Another interesting thing: I took the Sept exam in Rome and the watercolor/oil setup really resembled one I had then (I had two), about Ghana and other countries. I wouldn't think they'd recycle an idea that fast, but who knows!

I don't remember anything about companies blaming until their was algae on LR. I thought the Corporations trading buildings game was super tough. Didn't even get through it. Luckily it was my last game and I just bubbled. Anyone else draw a blank?

I wasn't going to submit any from professors, but the two I got and was planning on using were from the managing attorney and director of administration at the law firm I have worked at for 6 years, saying they would hire me as an attorney in a heartbeat and that they'd love for me to go back and work for them post-law. Is this a big mistake? I didn't keep in touch with any of my undergrad professors and was abroad for my entire junior year. Senior year I worked with some good professors, but just didn't make a point to form a relationship with them beyond the classroom (should have, but can't go back now).

I thought my LORs were strong - anyone have input on this?

I'd definitely take the most recent tests and review them thoroughly before your Dec exam. I didn't do many of the 70s, because of time and because I was PTing so well in the 60s, but I definitely think that was a bad idea. The material seemed different and the language more complex. I'll be taking again in December and focusing a lot on 71-78

@yhchoi1687448 I'm in the same boat! Took it in Europe. I thought I had done way better, but remember having a whole section I had to erase on. That said, my score was below yours and would be more worth paying for. Still a tough call. Good luck!

@kylereinhard6 and @4474 I totally feel you. I got a 160, and average 168-172 on my PT. Got 172-176 on the PTs in the 60s. Have been studying for 8 months. Test anxiety? I guess. First time I took it I definitely had anxiety. This time didn't seem so bad, but I took an undisclosed version from Europe and can't even confirm that it wasn't a bubbling mistake! I knew I wouldn't see the test, but I thought I'd get to see what sections I got wrong at least. Geez. 160 gets me in easy to safety schools (I have a pretty solid GPA and good softs), but more than anything, I'm just surprised with this even happening...

Even though I wish everyone could do as well as they hope, it is comforting to know that it isn't happening to only me...

@solkahlerrios847 I'm thinking about doing this (applying now, supplementing for finances later). I have 3.9 GPA from top 30 school, but seem to struggle with the LSAT on test day. I practice at 168-174, but got160 twice on test day. I think its nerves... I'm surprised, really. Doesn't make sense, but anyways, I'm in the same boat, of wanting to know if I should take again. If you're not looking for T14 and have a good resume, etc. I'd say apply and supplement later, for scholarships. I think others would disagree in saying you should wait until you get your ideal LSAT, but I don't see the harm in applying now if you're already within a good GPA/LSAT range for your ideal schools.

@476.rizeq Makes sense to me. He passed suddenly two days after the exam. Could definitely be a reason for the delay.

@deanval635 PS admitted doesn't mean enrolled with the school....

@deanval635 and @deanval635 - In case you are wondering, I received confirmation from the school that they will in fact reimburse both LSAT and CAS. Definitely a good reason to apply. You can make all admission decisions after!

@deanval635, @stepharizona288 Have either of you done this? I am considering writing them now as their website does still list this as a benefit, but I am hesitant about them then being overly aggressive post-request. Seems almost too good.

Are many of you applying for the December LSAT before the Oct 18 deadline, despite not knowing your score until, perhaps, the 20th? I'd love to not take it again if my score is good enough, but the registration deadline gets me worked up. I know they offer a refund, but I'm curious about what the rest of you are doing...

Did anyone take it in Europe? Any idea which was the LG experimental?

@jhaldy10325 oh ok, I didn't know! Thanks for clarifying!

I'll be attending - my first! I want to listen in on the RC part in particular, I found two of them to be extremely hard. Any idea if that will be earlier or later in the meeting?

I've dealt with bouts of insomnia for the past year and I'm envious of your 30 minutes to fall asleep... mine is often 3-4 hours. Stress and anxiety play a huge factor in insomnia, and insomnia conversely plays a huge factor in anxiety. It affected my testing in June when I wasn't able to sleep for two full days.

Anyways, what has worked for me throughout the past 6 months (minus the freak out in June) is a total reshape of my diet and a consistent meditation routine, in additional to frequent exercise. When I say a reshape of diet, I mean cutting out all junk food and adding in the much needed greens and natural foods we all too often forget are vital to our health. Get rid of the refined sugar and the processed food. Make sure to get all your vitamins. I started taking a few natural supplements as well.

The more pressure you put on yourself about the test, the worse it will be. It is important to prepare and to study, but to realize that it is only a test. I started taking that approach and realized that I score way better without the pressure. My advice to you would be to stop pushing back the test and to just go for it. Be OK with taking a sleeping pill the night before, but recognize that the insomnia is likely a result of something else (stress, vitamin deficiency, poor diet, poor sleeping habits, sleep anxiety, depression, etc.)

Best of luck. I know what it feels like.

@mes08820 Yeah, it'll be frustrating for me to not be able to review the test if I do take it abroad, but I guess understand why they do it. Thanks for your input!

@stepharizona288 The testing location in Rome is the Istituto Mater Dolorosa at Via Alessandro Torlonia, 14, 00161 Roma, Italy. Looks like a preschool (?). If you find who took it in Rome, can you ask if it is the same location?

Thanks!

@cmelman95659 es, but two per year

@476

haha.

I thought it was 3 takes within 2 years, regardless of if you take them all within the same year or not. Am I mistaken?

@mes08820 Thanks so much for your input. What would you say is different? Wording? Material? Difficulty?

Great advice, all! - thanks!

@476 Thanks for your input! I totally believe you that the 7sage is a better program for a better price. Plus, it comes with a sense of community. It's not that I don't think the Ultimate would be beneficial - I just don't how much more so it will be than some of the others, since I think a lot of my poor performance on the last exam was lack of prep not on the material side, but more on the self-discipline side and the psychological readiness, if that makes any sense.

Depends on their condition. If you have a bunch of practice tests that aren't actually written on, I think they'd sell easily. I'd even been interested in any newer tests that aren't all written up!