Hello all! Who else is taking the JAN2024LSAT? How we feelin?

Is it safe to say that on the LSAT we always have to accept the premises as true? When I do an LR section, I don't usually take the time to "attack" arguments and prephrase. I basically quickly glance at the question stem, read the argument (identifying the conclusion and evidence), and then, I go straight to the AC's. Maybe, I'm too obsessed with timing. Generally, I -6 on LR. Does anyone have any strategies, or suggestions?

I'm having a ton of trouble with the LR section. does anyone have advice?

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I want to thank this wonderful site and staff for tagging along on this LSAT journey. I want to thank the entire staff for helping me achieve my dreams. Starting off with a 148 Diagnostic I was discouraged and inundated with Reddit wisdom establishing my ceiling as a 158 at best. I leave today knowing that there is no such ceiling.

Hello Everyone. I decided today that I would push back my LSAT date to August rather than June. I decided to do this because I am not that good at Logic Games and would rather spend more time practicing the LR and RC sections. With this being the case, I was so excited to see that there was a v2 of the core curriculum that focused on LR and RC. However, when looking at the “Learn” section of 7Sage, I noticed that there is only 94 hours of content instead of the hundreds of hours of content that was there in v1.

How do you all feel about the v2 Core Curriculum and more specifically do you think it will be a better option than v1’s Logic Games and Reading Comp sections?

Hi!

Does anyone have any engaging/useful/motivating podcasts related to LSATs that they recommend? My commute to work is an hour and I need something to help me feel productive. Would greatly appreciate it! :)

Hi all,

I can't find them anywhere. JW keeps referencing them in his explanation vids.

Thanks.

Curious what people think about this question. The second rationale is essentially that a punishment should fit the severity of the crime. Applied to the answer choices, we are to understand that we are not looking for an exact match, but rather a consistent parallel form of reasoning.

So, rationale: punishment = severity of crime.

A: Correctness = fairness

B: Correctness = what society deems correct

C: Correctness = consequences + inherent fairness

D: Correctness = consequences + intuitive rightness

E: Correctness = consequences

Curious on why A is the best answer. Fairness? Is this because attaching fairness to the correctness of an action is consistent with determining the severity of a punishment on the severity of the crime? There's no clear linkage.

Hello, I have been studying for a handful of months now after I rushed way too early last febuary and bombed the test with a 139 7 lower than my diagnostic.(I hate tests) I was aiming for this February to take it again in hopes that I could achieve a score in the mid 150s. Except it just seems that no matter what I do I cannot figure out this test. Lately I have been slowly going through the course and just drilling question types as many times as possible in hopes that I slowly start to develop strategies and then take another PT. Ive been told this is not hard to do multiple times from people but I just feel lost. Any advice or a breakdown of what your study schedule was I would appreciate. Mid 150s would get me into a decent law school :) but as of now Im basically just losing hope :/

How do I gain access to the new curriculum?

Hey everyone,

In CC v1 the PrepTest scheduling was integrated into the Study Schedule Generator. Saw that everything's been moved to the PrepTest tab, is there any way to maintain the PrepTest scheduling with the new Study Scheduler?

Thanks!

Firstly, I would like to acknowledge that I am extremely privileged to be able to have parents that supported me and allowed me to study so long. Id say Ive been studying for about 8 months full-time. I didn't take a diagnostic but started at a 156 on the 2007 test Post CC. This was around July 2019. After running my wheels and just taking a ton of PTs I realize I was approaching studying the wrong way. I contacted @"Habeas Porpoise" and I had a pretty good study schedule that I stuck to for a while. Eventually, (for better or worse) i stopped drilling. I literally started doing EVERY practice test starting from PT1. I worked my way up. It was pretty painstaking, but I figured that I couldn't go too wrong if I just started from PT1. I had a lot of time until my test date (which I planned for March back then). For me, this grindy style worked to an extent. After getting from 1-40, I'm positive I had the basics down and was able to consistently be in the mid 160s. Its hard to say because I was doing 2 sections a day and blind reviewing, as opposed to full practice tests. At this point, I was writing explanations account playable style for maybe half the questions in every practice test (they are on the explanation videos) if u ever wanna see. I was doing this ESPECIALLY for RC, because I found that it was my worst section. Now, at this point, I was in the mid 160s, and RC was my worst section. I was going -1 or -2 on games, maybe -4-6 in LR, but like -7 to -8 in RC.

