Hi all,

I think I am starting to understand how to tackle the Logic Games section! I started out truly baffled but am now drilling some of the games I had trouble with and am getting into a groove.

However, I still struggle with 2 things: 1) timing and 2) whether to split the game board or not.

I find that for some games, I can draw the game board and jot down the rules in no time but sit there for 4-5 minutes just trying to figure out how I can put rules 1/2/3/etc. together. Sometimes, I even end up figuring out all of the inferences correctly (or find every possible rendition of my 4 game boards for one game) but look at the clock and see that I have 1 minute to answer the remaining 3-4 questions which is NOT good.

Is there a trick to knowing when to figure out inferences up front vs. unraveling them through the questions themselves? And when should I spend time splitting my game board up versus opting out (for example, in the explanation video of PrepTest 1 - Section 2 - Game 1 vs Game 4)?

Best,

Josh

Hi everybody! Was hoping to be able to poll the sages (or anyone that feels the are able to consistently go -0/-1 in Logic Games) about best practices for doing Logic Games digitally.

I'm trying to break into the -0/-1 camp (very soon hopefully) but find myself occasionally thwarted by one or two 'stupid' mistakes per section - I'm talking about selecting a could be true in a could be true EXCEPT because halfway into the ACs I lost track of what I was doing. In the past, the recommended best practice is a tactile approach:

Does anyone have any tricks or tips for translating these (and others that I might have missed) into the new digital LSAT era?

To share some of what I've done - I make an effort to organize EVERY game the EXACT SAME way on my scratch paper (which I much prefer to writing in the margins): I always list my game pieces in rows of 3; I always write my game board under my game pieces and write out the rules on the left-hand side of the page beneath my master game board; if there are any splits, I make those on the left side of my paper and save the whole right half for game boards to create when answering questions. I've found that this is very helpful because, my eyes/pencil know instinctively where to go.

Just wanted advice on the powerscore lsat prep books, Are they effective?

if anyone who has written the LSAT can comment below and has used these books...

What are the most effective studying books

Thanks

I just talked to one of my friends, who admitted Yale but decided to defer to 2021.

I simply wonder, how many people do you guys think will do the same things as my friend did. I guess, the more people in this cycle choose to defer, the harder for us to get in law school in the upcoming cycle.

It's really disappointed... If all students choose to defer, would that means we have to get 180 on LSAT in order to get in law school?

I scored a 148 on LSAT, I do well on RC and LG however, I am TERRIBLE at logical reasoning. English is not my first language and I often struggle to read and understand things. This makes it difficult to interpret information but I am now aiming for a 160; I am taking my exam in October... I have a 4.0 GPA, every extracurricular activity you can think of, started my own organization, and I am undocumented. I am so terrified of not doing well again. Any tips on studying?

I just wanted to express a thanks to all who share their anxieties on this forum because it really helped me hurdle the pressures of apps and studying throughout my journey.

I started studying in summer 18 through 7sage. I ended up putting my career on hold to get married and move abroad. All the while extending my account periodically because I knew I would want to eventually take the lsat and go to law school. Just keeping connected to this community and the dedication of the constant posters helped me muster up enough courage to get back on the horse. Either way I started studying again in June 2019 for the Oct test. I took a diagnostic at 147 timed. That was upsetting but I knew I couldn't just assume I was gonna kill this test without work. I took all but the last 12 pts and got a 160 on the Oct test. I knew I was able to get a few points higher and pushed myself for the January test. I applied to a bunch of schools with that score but told them I was taking a future test and they held my app until my next score came. Finally to my joy I received my Jan test score back. A 164. At that point I was content and decided thats the best I can do I tried twice let's see what happens.

Ok. So a 164 3.86 from an online college BA.

Here's my cycle can't remember dates but my score didn't allow my apps to get to review until the middle of Feb.

University of Houston- accepted with big Scholly

University Cincinnati- same as above

Scu law tech edge program- same as above

Cardozo law- huge Scholly

Loyola L.A.- accepted

Asu-waitlist

After my new score I applied to a few more schools

Bc- accepted half Scholly

Emory- priority wl

Bu- wl

Gw- accepted w some Scholly

UcL.A.- wl

Wustl- accepted with more than half

The reason I'm writing this is not to show off. It's because everyone gets too caught up in the numbers and I see it really holds people back from not only studying but also even applying to schools where they are way below the median. Keep healthy.

Thanks 7sage for making my ride a lot more informed and fearless.

I broke the 170 barrier with a 177 on PT 86! I then got a 172 on 87. What's the best way to keep this scores up and not falter when my July test comes up? (It'll be my first take!)

