Noticed I have been getting Authorās Perspective-Implied questions wrong the most . Any tips on how to get better at these RC Qs?
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@PhoebeHopp got it thank you Phoebe! Similar to LR, some ACs might be too Strong to be supported etc
@Kevin_Lin very helpful, thank you! Iāll start using the if not trick, itās much more straightforward
Hey yall Iām trying make sure Iām understanding how to diagram when these words Unless/Except/Until/Without come up in conditional sentences.
āUnless your GPA stays at 3.5+, you donāt keep the scholarshipā
I have learned to cancel out the unless and donāt as two negatives and get:
If gpa stays at 3.5+, then you keep scholarship ā¦.
But I did the 7sage lsats game and itās telling me I got this conditional wrongā¦.
My theory is Iām missing a step here of then making what follows the unless the necessary condition so:
First cancel donāt and unless
Then make what follows the unless the necessary so Iād get:
If you keep scholarship then gpa stays at 3.5+
Is what is above the correct way to diagram the original statement in quotations? Thank you
@lagata just realized explanation for AC C is below the explanation for ac B and if someone isnāt paying attention, it can confuse them
FYI 7sage answer choice C doesnāt have an explanation (just putting it on the radar not pressed)
Through POE I got this question right but can someone explain why AC C weakensā¦just because insiders think the play is unexciting doesnāt mean the audiences will agree with the insiders⦠why is this a reasonable jump or assumption according to the lsat?
I understand AC D was the better /correct AC bc we donāt know enough information about Zieglerās other works to determine whether or not this play will be a success⦠for example if we knew that his other works werent successful then maybe it would weaken but because we simply donāt know enough about his other works than this answer choice has no effect on the argument.
Still though answer choice C, why is it reasonable to assume or make that jump I stated above?
Why I think some ACs are wrong:
AC Aā the argument literally says irrelevant of the rebellious art being beautiful, itās not covered by euro theory⦠so clearly beauty of the rebels art isnāt central to the argument. The beauty of the old euro art isnāt mentioned in the argument, so it must also not be a central assumption to the argument.
AC B explanation is that it literally contradicts the stimulus because the stimulus says the rebels self consciously defied the earlier notions of European theory⦠so they literally were guided by their knowledge of early euro theory , and AC B says they werenāt guided, thus contradicting the stimulus, so it canāt be descriptively accurate and thus cannot be a flaw in the argument
Iām gonna sound like one of the instructors saying this(for the sake of peace Iām not saying who) but for AC Cā please tell me you can see why itās BS, clear out of scope of the argument
AC Dā the stimulus says euro theory encompasses all art until 1960s ⦠the stimulus never says ONLY the 1960s werenāt covered by euro theory⦠what this means is afterwards of 1960s⦠1970s, 1980s, 1990s these artists works couldnāt be covered by euro theory. clearly, the argument assumes contrary to ac Dā art besides from the 1960s isnāt covered by euro theory
AC Eā is correct because notice the shift in language in the stimulus from euro aesthetic theory premises to a conclusion that is about āno aesthetic theory is completeā which translate to the conclusion being about all aesthetic theory ⦠why would premises about one aesthetic theory support a conclusion about all aesthetic theories!?? AC E captures this by saying essentially does euro aesthetic theory cover all aesthetic theories??!!
@JessOk yes good point! I use music when on the train bc thereās a lot going on
@SerinJ thank you! Yes good point, sometimes music is a good way to stay motivated when I feel like Iām starting to crack a bit from the constant grind
The goal of this comment is to ensure I am understanding correctly why the correct answer is correct by correctly identifying what the flaw is here.