Here, I contacted @"Cant Get Right". He helped me with RC strategies, and surprisingly, we found out that if I read faster and was more rigorous, I would probably score higher. This doesn't work for everyone, but Im guessing my background as a collegiate debater ingrained in me the ability to read faster. At this point, I was determined to get a high score. My goal at this point was still a 168 on test day. So for the next 3 or 4 months until March (it was December at this point) I took 2 sections a day and alternated with full practice tests. It was at this point (i think if you cross reference the times on the explanation videos) that i took RC REALLY SERIOUSLY. After practice test 45, up to like 70, i think i wrote an explanation for EVERY RC question in every test. I would write why the right answer is right, and also why every single other answer choice is wrong. Honestly, its hard to tell if it helped lol. Id like to think so because RC ended up being my best section, starting at -8 to -10, to -0 to -3. On harder sections (like the token section) I scored -2. On candor I scored --4 (whole section).

At this point, I was hitting 169-172 on PTs and was ready for March. The test was cancelled. Idk i was pretty sad because I felt ready and I was quickly running out of PTs. Until they announced the Flex, I just retook old practice tests, because I didnt really want to commit to taking new tests until I knew when the next test was.

They announced the May Flex, and I moved up from the 70s. At this point, my study schedule was pretty intense. Id take a practice test, and write an explanation for EVERY question, including all LR and RC questions, and post on the forums. Id post an explanation PRE knowing the answer, and if I got it wrong, would post an explanation saying why I got what I got wrong and why the right answer is right.

Did this help? I would like to think so. At the 170 level, I dont think its necessary to spend 10 minutes reviewing a one star question in LR. But I like to be better safe than sorry, and reinforce my reasoning even for the easiest questions. i was doing 2 sections of games a day as well. i was also reading the Economist or the Atlantic for an extra 30 minutes - 1 hour everyday.

Then comes the May Flex. I cant say too much about the test, but nerves got me and I choked on LG. 168. Had a ton of time on the last game, misread a rule, and it was over lol. Couldnt think straight, and in 3 minutes, wasnt able to even do one question on the last game. At this point, I wasn't really sure what to do. I was happy and grateful for my score, but I felt I left so much on the table. I felt I worked so hard and I ended up scoring a bit below my average. I was scared to retake, because I didnt think I could work any harder (nor do I think that its smarter to just do more) and I didn't want to be disappointed again.

From May till July, i had about 15 PTs left. I think I did 10 of them. Same thing, posted an explanation for every single question. If you go from the 70s to the 80s youll find my explanations for almost every question. I wanted to make sure I knew the test inside out. At this point, I was consistently scoring around -1 to -3 in RC. -0 or -1 in LG. And LR was the decider. Sometimes -0, sometimes -7 lol. So I worked on LR for 2 months. I peaked with a 177 PT, and was averaging 173-174 ish.

All the time, starting from when I bought 7sage, I made sure to follow J.Y.s advice. Didn't really party or drink, took sleep seriously, and made sure I had a healthy mindset with exercise and diet. I recognize I'm very privileged to be able to do that. I got a full decked out home gym the moment corona hit, and I think that helped. I woulda gone crazy if it wasn't for that, as I've always been big into fitness.

So, coming into July, I was really really confident. From time to time, I had time problems. the 35 minute sections seemed brutal at times. But it would never cause a disaster for me. On PTs id always get at least a 170 at this point. The test was ok. i do think I rolled p unlucky. I know the curve balances out but with LR being my weakest section and rolling what I perceive to be the hardest LR section, it was brutal. Still, got a 172. Not gunna retake because I think 1-2 below PT average is fine. Its not worth it to retake for me. Also, I only have 5 fresh PTs left, and I want to save them for tutoring/teaching purposes.

Throughout this whole time, It really put a smile on my face whenever someone commented my explanations helped them. It was a goal of mine to be an approved sage, and I'm glad it finally happened! For the next year, Ill be taking on students part time while enjoying my life before law school.

If you wanna learn more about me and what I can offer tutoring wise, visit this page, im at the very bottom.

https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/4760/7sages-approved-tutors/p1

If you can learn anything from me, its that I literally brute forced my way to a 172 lol. If anyone wants any specific tips or more details on my journey feel free to PM me!

Hello!

