Hey guys,

I've been studying for around 4 months and I've been getting quite discouraged by the big differences in my practice test and blind review scores, and was hoping to see if i could get any advice from anyone whose had similar experiences as me.

I have done around 20 practice tests and noticed that when i do them completely untimed, I get high around a 170 (give and take 3-4 points) However, the problem is that when i do them under timed settings, my score drops all the way down to 159-160s... its really concerning me, especially that i have a test scheduled this September.

Any advice would be appreciated! (Would also like to know how long you guys think the process of passing this timed vs untimed hurdle might take)

Thanks,

-K

August LSAT is my first official LSAT attempt, I got 165. This score is 5 more points than the 75th percentile of my target school. I think chances to be admitted is quite sure. So right now my question is that should I retake the LSAT to secure more scholarship? I checked the 509 report, I think maybe I can get more than half scholarship. But it is still too expensive for me, I need the full scholarship.

So here is the question:

1.Go ahead to apply with my current score. The good thing of this is that I save time and don't have to do it again. And also I can submit early, I think this would increase my chance of scholarship, but I am not sure, pls correct me if I am wrong. The bad thing is that my score is not super high enough to secure full scholarship. But, wait, am I wrong to think in this way. The higher above 75th percentile, the bigger scholarship?

So if I get higher score, then apply on Nov 2, is my chance to get full scholarship biggest?

The bad thing about this plan is I retake, but not good score, then I am late in applying. And then does it mean I screw myself?

Really need advice!

I didn't think I would ever write one of these posts but alas.

In 2019, I started with a diagnostic score of 154. After studying for two years, I scored a 166 in the September 2021 test. I dipped to a 163 in the October 2021 test. After that, I was incredibly discouraged, took a break from studying, decided not to apply to law school that cycle, and even contemplated whether law school was right for me. I restarted studying this past summer, aggressively PTing, drilling, and reviewing, and I'm so happy I was able to increase, even if if it's only three points, my score to a 169.

Could not have done this without 7sage's thorough explanations and resources -- thank you.

My two things of unsolicited advice:

(1) Where there's a will, there's a f**king way.

This journey was incredibly challenging -- mentally and emotionally -- to the point where I asked myself repeatedly whether I even wanted to pursue the law. I felt like I had hit a wall, not once but multiple times, and kept going using brute force because I wanted it. If you want it and if you are willing to put in the work, you can -- and will -- achieve it.

(2) This is your journey and no one else's.

You know what's best for you. You know what study method works for you and how much you need to study to achieve the score you want. For me, because I'm not innately smart, I knew I had to put in more than five times the work than the average person. I answered every PT question, including RC, LG, and LR, from PT 15 and up at least five times (for LG, I did every question six to ten times). I know, crazy. This strategy doesn't work for everyone, but for me, I knew I had to drill these questions several times to develop my ability to recall different patterns (LSAT is all about pattern recognition). Figure out what works for you, and develop your own strategy. Block out the outside noise from your parents, tutors, or other high scorers -- they don't know what works best for you, only you do.

Good luck!

Started studying July 2021, took Jan 166, Feb 165, March 169…took a month off of studying, studied all summer and opened a 176 today!!!! I NEVER thought I could do it. Especially after 3 160-somethings in a row. I am crying. THANK YOU 7SAGE AND JY!!!

All,

After repeatedly getting diagnostics in the 130's I decided to get 7sage in January 2021. I foolishly believed that I only needed help with Logic Games and put the bulk of my focus there but I realized Logic Games was taking me a REALLY long term to get through so I decided midway through 2021 to go through the entire CC in order beginning with lesson one. I also decided I wouldn't do another PT until I have finished the CC and have a solid understanding of how this exam works. Sometimes, I would spend hours slaving over a topic until I understood it and as such my progress through the CC has been slower than I hoped for. Am I taking the right approach? Is there a better approach to this?

Running into this problem when I try to link prepplus with account. I think this is due to previously linking prepplus with another 7sage account( an old one I thought I lost).

Would there be anyways to resolve this?

Best,

Ricky

I received a 172 on the August test, which was my first attempt. I have a 3.95 uGPA and am not URM. I have a graduate degree and am in the process of getting another. I also have some relevant legal work experience. My PR was a 177 (with a 180 BR). I think I could do better than 172 if I took it again, but ideally, I would like to stop studying.

I'm hoping to go to HYS or Chicago, or to get substantial merit aid from another T14. Do you think it's worth retaking? Or are my chances decent as is?

Thanks!

Just got my August LSAT score back, got a 170. I'm a D1 athlete, have a 4.0 GPA, and a decent resume but I'm shooting for Harvard, Yale, or Standard. I'm an URM but I'm also applying straight out of undergrad. My highest score on a PT was 176. Should I re-take the LSAT in September? Any advice is greatly appreciated :)

Is it possible to retake just the writing without the whole LSAT? I'm happy with my score but don't love my writing sample.

Sorry -- I'm sure this answer is already out there somewhere but I'm having a weirdly hard time finding it.

Thank you!

Do not go to bed late a night before the exam

Be positive, you can retake it!

Always consider other career options.

DO NOT compare yourself to others, we all have different ways of learning

Your plan B and C could be applying to a mid-tier university, often they even get better jobs!

