Hi I got the correct answer A, but only through the process of elimination. I am slightly bothered by the AC's somewhat extreme tone, "best."

Can I say that it is justified because the supporting textual evidence (line 10-11) says "preferred?"

I am just wondering in general: when is the extreme tone in the RC inference AC justified, and when is it not?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-41-section-4-passage-2-passage/

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-41-section-4-passage-2-questions/

So I fell for a sufficient assumption trap, I chose the answer that was basically a restated premise, so for the assumption questions, the answer that is basically a premise, is that always wrong? TYA!

I've studied for the LSAT before, but I've never PT'd with logic games that are only on one page. How do you deal with this?

Is there any sort of historical data somewhere that displays the likelihood of certain logic games appearing by type?

Hey all,

I've noticed that every now and then I will see an argument that doesn't seem to have any glaring flaws, if any at all. Sure enough, it's a principle question in the range of 17-23...so I know I better be hyper-alert because this is going to be tricky. I proceed to read through the answer choices and immediately throw away 2 of them because they are completely irrelevant. Now, to the nitty gritty :

Example: "...therefore, that ought not be done for it is both immoral and would cause more harm than good."

The correct answer would be something like "Anything that goes against common moral belief and does not help society but instead damages society ought not be done." Obviously, this happens to be an assumption as well.

BUT, among the answer choices one will find something along the lines of "anything immoral ought not be done" and "Actions that cause more harm than good are immoral." Both are attractive for their own reasons since the first seems to be reasonably supported by the conclusion, but not SO much as the conclusion mentions two criteria and the second combines the two elements of the conclusion but in reality is not supported by the conclusion.

All of this said, I think that I've identified a pattern here with principle questions and I'm looking for some validation. When answering a principle question, one must look for (and find) and exact match to the information discussed in the stimulus. There will be answer choices that maybe fall "inside the realm" of the stimulus but they are not an exact match that would validate the conclusion.

Thanks in advance!

Hey guys,

I plan on taking the LSAT in September and I want to focus on just logic games for about 3-4 weeks (as long as it takes to get to a near perfect score really). I took it back in December and the only thing that brought my score down was LG - so before I get back to PTing and targeting certain questions, I want to do LG

Right now I'm doing every LG section from PT 1-20 - two sections a day. Really trying to master it. My question is is my time better spent doing LG sections from PTs 40-60 instead?. Everyone knows that we should prioritize the modern PTs, and I want to get the most bang for my buck. So should I hop straight to those?

Thanks

I chose C because it is weakening the argument which is saying that people are more concerned about their finances than politics and C says that they are JUST AS concerned about their finances and politics thus weakening the argument and I thought E was incorrect because 1) it is bringing outside information that wasn't mentioned in the stimulus and 2) it says that they are concerned with politics and their finances but it doesn't say to what degree. I mean the conclusion is saying that they are concerned about their politics but the degree of concern is different.

Can someone explain this to me? Thank you!!!!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-35-section-1-question-15/

Hey everyone,

I want to get feedback and see if there is an interest out their in studying LR but with a focus on strategies that increase your understanding beyond just that PT and question.

Instead of the traditional method where we are just just blind reviewing and trying to understand the question in front of us, we will be focusing on identifying patterns behind each argument so we can carry what we learned over to other LR stimulus in future PT's.

A lot of speed in LR comes from our ability to quickly spot these patterns that are constantly repeating. These patterns are not about learning question types - the core curriculum does a phenomenal job of that - but more about argument types.

So yeah, let me know what you guys think and if you are interested. : )

Update:

I am going to let all of you decide what PT series you would like to use to study these patterns.

PT 30-39:

Pros: These are basically drill materials PT's and are considered ideal for burning in order to study. Even the very beginners can join this.

Con: These are older PT's and hence a little less relevant than 40 series. We have also seen a lot of these questions as part of our core curriculum.

PT 40-49

Pros: They are a bit more relevant though I think there is not that much difference as the logic has not changed much from PT 1. I think it's fine to burn these for drills as well since we still have 46 plus fresh PT's left after these.

Cons: Some people still like to use them as fresh PT's.