The title says it all, but I have been studying for about 10-15 hours / week on my own with 7Sage, The LSAT Trainer, and Loophole while working part-time for the past 5 months. I used to PT around 160-162 since August, but since moving to a new house in September, I started scoring below 150-155. On the October Test, I thought I did better on RC and LR than usual, but on LG, which was the last section, I completely panicked and had to guess half of them, whereas during PT's LG was my strongest section, where I missed 0 to 1 every time, and what kept me motivated. I know I could have put in more time and effort, and although I am not a super genius, I was pretty despaired and depressed to not see any increase at all (combined GPA is 3.94, graduated from top 10). The 150 score is highly making me doubt my aptitude in this field and question if I should continue studying or if it would be wise to give up now. Studying and practicing the law has always thrilled me, but I have often felt like I am not really the type of person for the LSAT. I thought about getting a tutor or attending a class, but am not in the right financial situation to be able to afford that..:/ If I should continue, should I cancel my score, or will that play against me? I would love any advice, as I am very stuck in making this decision. Thank you so much in advance!!

Can anyone please tell me how the answer choice (B) is correct and (C) is wrong?? I just can't get myself to understand. This just sounds like the question is playing word games.

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Hi all, just wondering how to access the V2 or the new curriculum? Thanks in advance!

LG was by far my worst section (-17 on cold diagnostic), and now that is at a -6. I was planning on finishing LG, but these "in-out" games seem to rely on previous lessons in LR (I assume), is it time to pivot and do LR then come back to LG?

Also, how often do these pop up? I've done 3 PTs and never had one, just seq, seq twist, and grouping.

After 1 year+ of studying for the LSAT, I feel devastated. I just recieved my October LSAT score - 162. In January I got 162 (cancelled) -> 160 in September (cancelled) -> and now 162 again. I thought I could get at least a 165 and feel at a loss because clearly I haven't been studying right for the past year.

I am almost done with my law school applications and intend to apply in the next two weeks. Is it even worth registering for the January LSAT? I'm not sure how much I could improve by then and it would more be for the purpose of having a better score if I was waitlisted or for scholarships... Also, I'm abroad currently so can only take the January international exam.

I am SO done with this awful exam. BTW I am a split scorer - 3.92 GPA and 162 LSAT. I want to get into a T14/20.

What do I do now? Should I just give up and apply with my 162 and hope for the best? I genuinely don't know how I can improve and I just feel like I can't get this test right.

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Hey guys! So I started with a diagnostic of 147 and have managed to pull my PT's up to the 163 ish range currently. Do you think it is possible at all to score a 168 or 169 by the time I actually take the test on Nov. 9th? I am usually getting about 21/28 on RC, 20-21/25 on LR and 19/23 ish on LG depending on the test. I will keep a 163 or better, but I am trying to attend UGA and have heard that I really need a 169 or better to ensure I get in. Thanks!~

So,

I have been studying had for 2months, and I think I've done decent. I've got my self to a 165-168 range constantly. But this progress seems to have forzen over the last 3 weeks with me being locked in that range. With the mode being 167.

I'm constantly 0- -2 on the LG, -3/-5 RC, and always fucking -6 on LR. I used to be worse on RC, but that improved at the cost of the LR.

I think I may be struggling with LAWGIC, I'm not entirely sure. The def suggest I'm getting SA and NA wrong, 1 or more of each per test. but the rest is just all over the place.

FYI, I've done the loophole, which IMO did nothing for me. I've done the 7sage CC.

Any advice for a 2 3 question bump on LR by exam date. I'd love to crack 170, however doubtful.

Is taking the LSAT in January and submitting my application materials too late for the Fall 2024 class?

I have been out of college for some time and really do not want to put off law school any longer so any advice is greatly appreciated. I understand it would put me at a disadvantage compared to those applying before thanksgiving but do I still have a decent shot if I score in the high 160's? I have backups that are decent in the T50s and below but ideally I would like T30 and above.

Prep Test A Section 1 Question 21

I was stuck between answer choices C and E for this question but am having a hard time fully understanding why C is the correct answer. Would appreciate an explanation! #help #feedback

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Hi, I was wondering how I can gain access to CC v2? Also I'm 60% done with the LR curriculum on CC v1 and I'm wondering if I should make the switch to v2 now or if I should reference v2 as a refresher?

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