I suggest you buying the following LSAT For Dummies book I brought on Amazon. It helped me so much! I highly recommend it! It simplified the questions in plain language in a way that it made sense intuitively! It really helped me score 165!

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Hi everyone,

With LSAT Writing for the September 2022 LSAT about to open on Thursday, September 1, 2022, the LSAC wanted to send a quick reminder about LSAT Writing scratch paper use.

Scratch paper is not permitted during an LSAT Writing session. A digital note taking section is available within the LSAT Writing module to type notes as you write your essay.

You can review the LSAT Writing guidelines, including the Frequently Asked Questions section at the LSAT Writing page on LSAC.org.

If you have any other questions, or need further explanations, you can contact a Candidate Services representative via the chat feature located on the bottom right-hand corner of the pages on LSAC.org, email the LSAC at LSACinfo@LSAC.org with “September LSAT” in the subject line, or call them at 215.968.1001.

Hello 7Sage!

I am a 3L at Georgia Law. I want to offer myself as a resource for anyone interested. Feel free to shoot me a PM! 7Sage was such a resource for me; always looking to give back.

I plan to sit for the July 2023 New Mexico bar. Postgrad, I am interested in Hispanic and Latino civil rights work and advocacy. Specifically, issues affecting the Nuevomexicano community.

1L summer, I worked for a Federal District Court Judge and an Immigration Law Firm. Last fall, I did a D.C. Semester in Practice working for the Department of Justice Civil Rights Division. This past summer, I worked at the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund's (MALDEF) National Public Policy office in D.C.!

I was a 154 LSAT, a 3.5 GPA, a small state school, 4 years of work experience, and URM status. For any other stats, ask!

I look forward to helping anyone I can!

Best,

Jonah

Hey guys, just wondering what’s the likeliness to have new PTs this year? Thanks!

Hi all

I remember last year that an excel sheet with the new and previous admission stats were released (I think maybe by Spivey?) Does anyone know if that exists at the moment or when it might? Or if there is another document that is tracking any changes in admissions stats already?

Thanks!

Hey everyone, do you guys think the November lsat is too late for this application period? Im scoring in the 160s on PTs and im aiming for T20 schools so I thought of taking the November lsat instead of October to have more study time. I was reading around and some sites say that November is too late and I just wanted everyone’s opinion on this. Thanks!!

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Hello,

I was wondering about a study method I saw recently and if anyone has employed something similar.

This involves completing almost an entire part of the core curriculum, but leaving a part of each section unfinished before returning at a later time.

For example, completing all the lessons in the “Most Strongly Supported” section of Logical Reasoning. Then, completing about half of the practice sets towards the end of the lesson.

The reason being that returning to finish the remaining practice sets at a later time forces you to review the content down the road. This refreshes your memory and also allows you to move and continue through the curriculum.

Was wondering if anyone has studied in a similar way? Thanks

I bought it 5 months ago and now it saying to purchase the course?

how can I take an individual section for practice (yes I. know there is drills you can create) from a practice test? like lets say I wanna just do reading from sept of 2018 for practice ?how can I modify that

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What are some beneficial strategies for using scratch paper? Currently, I only use my scratch paper for LG diagramming and the occasional conditional that pops up on the LR section.

However, I am wondering if there are any other ways to use my scratch paper for the non-games sections. It seems like it could help digest certain passages in these sections. I would love to hear how others employ their scratch paper to its fullest potential.

In the explanation videos, he is always copying & pasting his gameboards. Can we do that during the test? Is our scratch "paper" just open space on the screen? He'll also write notes on the RC section's passage. I don't get how it will actually be during the test. Is it all on the computer, is it all on paper, or is the test on the computer, but the scratch paper we're given is physical?

Hi all,

I am taking the October and November LSATs and I am currently on hour 149/219 in the CC. I still have to complete all my PTs.

It doesn't seem feasible to expect to complete the entire CC plus all the PTs before my test dates. Should I prioritize completing the CC and the drills or should I jump around the CC and focus on completing more PTs? I am finished with the LR and I currently jump back and forth between LG and RC, RC coming more naturally to me than LG, which I will need to study the most.

Any comments appreciated!

GG

I've been studying LSAT for 2 months full-time now but I still feel super lost.

I just took my first Prep Test (PT70) and got 152 because I could not finish any of the LSAC sections on time.

I feel like I do not have the "mental stamina" to do even one section with my best ability.

The most discouraging part is that I feel like I am wasting so much time and energy everyday (studying 6+hrs a day) but only get to do and review about 2 sections a day.

What can I do better and make the best out of my time before I take October LSAT?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Hi everyone!

I've recently been doing lots of timed RC passages and notice that when I look at the time breakdown for the passage, I see the target setup time is typically 1:45 - 3:00 minutes, but never longer. My typical "setup times" are in the 3:50-5:00 minute range and then spend 3-4 minutes on questions, whereas the target question time is anywhere from 5-7 minutes.

Is this what everyone is doing? I'm struggling to understand how JY or whoever sets the target setup time is going through these passages and comprehending them well in that quick of a time. I've never thought I was a slow reader, but these setup times are making me think otherwise.

Any tips or thoughts?

Thanks!