Does anyone else struggle with LG way more than LR and RC? I significantly improved on those sections, but I haven’t improved much on LG. It’s the one section that’s REALLY holding me back. So, I have a some questions.

For the games you have trouble with:

-How many times do you repeat them?

-How long do you wait between each repeat?

-When do you start timing yourself?

-When do you expect to get the game done in target time?

-More broadly, what is your LG study process?

My process is as follows:

I’m working on In/Out games right now. I’ll do the problem set on my own untimed. I’ll then watch the explanation video and set the game up like JY. I’ll compare my notations and diagramming to his. I’ll then rework the game question by question using the new setup. I’ll attempt each question again by myself and then watch JY explain it. After this, I’ll table the game for 1-2 days and then try it again on my own. It will be better at this point, but I usually don’t hit the target time.

Is this process effective? Is there anything I could do differently?

Hi everyone,

I was hoping if anyone can give me some clarity on a situation I am in.

I am applying to Law School right now with the goal of getting in for next September (Fall 2024). I am Canada based so a lot of my applications are actually due tonight (Nov 1st).

I wrote the Oct LSAT and I just got the score back today and I got a 154. This is OK, but I would like to aim for a higher score. I will be scheduling to write again in January, as that is the latest possible score most schools I am applying to take.

My situation is that I don't necessarily want the schools I am applying to, to consider this October score, and would prefer if they wait until my January score. I have the ability to cancel the score, so I don't know if I should cancel it, or is there some way to reach out to the schools and tell them to wait on my decision for a future score? I'm just unsure because I know sometimes a cancelled score can be considered a bad look, but I know I can work harder and do much better in January so I also think it might be worth it to take that risk.

Any help would be appreciated, thanks guys! :)

Because the v.2 CC is a lot shorter, according to my study schedule I would be finished months earlier than my intended test date (August 2024) I don't want to step back and stop studying just so my study schedule lines up with my test date (taking it in Aug b/c no logic games, so I don't want to take it sooner either) so what is best to do with this major amount of extra time?

Can you please bring back the Logic Games section in version2? I understand the new LSAT does not have Logic Games after August, however I think that this is a disservice to those taking the LSAT before August. I'm taking the November LSAT and was relying on the Version 2 lessons, and now my study schedule has been interrupted as a result. It was brought back then removed again. Version 2 is shorter than Version 1, I do not have the time to go through Version 1. Please let me know if you can help!

I am not sure if i should cancel or not. the percentiles and score bands are very different. Has anyone here cancelled and had a good outcome?

Apologize in advance for the number of "should I cancel?" posts likely to arise after the score release yesterday, but I haven't been able to find any direction for my specific scenario. After taking the test in September and receiving a 169, I just received a 165 on the October exam. I completely understand that these are both great scores, but, given my situation and family obligations, I really need to strive for every single dollar I can possibly receive from law schools to alleviate the financial burden.

Question is - Do you think it would be smart to cancel the 165, given that I already have a higher score? Or is it not worth it with respect to how admissions officers will generally view a cancellation? Any help would be highly appreciated. Taking the test again next week and hoping/planning to score in the mid-170s.

Hi. Its been over a year since I first went through the LR part of the 7Sage Curriculum and I have taken time away from studying in the interim. I am going to take the LSAT again to try to up my score, as I've taken a few PTs recently and scored 2-5 points higher than I used to score, consistently - trying to get every last scholarship dollar available.

I've spent most of my time since resuming studying working on LGs, but recently as I've started to work on grouping and in/out LGs, I've realized that I need some help going back over translating words into logic language, especially when dealing with negations, negative, or double negatives. Could someone point me to where in the 7Sage Curiculum I could get a quick crash course on logic translations for "or", "not both", and just basic logic translations to get me back on track as quickly as possible. I'm hoping to get back on track rather quickly and knock this (hopefully) final attempt of the LSAT out of the park.

How would I calculate mine? Would someone be willing to help me. My general GPA wasn’t very great.

If I knew I wanted to go to law school in undergrad I would have stuck around longer to raise my cumulative before I graduated.

I had a mental health crisis one semester in undergrad due to a bad reaction to antidepressant medication, and tried to petition my university to remove them off my transcript with no luck.

I’m hoping my CAS gpa is better.

After 1 year+ of studying for the LSAT, I feel devastated. I just recieved my October LSAT score - 162. In January I got 162 (cancelled) -> 160 in September (cancelled) -> and now 162 again. I thought I could get at least a 165 and feel at a loss because clearly I haven't been studying right for the past year.

I am almost done with my law school applications and intend to apply in the next two weeks. Is it even worth registering for the January LSAT? I'm not sure how much I could improve by then and it would more be for the purpose of having a better score if I was waitlisted or for scholarships... Also, I'm abroad currently so can only take the January international exam.

I am SO done with this awful exam. BTW I am a split scorer - 3.92 GPA and 162 LSAT. I want to get into a T14/20.

What do I do now? Should I just give up and apply with my 162 and hope for the best? I genuinely don't know how I can improve and I just feel like I can't get this test right.

