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I started studying in February (Taking the October test, fees paid ;) I've completed all of the course material and now am working through the PTs from oldest to most recent. My average on my PTs is 163 which I'm okay with. 153 on my first diagnostic. I've taken 11 PTs now so It's a pretty solid average I believe (159 worst -166 best). My question is for those who have taken a recent test... I've heard that the tests are changing, especially the logic games with the reintroduction of maps, circles etc., Has anyone taken a recent test that can compare it to tests in the 50-60 range? I'm confident in my abilities as long as they haven't gone and introduced something crazy that my fundamentals haven't prepared me for. I'm saving the 70s tests for the last two weeks. Just trying to get some insight into what lies ahead ;) Cheers

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I know it takes a lot longer for LSAT than ppl think (at least a year indicated in the course) But the reality for me is I only have about 2 months between now and October test day. Wait, this is not the worst part yet actually, what's even more frightening is that I have NO fundamentals whatsoever. Completely new bee whose first language is not even English (Chinese)

Seems like I got two options here only:

1 Completely butcher the exam in October and die in shame.

2 Kill myself now before that shame comes

Which one you guys vote for?

Any advise much appreciated

Thank you

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http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-30-section-2-question-20/

Hello guys, this MBT question actually comes from the MBT course video. Most people have the question about the last sentence "even its critics acknowledge." I have read all the replies in order to understand why there is tremendous public support, but I still don't understand. When JY explains this sentence, he dropped a period before "for the project", I don't know whether he indicated that "for the project" is not a modifier of "would be not tremendous public support", but rather of "even its critics acknowledge". Could someone kindly explain this? The grammar here is really hard.

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I have decided to go to law school after I graduate from my college. I started LSAT prep on May 22 for the October LSAT. I know it is hard to improve a lot with a short amount of time. I got 138 for the cold diagnostic test, and I am aiming for 157 October LSAT. The problem is that English is not my first language, and I am not good at reading comprehension. I took a prep test last week after studying for 6 weeks (just reviewing the materials in 7sage, not bible), and I got 150 with using about 50-55minutes per section. It was impossible to finish the test within 35 minutes per section. I am planning to take two PTs every week and review them, and I also going to read bibles. That is all I am planning to do right now. Do you guys think it is possible to get 157 on October LSAT? Is there any tips for studying Logical Reasoning section? Thank you!

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http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-22-section-4-question-12/

This was confusing! Adults in Country X consume an increasing amount of fat as they grow older, but the percentage of fat in their diet stays the same throughout adult life. Initially, I approached the answer choices thinking: "okay, this is answer going to disqualify a misconception on numbers and percentages" or something along those lines. However, I didn't find this to be the case. The answer is (B), and it says that they generally EAT MORE when they are older than they did in their earlier adult life. I can't help but think, "uh, we don't really know this, do we?" Yes, they might EAT MORE (meaning the quantity might be more), but what does that have to do with them maintaining the percentage of fat in their body? I mean it could technically have no effect, right? Help, please! :)

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Hi guys,

I've just made a new schedule for myself and I wanted your opinion on it. I've been studying for the LSAT for about a year and have already read the LSAT Trainer once and gone through the 7sage curriculum twice. Currently, I've gone through most PTs in the 30s and 40s. With the remaining time, I was planning on starting on PT 52 and doing two PTs a week, and doing up to three a week in September when I'm on my annual leave from work. This is my third and last attempt at taking the LSAT, so I thought it'd be a good idea to go through all of the remaining PTs and save the most recent for last. As I go along, I was planning on reviewing key issues and doing some drilling, as needed.

Do you guys think this is a good study schedule or do you think it would be more useful of my time to just take one PT a week and start with more recent ones? Thanks for sharing your thoughts/advice :)

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Been studying for a pretty long time now and I notice the same thing happening every time.

I'll drill a set of 25 LR questions for a specific question type, first timed (1.5-2min per question), and then BR afterwards. While doing these questions timed, I feel like everything is happening very quickly and it's tough for me to get a full grasp of the stimulus, especially for the harder questions. This results in a 21/25 timed score, with the wrong answers usually for questions that have complex stimuli. I'll then BR the questions without any sort of time limit afterwards and I usually go 24/25.

Now, it's really aggravating me because I just don't think my brain is quick enough to process all the key information from the stimulus. I just need more time to extract the relevant info from the complex stimulus---conclusion and premises--- before moving on to the answer choices. I don't think any type of practice will ever help to overcome this issue; my brain just works too slow. Does anyone else feel like they have a similar problem? I read a few weeks ago on TLS a post by some expert who said this very problem is what prevents most students from hitting 170+ on the real thing. This pissed me off because I know it's true. If there's just some way I can get my brain to work quicker...