I have a laptop that is touch-screen.

Thank you in advance!

I want to work on FP my logic games. Was wondering which PTs I should use above 36 to just take for LG? Should I split it in into odds and evens and use one of those for FP and the others for full PTs?

Hi!

What is the best way to practice the LSAT-Flex format? Will 7Sage create mock LSAT-Flex exams, or shall we simply choose a random LG, LR, and RC section to create a 3-section mock Flex exam?

Any advice is much welcomed.

Hi all!

I am looking for a study/accountability buddy for the July 13th date. I just started studying but I was recently laid off due to COVID so studying is all I have to do! Let me know if you are in a similar situation!

Brooke

Hi,

So I understand most of the reason why C is correct in this question, but how we can assume that if "single persons, on average, purchase the same kinds of food items" then this is consistent with all people who spent 2 times more money on food 30 years ago? After all, if something occurs on an average, doesn't that mean that it isn't necessarily true that all people do that something?

Hope my question makes sense

Any #help would be appreciated!

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Hi Folks:

In order to give the May Flex folks one last push to LSAT flex finish line I am hosting a blind review of PT 80, Section 1 (Logical Reasoning)

To get the most out of this session please come prepared, having completed the section but not having marked it.

Meeting will be held on zoom

I hope to see you there!

https://us02web.zoom.us/j/84033688826?pwd=Zy9nWHlzZFBaUmJaMnJ2dFVlblpiUT09

PW:965128

Hi!

I just started Fool Proofing PTs 17-33 (basically CC games). I do about one test’s worth of games a day and noticed a trend of mastering them on day 2 (0 wrong and under the target time).

Ok so my question is why ten copies?

If each day is two copies of the same test (one for when you first take it that day, and the other for after you watch the explanation video). But with a 2 day trend of “mastering”, I can’t imagine why the general rule is to print out 10 copies, or 5 days worth of FPing?

Am I missing something? I’m getting a dreadful feeling that maybe I’m rushing it or missing the point? I know it’s not because I’m good at games. Hmm. I honestly think I just have decent short term memory and that’s biasing my ability to make inferences correctly the next day. But I’m definitely making them. Is that the point? And if so, does it last? Or should I be returning to the games I “mastered” way the f later and try them again when the learned inferences are less fresh? Maybe I answered my own question.

So tired. :T

Please help explain what I’m missing!!

#help

I finished the CC a while ago, foolproofed all the games from PT's 16 - 35 and then started taking PT's. Seeing how low my LG scores were, I've incorporated more LG work into my schedule by drilling games from PT 1-15, and foolproofing newer games from the PT's I'm taking. I'm still working on the 1-15 batch, but it is really discouraging to see that I sometimes score as low as -4 on a new game from these old PT's. Also, among the 4 PT's that I took to this day, my LG average is -8.

I should add that even though I am putting in regular practice into it, I haven't focused entirely to LG because I also need to improve in LR and RC, and I felt like I could improve by incorporating some regular LG work into my schedule without devoting all my time to it. Because honestly, BR'ing games is a breeze to me and I always manage to get a perfect score in a short amount of time in BR. So I'm really upset that I'm not seeing results when doing the games timed. I feel too rushed and stressed even when I'm using a stopwatch instead of a count-down, and I make stupid mistakes that I can see right through in BR.

I would really really appreciate any help that you guys can provide.

PS. I'm registered for the June international exam on the 28th, and if I don't sit this one I will miss this cycle since the next exam is in November, so I'm looking to improve until then (hopefully).

I have just begun the foolproofing process for pt's 1-35 and i am just curious as to how many sections those of you who foolproofed did per day. I was originally planning on doing one a day that way i can keep up with RC and LR while foolproofing but i have not started timed prep tests yet and was hoping to sit for the August exam and have October as a fall back if it doesn't go well. I am concerned doing one per day would put me to early/mid June and then only roughly 2-2.5 months to prep test. Do you guys think that is enough time for pt's? Thanks in advance for your advice and help!

Hey Everyone!

First off, thank you for reading my post. I need help! At my current school, we do not have a law school advisor, and I am in this blind. I don't know how to go about ANYTHING. I want to apply for law school for Fall 2021. I currently have a 3.9 GPA, and I have no idea where to start with the LSAT. I don't know when or where to start preparing for this whole process. Honestly, I know nothing. I tried to find help at my school, but they don't focus on law. Can someone please help me? I need guidance. After reading a lot of the forums, I just ordered the PowerScore Self Study Package, and the LSAT Trainer by Mike Kim. Any advice will truly be appreciated. I feel like I am at a complete loss!

