Hi everyone,

I am planning on taking the LSAT Flex in a few weeks, and I find that I struggle with In/Out Advanced games. Does anyone have any tips for how to best approach these and for how to be completely accurate? Thanks.

What would you say it means that I consistently miss more AFTER doing blind review than in my initial run of a problem set? Is it just a matter of second guessing myself too much or is it a bigger fundamental issue? If it's just a matter of second guessing, any advice on how to combat it? Thanks fellow LSAT warriors!

Hi, I was threw off by this logic line as title.

My grammatical understanding is when using "not A or B", the sentence sometimes mean not A and not B.

If a sentence uses "not A or not B", then it means literally "not A or not B".

However, when seeing a sentence "unless A or B", I am not sure how to interpret such sentence.

So I wanna know which is the correct translation of the title?

(i) not A if neither P nor Q

(ii) not A if not P or not Q

Thank you for your time.

Appreciatively,

Leon

Since questions that require making inferences about some/most statements vary across type, I was wondering if anyone had a list or even a question they might recommend as a good test of your ability to chain/negate/make inferences with some/most statements. Any tips, resources, or where to look would be appreciated!

LSAT-Flex Feb registering on Proctor, is it started for anyone?

Hi! I am using the LSAT trainer and studying for between 15 and 20 hours a week while working full time. I am shooting for the April test and trying to improve my score from a 155 to breaking 170. Does anyone have any advice on supplementing The Trainer? I'm doing a lot of practice actual exams (62-81). Considering using the 7Sage monthly subscription for the last few months of test prep to help with reviewing. Anyone do the same thing? I am about 6 weeks into studying. When do most folks see improvement in their scores?

Hi. Can anyone explain why E is incorrect and how A is supported? Thanks!!

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I've taken the LSAT once so far and scored (what I estimate to be) a -3. On PTs, I generally get anywhere from -1 to -5, with an average of -4 in a normal section. There is a lot of fluctuation is my LG performance, depending on the section.

I've been doing games for a long time now. I started with the PowerScore LG bible and went through that twice. Since then, I've FoolProofed a bunch of games and also drilled most of the early games (PT1-20) by game type.

I don't feel particularly weak with any of the most common games (sequencing, grouping). If I just sit through a section in BR, I can almost always get to -0 on my own. Here are my weaknesses right now:

Execution: I find that during the timed section, I sometimes let my nerves get the best of me. When I'm just reviewing, I feel like I can calmly work through a section, but during the timed run, my form just goes out the window sometimes.

Making inferences: This has to do with nerves as well. I find that I tend to rush into the questions because of a lack of confidence with making inferences up front (i.e., before starting the question).

Timing: On my actual administration, I didn't have enough time for 2 of the questions, so I had to guess them. That's how I know I lost at least two points in LG. I sometimes lose time on the easier games in a section. On some sections that are quite hard to me, I sometimes manage my time so poorly that I cannot comfortably finish all 4 games.

Weird games: I struggle with what PowerScore calls pattern games, mapping games, and, to a lesser extent (because they are so rare) circular games. I froze when I came across the Employee's Workpiece game in PT72, and I tend to have a lot of difficulty with games that have bizarre setups. And this is despite having worked through the weird games in the early PTs.

I've watched a handful of the videos in the LG section of the Core Curriculum, and I've worked through a few question sets. I've done every game in there already, and I've probably seen the explanation videos for many of the games. Is there anything special about the LG Core Curriculum that I won't get just by drilling games and watching the explanation videos for each game? Does J.Y. add anything extra in the LG Core Curriculum?

How can I best spend my time if I want to get from where I am to -0 consistently? I am scheduled for the April test, so I still have more than two months, and I feel like I definitely have plenty of time to get to -0 consistently before then, since I'm so close!

Should I just drill games, watch the explanation videos, and then FoolProof?

Were any of you stuck at the -3/-4 range before getting to -0 consistently?

I've heard many people who have gotten to -0 consistently on the games sections swear by the LG Core Curriculum, but I wonder if it would be a good investment of time for me, given my situation.

I would also appreciate any advice from you all about how I can get from where I am now to -0 consistently. I know that if I can get to -0 consistently, I will be able to score in the 170s consistently. I'd also love any advice about addressing my weaknesses mentioned above.

Hi everyone! Does anyone know when we can register for our test on proctor u?

Hello! So it was my first time taking the LSAT exam so I did not have a writing prompt on file. I was curious about the scores. I know the scores are supposed to be released in a few days. How long does it take to process the writing portion? Also, I did buy the first-time test taker preview option but if I don’t like my grade and I chose to not save the grade, would I still be able to keep my writing prompt on file?

Thank you!

Hi. How has anyone seen improvement in being able to answer the questions in time? I’m not struggling too much to get them if I have unlimited time and I’m sure most can relate

With games they have patterns so it gets repeated you can apply. Even a little with LR

but with RC you are starting over with each passage. Has anyone seen improvement and have any tips on how to drill down time?

Appreciate it !!

I took the LSAT once already and scored (what I estimate to be) -3 in LG. I am currently getting anywhere between -1 and -5 on the LG section when I take PTs. I'm registered for the April test, and I'd like to be able to get my LG performance down to -0 consistently as soon as possible.