Lastly, I just want to let you guys know that I've been drilling using the earlier exams. These are known to have wordy and complex stimuli so I'm hoping that when I take the later exams it will help alleviate some of the pressure. I did take a few LR sections from the early 50s and went 23/25 on bunch of them so I'm hoping this trend continues in the 60s and 70s. But this is not something I want to rely on. If anyone was in a similar position and found a way to overcome this issue I'd really appreciate any sort of advice.

And sorry for the crappy writing, it's 2am. Hope you understand what I'm saying. THANKS IN ADVANCE!

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Hey All,

Just working through some problem sets', and this particular question stumped me big time! Managed to successfully answer the other 4, but, this one gave me some trouble.

I parsed out a (P) + (C):

(P): Nobody wants the job more than Josh (but he doesn't want it)

(C): There will be no applicants (no matter how high salary)

From here, I couldn't really push out a flaw. Furthermore, I didn't see any opportunity to translate into lawgic/logic, to help clarify.

Knowing what the correct AC is and comparing it to the stimulus, it is definitely the most comparable. However, I was looking for a more detailed explanation of how to solve this question if possible.

Help? Thank you!

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http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-19-section-4-question-11/

For some reason I picke answer choice (D) in this question the first time around, during BR I knew that (D) was incorrect because it did not address the issue at all. and also the word "some" threw me off. I crossed out every answer choice except for (B) but I don't think I quite understand why. This math-y argument threw me off lol could somebody better explain this question to me? Thanks.

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For this question type, a part of the stimulus is in the question stem verbatim.

Do you, after reading the question stem, find/identify the accompanying part in the stimulus PRIOR to reading the stimulus from start to finish?

Or do you just make a mental note of that sentence and read normally without any prior identification?

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http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-23-section-2-question-14/

For a question stem like this are we strengthening Kim's argument or weakening Lee's? My initial thought was that it strengthens Kim's, but as it directly addresses something Lee says, I wanted to confirm.

Here's the stem: "Which one of the following, if true, provides the strongest defense of Kim's explanation against Lee's criticism?"

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Hello,

I started/purchased the 7Sage Starter on May 31, 2015. That was actually the first day I started studying for the LSAT (I haven't used any other materials, and I've gone through about 75% of the Core curriculum). In order to get into the law school I want to go to, I need to score around a 155 because my GPA is 3.66. Anything above a 155 would be icing on the cake. I have really been working on the logical reasoning, and I am comfortable with where I am with those. The timed tests I take show me only missing around 7 or 8 (I score a lot better without the time restraints). However, on the Logic Games (which I really just started focusing on in the last week and a half or so), it takes me 45 minutes to an hour to get through all of the questions in a section because I'm really slow at seeing the inferences. My improvement has come in that I'm now able to look at a game and immediately see what kind of game it is (85% of the time), what kind of board to draw, where the pieces fit in, etc. The first time I take a test, I miss around half of the questions, but again, it takes me 45 minutes to an hour to get through them. When I blind review, I can get that down -3 to -6.

My question is, with me being at 7 weeks of studying, does this sound on track? I am signed up to take the October LSAT. Do you have any tips or suggestions on how I can learn to make inferences quicker? Will that just come with practice? I'm spending 4 to 6 hours a day, 5 to 6 days a week studying.. so I'm committed and would love any suggestions anyone may have. Also, for the RC... I read really slow. Any advice on how to get faster? In a timed RC section, I only get through about half of the questions. On my first timed LSAT, which I took about a month ago to see where I was, I scored a pathetic 138. (When I don't have time restrictions, I can add about 20 points to that).

Thank you, in advance! I just gotta say... I'm so grateful I stumbled upon 7Sage. I'm quite certain it has saved my ass!!!!

(PS: I'm living on student loans, so I don't have the dough for a lot of extra stuff... so any suggestions you make about buying extra (like the LSAT Trainer vs. the Powerscore Bibles), please list them in most valuable to least).

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http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-33-section-3-question-08/

In JY's lecture, for the group 3 logical indicators such as "without", he mentions that we should negate any idea and make it as the sufficient condition. So for this question, I first negate "doing research of their own" and make it as a sufficient condition; that is, translate it into /R -most-> PISM, which was why I got wrong on this question.

But JY translate it into PISM -most-> /R. So I want to clarify whether this translation rule for logical indicators does not apply to "most" or "some" relationship.

Thanks!

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Hi fellow 7-Sagers,

Looking for some advice here; is process of elimination the best strategy for answering all types of RC questions? It seems like reading through all answer choices can be a real time sink, but I have been under the impression that POE is best most of the time on the test (apart from certain LG questions where you can hunt for the correct answer and/or move on right after you find it). Thoughts?

