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Proctors: The proctors were OK. They provided clear instruction and followed all directions. I sat in front, which was distracting because they seemed to walk in front of my desk A LOT.

Facilities: There were bathrooms near the lecture halls. The door to the lecture hall opens to the outside, like many do in Hawaii.

What kind of room: Large lecture hall, but in the business school and not new. Stadium seating, each hard plastic seat with its own small fold out desk. The stadium seating was angled at a way that made the room very tall like a movie theater. The lighting was a little low which made it straining to read. The room DID have A/C. This was a concern of mine, but the temperature was not a problem for me.

How many in the room: Over 50-75. Pretty much a full room, but at least one desk between testers.

Desks: Bad. These were the little flip desks. Your test booklet had to be folded at all times, and the answer sheet had to overlap the test booklet just to keep everything organized and on the desk. They put at least one seat between testers.

Left-handed accommodation: The desks flipped from the right side. I'm right handed, so I don't remember if they accommodated left handed testers. I do remember one tester sitting in the front at his own desk. I found this unfair since he had a lot of desk space and the rest of us had so little.

Noise levels: There was not noise dampening in the old lecture hall. It was what I expected at the time, but now that I've tested elsewhere, I know that it was higher than it should be. I tested at a law school in Seattle and I literally heard no noise from anyone but myself.

Parking: I purchased a 4 hour parking pass in the visitor lot, and went over time. They gave me a fine even though the lot was empty. I was pissed about this, but wasn't sure where else to park.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: I don't remember exactly, but perhaps an hour between check and the start of the test.

Irregularities or mishaps: No mishaps, but really crappy desks and bad lighting.

Other comments: If they hold tests at the U of H law school, I recommend going to that location instead. If I were to test while in Hawaii, I'd make sure the test center is better or I'd fly for the weekend to the west coast.

Would you take the test here again? Absolutely NOT. Taking the test at the U of H business school is not an option if you are serious about the LSAT. Bad desks, bad lighting, bad parking choices. Hopefully they have changed the location since 2014.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: June 2014

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Proctors: For the most part, the proctors seemed like they knew what was going on. I had no issues with them. They chatted before and during breaks, but were not distracting during the test. They walked around a little bit, but not irritatingly so. They were clearly students, but I'm not sure if law students or not.

Facilities: There were bathrooms just outside the lecture halls/test rooms. For the males, the bathrooms were busy on break, but I could get in and out pretty quick. Just outside the building there is a Starbucks that wasn't too busy and with a bathroom too.

What kind of room: It was what I've noticed to be the modern law school setup. It was a lecture hall with continuous desk/table layout divided into three sections. Perfect lighting, and even better, the desk space was amazing! You could have everything laid out with plenty of space. Each row was on its own level, and all levels were separated by one step.

How many in the room: About 60, with the room about 70% full. Was not cramped at all.

Desks: The desks were lecture hall styled continuous running desks. So everyone in the same row is pretty much on the same desk as it runs across the hall. The middle section had as many as 5 or 6, while the side sections had a max of 2.

Left-handed accommodation: With continuous desks, I don't see this as an issue.

Noise levels: Very low, I didn't even hear anyone else turn their text book pages. Seemed really odd to me how quiet it was.

Parking: I think there was free street parking by the school, but it was early and I didn't trust the street sign. I opted to park in the Seattle University visitor lot which costs $6.00 for 12 hours on the weekend. The visitor lot is just a 2 minute walk from the law school building.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: LSAC said check in by 8:30, but the proctors didn't start checking in people until 8:30. By the time they processed all the testers and sent them to their respective lecture halls to start the test, it was around 9:30.

Irregularities or mishaps: None.

Other comments: The proctors sat the testers front to back as they checked in. If you want to sit in front, get in line early. If you want to sit in back, get in the back part of the line.

Would you take the test here again? Yes, absolutely. It really was about perfect. If I were to change anything, I'd show up at 8:30. I showed up at 8:00 and had to wait until almost 9:00 just to get a seat.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: 06 FEB 2016

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Thursday, Feb 25 2016

@pdunlavey807 The GMAT appears to be a more suitable replacement than the GRE..

Assuming they want to differentiate the high scorers, I don't think the GMAT would work. For example, I scored 90+ percentile on the GMAT but scored high 150s on the LSAT. I wouldn't mind a law school accepting my GMAT score in lieu of the LSAT, but that probably wouldn't go over too well with the 170+ crowd.

Still, the comparison is interesting because the GMAT's Critical Reasoning questions are very similar to the LSAT's LR questions, albeit easier.

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Friday, Feb 05 2016

Answer B focuses on the incorrect group of children. The stimulus focuses only on the children who successfully completed the chess program, while B focuses on those that started but not completed the program.

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Friday, Feb 05 2016

Nope, nope, nope. Abort. Skipping this one...

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Friday, Feb 05 2016

The key to D is remembering "Not All A's are B's" is the same as "A ←s→ /B.

POE works too...

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Monday, Feb 01 2016

Um yeah. I get the feeling that LSAT writers like to inflict pain on people.

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Monday, Feb 01 2016

Does the phrase “one’s sense of approval of one’s character and projects” mean their approval of themselves?

As I read it, yes. I read "one's character" as "one's own character."

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Monday, Feb 01 2016

How often are these circular reasoning questions now? I've done a couple of the 70's now and don't recall seeing one besides this.

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Monday, Feb 01 2016

Stimulus: Your art can offer someone 10 aesthetic fulfillment points. But people don't need your aesthetic fulfillment points because they can max out on the world's best art (over in France). Just give it up!