PT 50-59:

I had a private request for this but since I cannot edit the poll if this series is your preference you can just write this down as a comment below and I would count it in the poll.

So I finished University back in 2012. I doubt any of my professors remember me, and even if they were able and willing, they couldn't give an honest account of me. I finished my Masters back in 2016, I have a Professor who says she'll write me a letter of recommendation, and she does remember me. I'm afraid her letter won't mean much because it doesn't seem anything that isn't your bachelors really matters? What should I do? I know I could get 2 letters of Reccomendation from my Masters program but I'm scared it won't be worth anything.

Thank you guys for your insight

Hey guys! I pushed back my test from June to September because my job had become a little more demanding for me this past spring (we slow down over the summer). I would love to stay in the Philadelphia area and would also love to go to Temple. I'm aiming for a 160 on my LSAT but my diagnostics and my past two preptests have been in the 140s, BRing in the 150s. LR seems to be the hardest for me so I decided to get the LSAT Trainer and work through Mike Kim's LR drills. TIP: If anyone finds that LR is also hard for them, I think Kim's explanations and drills are EXTREMELY helpful. I'm super excited to get started on the September BR calls. I think I'll really be able to up my score by having a core schedule each week. I've been finding it difficult to get on that train with ya know... life.

Anyways, I was wondering if my stats looked good for a school like Temple or above that and/or if any female URM has had the same stats as me and where they have gotten accepted into.

-URM female (black and puerto-rican)

GPA: 3.67

LSAT- Aiming for the 160s

Major: Political Science and Spanish

Work Experience- I've only been out of school for two years but I've worked 5 years in PA politics and now currently work for a Global Investigations company- between the two of these career paths I'll have great LR's (DOJ attorneys, WH advisors (former, def not current haha), various agencies, and a PA inspector general).

I'm hoping with all of this combined it will give me a really good shot at some schools! What do you guys think?

It's not that I don't understand the questions or that I can't get the correct answer; I can. I'm just really slow. For example, I find that for LR and RC sections I have to read the stimulus twice before I can select the correct answer because I don't understand what it says the first time. So, I spend at least 1min per LR question. Is there any way for me to improve my reading comp so I'm not so slow?

Hello everyone,

I am a complete novice to this journey. I recently started visiting law schools and was told a strong LSAT can curb my low undergrad GPA. (I graduated in 2013, my professional experience will be important in my application)

Can someone explain some of the words, abbreviations or acronyms I see related to taking practice tests.

What is a "blind review"? Are there other types of reviews you can do?

I have scheduled my self for my diagnostic test June 3 , any tips? Did you use an app to time yourself during the test? Is it best I I take the test at home? Or in a library to mimic test conditions?

Thank you all in advance!

Hello everyone!

This may be a really silly question, but does anyone know if when we sit to take the actual LSAT if it is printed double or single sided? I have been studying using single sided PTs since I think it's helpful for the logic games/reading comprehension to be able to see everything without flipping the page over constantly. But it would be nice to know what it will actually be like on the LSAT so I can study in the most realistic way possible.

Thank you all :)

Hi,

I have seen a couple threads regarding how people get ready before a test but I was hoping to get some more opinions. The June 2017 test is a noon test so does anyone prepare differently or have suggestions on how to prep/warm up for a noon test? Also, what do people normally do a week before their test?

Thinking about asking past bosses who are now pretty high up in tech and entertainment (Apple, Production Company Owner, Best-Selling Author who was my former editor). These are two fields I'm interested in working in with copyright and IP, but I realize this won't be enough.

I need some academic letters and I'm coming up short on where I might find one, since I've been out of school for 10 years now and didn't form any relationships with my professors. The one exception is an advertising professor in the Communications department. Other than that, I don't really anyone in academia except for my ex and I'm definitely not going down that road.

Only other option I can think of is that I was employed in a workstudy program for 3 years and worked under a couple different Deans (engineering and biochemistry), both of whom I presume hold me in high esteem. But again, I haven't talked to these people in years.

Are these options even worth a shot? Or should I just find some people to pay off?