Hello all! Who else is taking the JAN2024LSAT? How we feelin?

Is it safe to say that on the LSAT we always have to accept the premises as true? When I do an LR section, I don't usually take the time to "attack" arguments and prephrase. I basically quickly glance at the question stem, read the argument (identifying the conclusion and evidence), and then, I go straight to the AC's. Maybe, I'm too obsessed with timing. Generally, I -6 on LR. Does anyone have any strategies, or suggestions?

I'm having a ton of trouble with the LR section. does anyone have advice?

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I want to thank this wonderful site and staff for tagging along on this LSAT journey. I want to thank the entire staff for helping me achieve my dreams. Starting off with a 148 Diagnostic I was discouraged and inundated with Reddit wisdom establishing my ceiling as a 158 at best. I leave today knowing that there is no such ceiling.

Hello Everyone. I decided today that I would push back my LSAT date to August rather than June. I decided to do this because I am not that good at Logic Games and would rather spend more time practicing the LR and RC sections. With this being the case, I was so excited to see that there was a v2 of the core curriculum that focused on LR and RC. However, when looking at the “Learn” section of 7Sage, I noticed that there is only 94 hours of content instead of the hundreds of hours of content that was there in v1.

How do you all feel about the v2 Core Curriculum and more specifically do you think it will be a better option than v1’s Logic Games and Reading Comp sections?

Hi!

Does anyone have any engaging/useful/motivating podcasts related to LSATs that they recommend? My commute to work is an hour and I need something to help me feel productive. Would greatly appreciate it! :)

Hi all,

I can't find them anywhere. JW keeps referencing them in his explanation vids.

Thanks.

Curious what people think about this question. The second rationale is essentially that a punishment should fit the severity of the crime. Applied to the answer choices, we are to understand that we are not looking for an exact match, but rather a consistent parallel form of reasoning.

So, rationale: punishment = severity of crime.

A: Correctness = fairness

B: Correctness = what society deems correct

C: Correctness = consequences + inherent fairness

D: Correctness = consequences + intuitive rightness

E: Correctness = consequences

Curious on why A is the best answer. Fairness? Is this because attaching fairness to the correctness of an action is consistent with determining the severity of a punishment on the severity of the crime? There's no clear linkage.

Hello, I have been studying for a handful of months now after I rushed way too early last febuary and bombed the test with a 139 7 lower than my diagnostic.(I hate tests) I was aiming for this February to take it again in hopes that I could achieve a score in the mid 150s. Except it just seems that no matter what I do I cannot figure out this test. Lately I have been slowly going through the course and just drilling question types as many times as possible in hopes that I slowly start to develop strategies and then take another PT. Ive been told this is not hard to do multiple times from people but I just feel lost. Any advice or a breakdown of what your study schedule was I would appreciate. Mid 150s would get me into a decent law school :) but as of now Im basically just losing hope :/

How do I gain access to the new curriculum?

Hey everyone,

In CC v1 the PrepTest scheduling was integrated into the Study Schedule Generator. Saw that everything's been moved to the PrepTest tab, is there any way to maintain the PrepTest scheduling with the new Study Scheduler?

Thanks!

Firstly, I would like to acknowledge that I am extremely privileged to be able to have parents that supported me and allowed me to study so long. Id say Ive been studying for about 8 months full-time. I didn't take a diagnostic but started at a 156 on the 2007 test Post CC. This was around July 2019. After running my wheels and just taking a ton of PTs I realize I was approaching studying the wrong way. I contacted @"Habeas Porpoise" and I had a pretty good study schedule that I stuck to for a while. Eventually, (for better or worse) i stopped drilling. I literally started doing EVERY practice test starting from PT1. I worked my way up. It was pretty painstaking, but I figured that I couldn't go too wrong if I just started from PT1. I had a lot of time until my test date (which I planned for March back then). For me, this grindy style worked to an extent. After getting from 1-40, I'm positive I had the basics down and was able to consistently be in the mid 160s. Its hard to say because I was doing 2 sections a day and blind reviewing, as opposed to full practice tests. At this point, I was writing explanations account playable style for maybe half the questions in every practice test (they are on the explanation videos) if u ever wanna see. I was doing this ESPECIALLY for RC, because I found that it was my worst section. Now, at this point, I was in the mid 160s, and RC was my worst section. I was going -1 or -2 on games, maybe -4-6 in LR, but like -7 to -8 in RC.

Here, I contacted @"Cant Get Right". He helped me with RC strategies, and surprisingly, we found out that if I read faster and was more rigorous, I would probably score higher. This doesn't work for everyone, but Im guessing my background as a collegiate debater ingrained in me the ability to read faster. At this point, I was determined to get a high score. My goal at this point was still a 168 on test day. So for the next 3 or 4 months until March (it was December at this point) I took 2 sections a day and alternated with full practice tests. It was at this point (i think if you cross reference the times on the explanation videos) that i took RC REALLY SERIOUSLY. After practice test 45, up to like 70, i think i wrote an explanation for EVERY RC question in every test. I would write why the right answer is right, and also why every single other answer choice is wrong. Honestly, its hard to tell if it helped lol. Id like to think so because RC ended up being my best section, starting at -8 to -10, to -0 to -3. On harder sections (like the token section) I scored -2. On candor I scored --4 (whole section).