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I just started PT and I'm not able to complete the LR sections. That's not surprising to me at all. I figured that my speed would pick up as I take more PT. I generally only get to about question 15-16 before running out of time and guessing on the rest. Because I'm not finishing the sections my scores are shot. My BR for LR is roughly 19 and up. My BR score leads me to believe that there's still room for improvement with fundamentals. Of the questions that I do complete before time runs out, I only miss maybe 2-3 for both sections. So, my question for you guys, does it seem like I have an issue with just timing, or both timing and fundamentals? I know I'm spending too much time on questions, but I'm getting them right! LOL The questions at the beginning of the sections are typically easier questions though, so Idk if getting them right means too much (I mean every correct answer matters, but how does this mean is terms of fundamentals?). I've noticed certain question types that I need to review. Should I be spending less time on certain question types than others? Meaning I need more fundamental training? Ahhhh! I'm everywhere with this stuff! If you guys can sift through my mumbo jumbo and figure out what I'm trying to ask, any feedback is greatly appreciated.

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Wednesday, Jul 15, 2015

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New problem sets

I'm not sure if this has been asked somewhere already but will there be video explanations for the new problem sets? Or will there not be any? I know I can go to other websites to read explanations for LR and all but I really like the video explanations that JY provides us with.

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Thursday, Jul 16, 2015

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Grow-Again Confusion

Can anybody help me understand question 15 from PT9, S4 included in the Strengthening Questions Problem Set 8? I felt completely blindsided by how answer C (The rebate, if offered, would not attract purchasers who otherwise might not use Grow-Again) strengthens the connection between the premises and the conclusion. Am I reading this right?

P1: Five drops daily [of a treatment for reversing male hereditary baldness] is the recommended dose

P2: exceeding this quantity [of five drops daily] does not increase the product's effectiveness

SC: *Therefore,* offering a manufacturer's rebate will not increase sales

C: *consequently,* offering a rebate would not be profitable

My first bit of confusion was over how the author jumped from the quantity and effectiveness of the dosage to a rebate increasing (or failing to increase) sales. Are we supposed to assume that had an increase in the dosage improved its effectiveness, then a rebate would have increased the sales? If not, what's the link between A (the premises) and B (the sub conclusion)?

My second area of puzzlement was over how the correct answer (according to the breakdown at the bottom of the Problem Set), which talks about purchasers who otherwise wouldn't use Grow-Again relates to a discussion of dosages, effectiveness, and profitability of rebates. Are the purchasers we're talking about men suffering from hereditary baldness who have chosen other products (in which case perhaps improving the effectiveness, or at least the perception of the effectiveness, might make a rebate more profitable)? Or are we talking about men who aren't suffering from hereditary baldness or women or cute bald babies or pink flamingoes who, obviously, would have no interest in the product to begin with, regardless of any sort of manufacturer's rebate?

In any case, what does any of this have to do with the information given as the premises? Strengthening questions are supposed to beef up the link between the premises and the conclusion, right? So shouldn't a correct answer for a strengthening question have *something* to do with both items? I was so confused by the stimulus to begin with that I chose answer D (Grow-Again is a product whose per-unit manufacturing cost does not fall significantly when the product is produced in large quantities) because it was the only thing I saw that seemed to give some sort of connection (albeit very, very tenuous) between the information about the quantity of the product mentioned in the premises and the cost/profitability mentioned in the sub-conclusion and conclusion.

Help!

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So I just registered and paid my fees for the October test! I'm active duty military stationed in Okinawa. Any other 7Sagers out in Okinawa looking to take the test? One concern I had was whether or not different weight was given to test location. I'll be taking the test on base with a DoD proctor. Anyone have experience with how nonpublished test centers are viewed by schools or if they even know where you took the test? I called ASU which is where I'm hoping to attend. They said they'd never been asked that question so perhaps that isn't revealed...

Thanks :)

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Wednesday, Jul 15, 2015

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Study Methods

Hey there!

So I am gearing up for the October 2015 LSAT. I am taking the Kaplan Self-Paced course, which is pretty awesome. It has tons of resources and is super customizable. I also have the LSAT Trainer by Mike Kim, however I am finding myself with not much time to go through that, especially because I am interning full time. I really would ideally like to score a 160+, would it be okay if I back off on the Trainer and focus more on the Kaplan course, or should I make more of an effort to make time for both? I'm already really strapped for time and I just want to be as efficient as possible. Oh! And has anyone taken the Kaplan Self-Paced course/have any opinions on it or tips??? Thanks!

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