Hi,

I was wondering, would I be permitted (legally) to share with others pdf copies of preptests I've already bought? Reason being is I'd like to get the more recent PTs but I don't want to pay the $7+ per test. I have every PT from 1 to 77 in pdf format and I was wondering if it would be legally permissible to simply exchange PDFs of tests with others instead of having to buy them ourselves.

Admin edit: Sharing/selling/buying PDFs is against LSAC's TOS, now that they're banned.

Ramadan starts this weekend, and I thought I would make a discussion post for those observing it this year. As much as I love this month, I am bit worried about how I will be able to manage fasting, studying, Taraweeh (night prayer), and Suhoor (pre-dawn meal), or even just the first two. Fasting time is 19 hours where I am.

Regardless of how you practice Ramadan, or the various commitments you have going on, or the fact that we may be at different stages on our LSAT journey, I would still love to hear about the tips and strategies that you use or plan to use during this month. Even a rough outline of your study schedule might help me or someone else browsing through. As of now, I am just going to dive into the first few days and see what works and what doesn't.

Thanks!

hi, can someone explain why answer choice e isnt a match? I'm still not 100% sure after BRing and watching the explination vid.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-54-section-2-question-21/

Finishing the curriculum is an enormous accomplishment and you should be proud of yourself when you reach that milestone. But it can quickly start to feel a lot like this:

https://media4.giphy.com/media/L6EoLS78pcBag/200.gif#2

The curriculum provides step by step instruction, not only on the foundational concepts that must be mastered to beat the LSAT, but also on knowing exactly what to be doing in order to progress through your studies. Now that you're done, you're going to have to determine that for yourself, and how well you do that is enormously consequential. It is different for everyone, so this will not be ABC instructions to what to do after the curriculum. Rather, I hope it can serve as a guide for identifying the most effective study strategies for yourself based on your individual level and performance.

So I'm done with the curriculum. Now what?

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A couple of week out from the June 2017 LSAT and FLAW type LR questions are still plaguing me. If you were to spend 2-3 days just handling FLAW with a series of focused drills, what would you do?

Thanks!!!

So i am just finishing the CC and i am gonna start applying all the methods for LG's that we learnt. I was wondering what the best methods for drilling would be. I would really appreciate any suggestions.

I have completed fool proofing PTs 1-35. I'm now 11 preptests into my PT phase. Getting -0/-1 on tests, though admittedly some of the mid/early 40s are supposed to be easier than average.

Anyway, what are y'alls thoughts on fool proofing LG on PTs36+? Obviously I BRed them when I took, but should I go ahead and just start repeatedly doing these PTs' LG sections after I take them? I'm up in the high 40's now, so I was thinking I'd do 10 PT chunks of fool proofing the LG games, by the time I'm done with that, I'd be another 10 PTs ahead in testing. Repeat.

The advantage is just more and more practice on LG. The disadvantage is that such PTs would be "ruined" for retakes. Then again, I don't personally plan on doing many retakes because I've got so many untouched PTs in front of me and am already scoring well so I don't think I'll need to retake the real thing more than once.

Thoughts? What have others done to keep LG skills robust after completing the traditional fool proofing method?

Hey Everyone,

This week again we will keep practicing the low-high resolution summary method. The point of practice is to get better at what we already know so we will sharpen our skills a bit more this time. : )

I had a few requests this week about doing an Economics Passage. So this week we will be doing PT 8, Section 3, Passage 2. The PT is available for print on 7sage as an e-doc.

Just like last time all you need for the session is a copy of the passage and the questions in front of you. We will work through the passage together and do the questions under time before we go over them. So I would recommend not doing the passage before joining.

For people who will be joining for the first time, I will review the method we will be using to go over the passage beforehand. So you will quickly catch on. : )

To join the meeting all you have to do is click the link below at the specified date and time.

I'll see you all there! : )

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Hi Guys,

I got accepted for testing accommodations for the lsat in a few weeks. I viewed the confirmation letter and it says that I am testing on 6/17 and report time is 830. Is this correct? It isn't June 12 like everybody else?

Something completely different than what I have printed.