At this point, I was hitting 169-172 on PTs and was ready for March. The test was cancelled. Idk i was pretty sad because I felt ready and I was quickly running out of PTs. Until they announced the Flex, I just retook old practice tests, because I didnt really want to commit to taking new tests until I knew when the next test was.

They announced the May Flex, and I moved up from the 70s. At this point, my study schedule was pretty intense. Id take a practice test, and write an explanation for EVERY question, including all LR and RC questions, and post on the forums. Id post an explanation PRE knowing the answer, and if I got it wrong, would post an explanation saying why I got what I got wrong and why the right answer is right.

Did this help? I would like to think so. At the 170 level, I dont think its necessary to spend 10 minutes reviewing a one star question in LR. But I like to be better safe than sorry, and reinforce my reasoning even for the easiest questions. i was doing 2 sections of games a day as well. i was also reading the Economist or the Atlantic for an extra 30 minutes - 1 hour everyday.

Then comes the May Flex. I cant say too much about the test, but nerves got me and I choked on LG. 168. Had a ton of time on the last game, misread a rule, and it was over lol. Couldnt think straight, and in 3 minutes, wasnt able to even do one question on the last game. At this point, I wasn't really sure what to do. I was happy and grateful for my score, but I felt I left so much on the table. I felt I worked so hard and I ended up scoring a bit below my average. I was scared to retake, because I didnt think I could work any harder (nor do I think that its smarter to just do more) and I didn't want to be disappointed again.

From May till July, i had about 15 PTs left. I think I did 10 of them. Same thing, posted an explanation for every single question. If you go from the 70s to the 80s youll find my explanations for almost every question. I wanted to make sure I knew the test inside out. At this point, I was consistently scoring around -1 to -3 in RC. -0 or -1 in LG. And LR was the decider. Sometimes -0, sometimes -7 lol. So I worked on LR for 2 months. I peaked with a 177 PT, and was averaging 173-174 ish.

All the time, starting from when I bought 7sage, I made sure to follow J.Y.s advice. Didn't really party or drink, took sleep seriously, and made sure I had a healthy mindset with exercise and diet. I recognize I'm very privileged to be able to do that. I got a full decked out home gym the moment corona hit, and I think that helped. I woulda gone crazy if it wasn't for that, as I've always been big into fitness.

So, coming into July, I was really really confident. From time to time, I had time problems. the 35 minute sections seemed brutal at times. But it would never cause a disaster for me. On PTs id always get at least a 170 at this point. The test was ok. i do think I rolled p unlucky. I know the curve balances out but with LR being my weakest section and rolling what I perceive to be the hardest LR section, it was brutal. Still, got a 172. Not gunna retake because I think 1-2 below PT average is fine. Its not worth it to retake for me. Also, I only have 5 fresh PTs left, and I want to save them for tutoring/teaching purposes.

Throughout this whole time, It really put a smile on my face whenever someone commented my explanations helped them. It was a goal of mine to be an approved sage, and I'm glad it finally happened! For the next year, Ill be taking on students part time while enjoying my life before law school.

If you wanna learn more about me and what I can offer tutoring wise, visit this page, im at the very bottom.

https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/4760/7sages-approved-tutors/p1

If you can learn anything from me, its that I literally brute forced my way to a 172 lol. If anyone wants any specific tips or more details on my journey feel free to PM me!

Hello!

The title says it all, but I have been studying for about 10-15 hours / week on my own with 7Sage, The LSAT Trainer, and Loophole while working part-time for the past 5 months. I used to PT around 160-162 since August, but since moving to a new house in September, I started scoring below 150-155. On the October Test, I thought I did better on RC and LR than usual, but on LG, which was the last section, I completely panicked and had to guess half of them, whereas during PT's LG was my strongest section, where I missed 0 to 1 every time, and what kept me motivated. I know I could have put in more time and effort, and although I am not a super genius, I was pretty despaired and depressed to not see any increase at all (combined GPA is 3.94, graduated from top 10). The 150 score is highly making me doubt my aptitude in this field and question if I should continue studying or if it would be wise to give up now. Studying and practicing the law has always thrilled me, but I have often felt like I am not really the type of person for the LSAT. I thought about getting a tutor or attending a class, but am not in the right financial situation to be able to afford that..:/ If I should continue, should I cancel my score, or will that play against me? I would love any advice, as I am very stuck in making this decision. Thank you so much in advance!!

Can anyone please tell me how the answer choice (B) is correct and (C) is wrong?? I just can't get myself to understand. This just sounds like the question is playing word games.

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Hi all, just wondering how to access the V2 or the new curriculum? Thanks in advance!