Prior to that I've already spent a lot of time studying games. In fact, I think I may have actually done too much such that the practice was not actually helpful. Basically, at one point, for a period of 1-2 months, I did about 16 games every day (on top of studying hours for the other parts of the test). Given how much work that is, in retrospect I think I ended up just rushing through the drilling. Drilling like that was initially helpful because I was simply exposed to a lot of games, over and over again. But I also realise now that, besides memorising some inferences, I don't think I learned very much from each game during that time. I wasn't optimising my approach each time I did a game––I was simply repeating the steps that I had already memorised.

In addition, because I did so many games, after a while I felt completely burned out when it came to the LG section. About two weeks before the test, I just could not stomach drilling any more games, and I ended up just not touching LG for two weeks.

So, for those of you who manage to get -0 consistently on LG, how many games, on average, would you drill on a single day? I'd like to reach -0 as soon as I can because that will get me firmly into the 170s, and so my focus now is on LG (while still working on LR and RC, of course). How many games should I aim to drill each day to be able to achieve my goal of -0 soon?

I believe I've got my fundamentals down. I've seen a really large number of games now, and I can comfortably get to -0 on BR. My diagramming is almost always efficient. Where I am weak is really in execution, namely, the decisions that I make within a game/section (e.g., when to split the game board; how to make smart inferences upfront; how much time to allocate to each game). I also need to get better at doing the weird games (e.g., pattern games, mapping games, circular games).

Should I focus on slowly down with each game when I am drilling? Should I go back to the LG core curriculum? I'd appreciate any advice!

[I am posting on behalf of a 7Sage user. Please feel free to leave your comments below. Thank you for your help!]

"From 4 Groups Mixed Translations Flashcards, I've been stuck on two problems and I think it comes from a lack of understanding of how Group 3 and Group 4 work.

Not both /S and O is /S -> /O. I intuitively understand this but I don't understand how the rules make this happen. Same goes for None of the M is /D being M -> D. Shouldn't it be /M -> D?

I couldn't find any replies covering this."

https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/4-groups-mixed-translations-flashcards/

I saw an article posted in 2019 that LSAC is removing logic games from the LSAT due to a blind kid not being able to take that portion of the exam? Are the logic games no longer on the LSAT?

When doing Blind review for logic games, should you do all the questions from scratch or just be able to convince yourself why an answer has to be correct and the other answer choices have to be wrong?

What is the difference between AC C and E?

Both ACs look very similar in form, but is it because C says needs of the city as a whole while E just says that serves an area well? The stimulus doesn't say that Chen's plan is what the city "needs" but that it is "better for the city as a whole"

I could be missing the whole point here. When identifying the flaw, I thought it was how Ripley's plan was being attacked because of the reputation of its supporter who places its own interests even at the detriment of the city (felt kind of ad hominem-ish). In this sense, both AC C and E seem to be performing the same flaw.

Please help and thank you

I just took the lsat writing section and I forgot to show both sides of my scratch paper when I started scanning my room. Has anyone experienced the same thing? Will I have to retake the test??

Being an ESL speaker, I noticed the complex grammars were what usually slowed me down. Recently, I was recommended by a linguistic professor to learn English Syntax. Does anyone here also agree that having a good knowledge about syntax SUBSTANTIALLY help your processing hard questions? If so, would you be so kind to recommend some books?

Many thanks,

Leon

I took the retake yesterday, I realized the exam overall was fairly easy. However, I underperformed. I ended up guessing on the last two LG questions because I ran out of time because I spent too much time on the 3rd game which i think maybe got 1 or 2 wrong, and I usually score a -2 to -0. On the LR, I went slower as well. Im so upset that I left some points on the table due to strategic errors, and also for the fact that this was an easy exam and I let the pressure get to me. Now I'm afraid I might not get my goal score. Anyone took the retake? how did it go for you?

I understand this:

A ---most---> B -----> C | Valid Inference A---most--->C

I don't understand this:

A -----> B ---most---> C | no valid inference

Why isn't A (---some---) C a valid inference?

Please Help!!! :_(

Does anyone know when that email is going to go out that lets you pick a time/date for the Flex? When I took the LSAT-Flex in August, I remember getting that email at a random time, and only noticing it because my friend texted me. I don't monitor my email that closely, can't find this answer online, and would really like to take the test on Sunday instead of Saturday. Let me know if anyone can help me out here!

Hey everyone!

I had tremendous success fool proofing the games. Has anyone tried "fool-proofing" reading comp passages with any success?

Or are there any other practice strategies that can help with improvement?

Any tips on improving reading comp? Consistently missing 10-13 each time....Have went through the CC a few times.

It sucks.

I read recently that RC has gotten more difficult over the years. What are your thoughts? For those of you who have completed both old (PT 20-40) and new (PT 80+) RC sections, do you see a noticeable difference in RC passage/question difficulty? Are your old scores consistent with your new scores, or do you see a dip as they get more recent?

I get worried when people say I shouldn't use old tests as a gauge for how I'd do on new tests, but I'm not yet ready to burn through recent resources to find out myself, haha! (Also, if someone already asked this I would love to know where to find the thread!!)

I am really confused by this question, partially because I'm not sure what the question stem is asking us to do, but then also, I don't get why the answer is E. I think the q-stem wants us to consider one of the answer choices as the conclusion put out by the health association. I just feel very lost by this question.

The critic seems to undermine B, but I guess its wrong because its not something the Health Association would say? A-D don't seem to be things that the critic would undermine. They seem irrelevant.

The only way I look at E is that since volunteers are able to suceed, something stronger than a volunteer (being told by a physician) would also have to succeed and the critic's response is still applicable?