E) Your art would be worth 10 aesthetic fulfillment points, but because the Mona Lisa exists, its only worth 5 points. Sorry!

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Saturday, Jan 30 2016

"some people in the general population are dumb."

I certainly felt dumb reading this RC passage. If it had been earlier in the set, it would have brought my RC score down more.

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Saturday, Jan 30 2016

I skipped it and I'm glad I did.

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Wednesday, Jan 27 2016

I got this wrong, but isn't too bad if you can simplify the stimulus.

Stimulus: If published, its through an agent, requested, or by a renown author.

E. If published, but not through an agent or by request, is by a renown author.

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Wednesday, Jan 27 2016

I chose D during the test and B during BR. In the stimulus it says that the poetry transmits the values through non-explicit means, but it is not explicitly said in D that heroic figures/role models embody those values. During the BR, I just couldn't find an error in B. I'm not sure why I eliminated it the first time.

I think this issue can be overcome through careful reading.

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Monday, Jan 25 2016

I think the key here is finding the flaw before checking the answers. I got this wrong timed, but BR'd correctly pretty easily once I understood the stimulus better.

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Monday, Jan 25 2016

B attacked the biggest weakness (suff/nec flaw) in the argument, but E gave me second thoughts. Mainly because E attacks the assumption in the argument that there is water on Europa, when the data only strongly suggests it is so.

For answer A, the second part just doesn't directly address the stimulus' argument.

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Sunday, Jan 24 2016

"Special obligation" does seem wrong at first look, but I'm not sure it made sense to dismiss D immediately when C has "intended purpose" which is not supported in the stimulus either.

"Most people don’t eat peaches, but kids eat a TON of peaches."

As mentioned in the stimulus, kids are a subset of the people who eat much more than the national average. Answer D specifically addresses kids but not the rest of the "others" in line 5. I think this is a better reason to eliminate D and choose C which does address this larger group.

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Monday, Jan 18 2016

Thanks for replying. Your explanation helped me look at just David's argument and not make assumptions about what he was trying to say.

“It is not explicitly stated nor common sense that taking time off from teaching will allow someone to improve in teaching,”

I think I meant: “It is not explicitly stated nor common sense that taking a leave of absence to do research has any more benefit than doing both research and teaching concurrently.”

This is where I went wrong.

I incorrectly make assumption about what D was saying. I read D's statement incorrectly as, "why should our limited resources be devoted to supporting professors taking time off from teaching, when they can do research and teach at the same time?" In essence, why can't the professors teach, do research, and get the benefits of research at the same time? In this case, his argument would not be ignoring C's points, and instead pointing to the flaw in her argument.

I made a relatively straightforward question into a harder one. Thanks for the help!

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Sunday, Jan 17 2016

This one really frustrates me. The first sentence says professors should be given paid leaves of absence for research purposes, but at no time does it say that leave of absences are necessary for research. Why can't research be done without taking leaves of absence from teaching?

This is why the flaw in David's question doesn't seem like a flaw to me. David is essentially, but not explicitly, asking why professors need leaves of absence to do research when they can do research and teach at the same time.

It is entirely plausible to me that he can acknowledge both of research's two benefits (human knowledge, teaching), but still ask why the teachers need absences to do so. You can improve teaching while teaching! It is not explicitly stated nor common sense that taking time off from teaching will allow someone to improve in teaching.

I'd appreciate if someone could talk me off the ledge before I fall into the LSAT cavern of doom. Thanks :)

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Friday, Jan 15 2016

The argument gap here is between vitamin C's correlation with "lower heart disease" and the conclusion's "healthier than average" claim. It doesn't consider that someone may have lower risk of heart disease but still be less healthy than average.

Answer D exploits this gap with infectious disease. Vitamin C reduces heart disease, but increases likelihood of infectious disease. This would likely not make a person healthier than average. Argument weakened.

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Friday, Jan 15 2016

On being old:

Going into school with an assumption that 23 year olds are immature just reinforces the mentality that a divide exists in the first place. I'm 33 and plan to associate with other friendly people, whether 22 or 90 years old. I've worked a lot with younger people professionally, and aside from the occasional but innocent "you're old" joke, its actually quite fun to be around.

On my post undergrad period:

I will include my 10+ years on my resume, and my PS story will originate from those years. I see those years as nothing but a positive on my application.

On aspiring to be a lawyer:

Being a lawyer certainly wasn't an aspiration until a couple years ago and I don't make any apologies about it. My change of direction will be alluded to in my PS. But like David said, I will try to show it instead of saying it explicitly.

Good luck everyone!

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Friday, Jan 15 2016

"Answer B is immediately irrelevant...which is...if you read it correctly."

Sigh....

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Thursday, Jan 14 2016

I lost my mind in this stimulus. What I should have done is focus on Glen's last sentence, because it is clear that is the conclusion. Sara refers directly to it by saying "but such a role" and disputes it. They disagree about "Law's primary role should be to create virtuous citizens." E is clearly the answer if you see it this way.

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Thursday, Jan 14 2016

B: Prediction of business success isn't really relevant to the relationship between overconfidence and starting a business.

E: Business acumen? Again, that is not really relevant to the relationship between overconfidence and starting a business.

D Took me 2 minutes, but this is really the only option here. It provides evidence that the conclusion is correct.

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Thursday, Jan 14 2016

“help residents of rural areas gain access to electricity.”

This can be assumed to mean:

“help SOME (1-100) residents of rural areas gain access to electricity.”

It cannot be assumed to mean:

“help ALL residents of rural areas gain access to electricity.”

So you can't logically conclude the subsidy has failed, since according to the sentence above, it only needed to provide electricity to at least one more rural resident.

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