2023 it will happen?

I'm taking test in November (2nd test) but looking into 2023 test dates as well but I want to take it before the format changes. :(

Would the change become effective after August 2023?

Any thoughts will be appreciated!

Hello!

To all those who wrote the LSAT live on Proctor U,

did you download the Proctor U extension?

Context: I have the latest MacBook but when I do an equipment test on Proctor U, it shows some failures (for wifi speed and screen) and suggests to download the extension. I keep hearing its spyware and kills your computer settings...

Out of curiosity, do you guys warm up before a PT?

If so, what do you guys do for each section and how do you make your selection of questions?

For example, for LR do you choose random easy questions or are the questions selected for personal reasons (like the question reminds you of certain fundamentals or concepts)

It’s really difficult to highlight one single word on Lawhub.

I need to try couple times to get the word highlighted.

Does anyone know how to fix this issue? Thanks.

How many timed sections should I take on each day ahead of the Nov test?

What is everyone else doing to prepare?

Hi everyone,

The LSAC has provided the following information about their upcoming LSAC Analytical Reasoning Field Study scheduled to take place December 16 and 17.

As part of the LSAC's ongoing efforts to improve the LSAT, they are researching alternative, equally valid ways to assess analytical reasoning (AR) skills (also known as Logic Games).This is a long-term research effort that they’ve been working on for several years and will continue for some time.

As part of this effort, the LSAC included a special research section in the June 2022 LSAT administration for some test takers. Building on that research, they will administer a three-section AR field study to several thousand volunteers.

Participation is open to anyone 18 years or older in the United States or Canada who has an LSAC.org account. This will include future and past test takers, as well as people who are considering taking the LSAT. The same terms and conditions apply as a regular LSAT administration.

The field study will be administered in the same live, remotely proctored format as a standard LSAT, using ProctorU and LawHub. The field study will consist of three sections: one section of traditional AR questions and two sections of questions that use alternative approaches to assess AR skills.

As an incentive for your participation, test takers will receive feedback on their performance on the traditional AR questions. Every study participant will receive a copy of the traditional AR section, the correct answers, and the answers they provided for each question. Upon completion of the LSAC AR Field Study, only the traditional AR section will be disclosed.

The data gathered in this study will enable the LSAC to continue its rigorous testing and analysis to ensure that potential new question types have the same reliability and predictive validity as current AR questions so that schools remain confident of the LSAT’s predictive value.

It is important to reiterate that there are no plans to change any part of the LSAT’s content in the near future. If and when the LSAC decides to incorporate any new question types into the actual LSAT, they will provide lengthy advance notice, practice questions, and explanatory materials prior to LSAC using any new question type in a scored section of the LSAT.

You can sign up for the LSAC Analytical Reasoning Field Study here.

Anyone else super nervous? I feel like I probably scored right at the borderline of the score margin I want and I’m losing my mind. Either went really well or will have to cram for the November test, all I can think about right now.

How many practice tests should one take in a week?

I took the most recent pt and scored 22 correct on one LR section and only 9 correct on the other section.

Throughout my LSAT studies, my score for LR varies significantly per section. Either 18-22 correct on one section and 9-15 correct on the other.

What does this mean? Any tips or strategies to consistently get my LR score between the 18-22 correct range for both sections?

Recently received advice that for my goal score - currently averaging 152 to 154 (sorry im typing this after a very long day) - just need around 7-10 more answers total correct to get what I need for my top schools. advice was to keep up LR and Reading and try to improve these sections, but since thats around -8 -9 and logic games is around - 11to -13, it makes most sense with the time crunch to keep drilling logic games as everyone has labeled this section "easiest to improve on."

I agree, and I can see why. Please help me though. The reading comes to me more naturally than logic games and I know its because it takes time / practice / nothing like you've ever done in academic history etc, I know my brain and im trying to articulate that these puzzles are very hard for me in a general sense. I usually can get the set up pretty good for most games even if im not too fast at it, understand the logic behind it, but the questions is where I go wrong. yes I know there is video explanations. I have been watching them. its hard to keep up with the question format in the explanations vs what I have on paper (with such strict time constraints) and the explanations are not necessarily helping me improve, even when I truly am listening and taking it in.

It would mean the world to me for thorough advice and step by step insight. What would you do in my situation, specifically? Im willing to put in the work, but feel like I need to change something.

Thank you so much in advance.

https://i.imgur.com/R4qMLyz.png

Here is my latest results.

Total: 154

LR : -9

LG - 11

RC -8

Please no pretentious comments. I need real advice. Taking November LSAT and just need 158 to 160 for high likelihood of getting into my schools, lmu chapman usd etc. please help me out with the best study techniques for for these last two weeks. I can do it.

I only need about 5-7 more correct answers on average which means either perfecting one section or a little bit in each. What would you do? Drill drill drill?

Can someone help me with logic games?

Please any genuine and thorough advice would mean the world catered specifically to my situation / goals

Hi! Im taking a month or two off studying, and I wanted to "cancel" my membership for those two months. Does anyone know if I will lose all of my test data if i cancel for two months and renew in January?