I need help figuring a timeline, how to go about the LSAT preparation (PowerScore has a study plan, but I did not pay for the digital test), and the whole application process itself.

Hi,

So this was a tough question because it is a MSS (Most Strongly Supported) question, but I was not able to really think of how the one right answer (C) must be true based on the information provided. Some tutors think that this question is just an example of how sometimes MSS answers are simply what is "most strongly supported" (and thus not necessarily must-be-true), but can anybody think of a way to make C must be true?

Thank you!

Any thoughts would be very much appreciated!

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Hey guys, I'm sitting for the June international exam (28th) and I'm looking for advice on how I should spend my time leading up to that point.

June is my first take, so I've saved up around 3-4 tests each from the 50s and 60s and 5 tests from the 70s. I haven't touched the 80s yet, but I'm planning to save up 5 tests.

This leaves me with 5 PTs to work on until June. I'm scoring 175 average, so my main goal is consistency and bringing down unnecessary mistakes. With quite a bit of time left, I'm not sure what to do other than take those 5 pts and reviewing questions I got incorrect in the past - doesn't really feel like I'm doing something substantial. Does anyone have tips on drills / review methods I can try out during this time?

Any insight would be appreciated!

Hey guys!

Does anyone have a quizlet or something helpful to help them review the different type of stimulus's for LR?

Thanks!

Hi all,

I have been studying for the LSAT for about a year now, and am experiencing a dilemma the past couple PTs I have taken. LG is my strongest section, going -0 and -1 on practically every section known to man since I have fool proofed a few months ago. I have seen a decline in my LG score in the last 3 PTs I've taken. At first I wasn't worried, given this is my strongest section and I was sure everything would go back to normal, but I just finished BRing PT 63 and my actual score was a -8 and BR was a -6 (on a section labeled "easiest"). I completely screwed up an entire game and didn't catch it in BR because I never flagged it! I was feeling more prepared than ever to take the LSAT Flex May 19, and I was feeling more confident because I've been drilling the hell out of my weak points in LR for the past 3 months and have seen an improvement in that score, but what's the point of that increasing if LG is just going to go down? Do I back off the drilling on LR and focus more on LG these last 2 weeks, or do I just double up the studying??? It'll only be two weeks worth, what do you guys think? (Currently studying about 3-4 hours a day).

Hi,

I heard test takers will have the option to check their score before deciding if they want to keep it or discard it if they are taking the LSAT Flex. Is this accurate or will the policy remain as usual (you can only cancel before seeing the score)?

#LSATFlex

#Help

Curious if this question is an example of an argument proceeding by attacking the premise of another argument:

Context: Case of French Revolution is evidence for a particular claim.

Conclusion: The French Revolution is a poor example of this claim.

P1: France was unique in a particular way (directly supports conclusion)

MP/SC: Normal disruptions typical of revolution were avoided (directly supports Conclusion)

P2: Same civil servants stayed in office (supports MP/SC)

My question is whether this is an example of an argument undermining the support structure of another argument - providing additional context that uncovers certain assumptions his opponents were making? Or is the author going straight for the jugular so to speak and just claiming that their premise (the French Revolution) is a poor one?

Hello everyone -- I am new to 7Sage, so I apologize if this has been covered.

I have taken 15 practice tests. My most recent (today) was PT 73 and I scored a 160. My highest score is a 165 (PT 71). My diagnostic was a 153. My scores have pretty much been all over and I am really struggling to process this test emotionally at the moment. Some days I feel motivated and ready to kick it, but other days I am so disappointed by what feels like lack of progress.

I feel like I have the fundamentals down when I study, but when it comes to practice tests, I feel like I bomb it. Some tests, I do well on LR and poorly on RC. On 73, I did well on RC and did a horrible job on LR. It just seems inconsistent. Ironically, I score in the 170s when I BR. I know it is possible to get that on timed PTs as well, but I am struggling to get that.

Any advice on closing the gap between timed PTs and BR? I plan on restructuring my studying to focus on drilling question types I am particularly weak at.

Also, did anyone else notice a dip going into the 72+ tests?

I plan to take the test in July. Feeling a little bummed and worried that a 10+ point increase will not be possible. Thanks for any help, and apologies if this is a little pessimistic.

I'm confused. I took the June 2007 PT on paper. Now, do I input my answers into 7sage to get the raw score? Or just stop, do the blind review, then input the answers I got on the blind review? I'm just lost as to where we input both our raw scores and our blind review scores. #help