For me, the argument says āan example of knowing history is reading history books)
= RH(reading history)ā> KH (and ofc we know KHā>II)
I structurally thought of the argument this way:
KH(know history)ā> II (impress intellectuals)
then we are told a way to trigger KH is to read the history books(but ofc, since reading books is only AN EXAMPLE, there are other ways to trigger KH)
The next premise says /RHā>/KH (here is the mistaken negation)
Then canāt II is conclusion (again mistaken negation)
what the conclusion should have said is:
/IIā> /KH
What the author assumes is that the negation of this canāt happen(right?):
=
Sā>/N
Aka the sufficiency can happened without that necessary condition in this case one can impress intellectuals despite not being able to read history books
=
IIā> another N
And the correct answer choices alludes to this by saying there are other necessary conditions for impressing intellectuals
Please a tutor confirm if this is correct thinking for this question (sometimes my ask a tutor button doesnāt work)
Hey! Can anyone find a Question Example Or a few question examples exemplifying this flaw: your argument fails, so my argument winsā the flaw is bc one conclusion fails the opposite conclusion must be true ⦠trying to recall a question Iāve done with that flaw canāt remember one
@blueberry thank you! I have been listening to my Spotify playlist(bit distracting tho) but back when I first started studying I listened to lofi no lyrics (will go back to this).
I think I have to try listening to lofi again and see how my performance goes
Normally, I donāt study with music, but I have decided to try it. While on the train studying, I listen to music. I know to not listen to music while doing timed practice tests or timed sections. What about music while doing untimed drills? Music while doing timed drills? What about music when reading/reviewing foundationals?
Music seems to improve my focus by helping me somewhat better zone out . But I donāt want to depend on it/bad crutch habit that then affects me when I donāt have the music during PTs/sections.
Someone in the LSAT community did bring up a good point that music could be there as I build good logical thinking and by the time I rip away the music I would have these good logical habits so the lack of music wouldnāt affect me.
Thoughts on music while studying and when I should and shouldnāt listen?
environmentally vulnerable organisms= these organisms live in an ecosystem under environmental stress... is this the assumption/jump we are supposed to make? high scorers(high 170s), how did you learn what assumptions or jumps are ok to make to get to the correct AC and which assumptions are not ok to get the correct AC? is it also about the correct AC requiring less jumps/assumptions versus the other ACs?
Hey yall!
Last PT a few (?) weeks ago I used the new LSAC interface and I had so many technical issues, I crashed out and ended up taking another PT on 7sage.
Has LSAC fixed the issues with their new interface yet? Asking yall who have been taking PTs recently. If nah, then should I stick to using the new interface and do my PT on 7sage?
I really donāt want to redo a PT/donāt want to have the same issues as last time(it was frustrating tbh)
JYPing if you see this, can you please add an option on 7sage PTs where one can modify how long their breaks are between sections (not everyone has the fixed 2 mins between sections)
Go Knicks, NYC is lit rn we made history last W this hard was in the 70s yall šš„š„
Idk why the ask a tutor is not working (sometimes I click and it doesnāt work). May someone please answer me who is a tutor? Iād like to clarify if my way of thinking about why D is correct is a helpful way of thinking on MSS math questions: the stimulus talks about the superset of bands having the number of band members decrease , then they talk about the number of professional musicians increase⦠D seemed wrong to me at first because bands and professional musicians seemed like two different supersets (because why should I assume the bands Im mentioned in the stimulus are necessarily professional bands?? Thatās why I thought D didnt apply to the stimulus at first, hence was unsupported)ā¦.then I thought more and realized within the superset bands is the subset of professional bands⦠so whatever affects the superset of bands must affect the subset of professional bands , hence there was a decrease in musicians in the professional bands(this may be getting into the weeds here but can I make the assumption every Musician in the professional band is a professional musician without committing the whole to part flaw? Is there less tight knit logic thus more leeway allowed with MSS questions?) This decrease combined with an increase in the number of professional musicians means there may be more professional bands. Thank you for confirming and answering my questions!
@NRamen thank you so much! Didnt know about the blind review settings so about to modify that :)
congrats! Questions pleasešš¼: do you think blind review is worth it/has helped you reach where you are right now? How do you go about blind reviewā do you review the whole exam or do you find ways to review the questions you felt were hard for you? I am willing to review the whole exam if thatās what it takes, I do have limited time to study every week so Iād like to know if itās a worthwhile time investment. Thank you!
Am I wrong or A does have a flaw(mistaken negation) itās simply not the same flaw as the stimulus?