Can "should" really be part of a conditional statement or is "should" only used for Psuedo Sufficient Assumption Questions/Answers... "Should" means I most likely need to do this, its not a guaranteed result/solution like a conditional statement -necessary condition. Would appreciate everyone's thoughts on this because its all over the lsat prep tests and I cant find it covered in the syllabus.

The consensus online seems to be that retaking is always a good idea if you can do better, but I've been told by an extremely qualified and experienced admissions consultant (from Spivey) that it will look bad if I retake my 174 from the May flex given my GPA (above the 75ths everywhere).

Is there any data on this? Does anyone that's been in a similar position have thoughts to share?

I'm pretty confident I can do at least 2-3 points better on a second take since I have room to improve RC, especially on a regular test with RC weighted less heavily.

Thanks!

I have been working on Logic Games for about 5 weeks now and I feel like I am hitting a wall. Because I have been fool-proofing and have a limited number of hours in a day, I have only been able to get through "Introduction to Logic Games & Sequencing Games" and "Sequencing Games with a Twist."

I keep redoing old games and getting one or two wrong. This is frustrating and also unclear if it is evaluating me properly because I am definitely remembering questions that I have done 5 + times. So, as much as I try to play each game anew every time, it is hard to really do so under time constraints. When I am up against the clock, I find myself picking the answer I remember.

Do y'all think it makes sense to move on? Or keep fool-proofing?

Does anyone know what the difference is between SeqOne games in LG and SeqPure games in LG? They seem to be more or less the same lol.

Hi,

I think this question is infamously hard... can anyone explain why the answer is D and not C? Both C and D looked incredibly attractive :(

P.S. I have read a lot of explanations for this question, and the top 2 I have seen (but don't feel fully address why D is right and C is wrong) are:

explanation #1-- D is the only correctly qualified answer choice: D is the only one that talks about "viewers" and all the other answer choices talk about other groups of people that may not include the surveyed viewers.

My problem with explanation #1: D talks about "viewers surveyed immediately prior to the debate", while the stimulus talks about "viewers surveyed immediately after the debate". These 2 groups may or may not intersect. In addition C talks people who people who watched the televised debate, which also may or may not intersect with the "viewers surveyed immediately after the debate" described in the stimulus. Thus, both C and D may or may not qualified correctly.

explanation #2-- it is totally possible for us to take the information in C and not weaken the stimulus at all. After all, let's say that the people who watched the debate were 5% more likely to vote for Tanner than those who did not watch. It is still possible for the viewers surveyed among the people who watched the debate to be biased for Lopez.

My problem with explanation #2: a flaw also exist with D-- that the viewers surveyed immediately prior to the debate are not the same people surveyed after the debate. This could mean that D could be true without weakening the argument too. In this respect, I feel like it is still quite difficult to balance between the 2 answer choices when both seem flawed, and it is hard to tell which one is less flawed.

Thanks!

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Hi everyone! I hope you all are killing the study grind! Anyways, I was wondering if anyone had some tips on Reading Comp? I understand what JY is doing, but I am not seeing much improvement in my score. I understand there might not be a lot of strategy to Reading Comp, but I didn't know if any of you might be doing something that works for you?

Thanks again!

Hey! I’m looking for a study buddy/accountability partner. I’m open to zoom, texting, FaceTime, anything really lol.i am trying to get a high score but I’m currently scoring low and it would be great to have someone to go on this journey with. I live in Houston atm (CST).

I'm finding during prep testing that if I'm not too sure about a question I just circle what I think it could be and move on in order to finish all the questions in the alloted time. Would you say it's better to NOT finish all the questions and make sure each one you do finish is completely correct? Or do you find you get a better score by finishing all the questions and getting some wrong?

Thanks!

I study every day and am working most intensely on trying to improve on logic games, I'm pretty good at everything else and can share resources! I find it easier to stay motivated when I've got other people working towards the same goal.

The reason I mention 170 plus is because of the following suggestion from a 180 scorer

Share the Same Goals - In one sense, my in-person partner did not have the same goal as me (HYS) because she didn't have the GPA for it, but my online partner did. In another sense, we all had similar goals (a top LSAT score), although my goal was still probably a little more ambitious than my in-person partner's (i.e. a 180 vs. -172-175). I think it probably helps to be paired up with someone with the same goal, but I can't say it's a necessary characteristic to look for, because my in-person partner was useful despite not having the exact same goal. Same Passion and Drive - See above; it seems like it's probably very helpful, but it may not be necessary to have someone as highly motivated as you are. One thing you definitely DON'T want, though, is someone who will meet up with you and then detract from your ability to study (by chatting with you, for example). Note: I was able to get some of the benefit of this characteristic from reading the advice in the "How to Get a 160+" thread.

DEPENDABLE - This is probably one of the most important characteristics to look for in an in-person study partner. My in-person partner and I met at least one or two other people at the Borders where we studied (and talked to several others on TLS), but all of them stopped coming (or never showed up in the first place). Be ready for this; it's probably a good idea to meet up with people as close to your house/apartment as possible, so that you won't be too inconvenienced by people not showing up. Being on time is another important thing, although both I and my partner were lazy at times. Try to have at least 3-4 hours free whenever you plan to meet up with others, because it may well be an hour after your arranged meeting time before the other person shows up and you're both done using the bathroom and eating.

Share Suggestions and Opinions - You can get a lot of this benefit from reading the advice of highscorers and by asking for advice in the forums. On the other hand, I tried to always focus on this aspect of my training partner relationships, because I thought that the best way for us to improve would be to reflect on our mistakes and try to think of ways to avoid those mistakes in the future. There were also times when my partners and I made suggestions that I never saw in a forum.

Honest and Critical - The importance of this can go either way; it is important to have a partner who can help you spot weaknesses in your study method or test-taking method, but it is also important to have someone who won't be overly critical and hurt your morale. I was probably more critical than my in-person partner (probably because I had more time to study and thus found it easier to put out a big, and frequently told her when I thought she was wasting her time with a particular method or not studying hard enough. It seemed to annoy her at times, which is when I would back off. Ultimately, though, I think the combination of my criticism and my own hard work (which she could see for herself) may have motivated her to study harder than she would have if I wasn't paired up with her. For example, in the last month or two before the test she said she was putting out an enormous effort including taking a PT a day, which is not an easy thing to do for more than a few days.

Context: I don't study in the US, and am not planning to fly in just for taking a August session LSAT. Also, the next available international LSAT is in October.

Dilemma: I'm deciding if I should registering for the US LSAT in August when there is a decent chance that August administration would still be Flex.

Assumptions:

The benefits for taking the earlier test is that I get to apply earlier, and also I get to have more time to tailor my application to reflect my scores.

The downside is that if it aint Flex or if the proctor decides that I shouldnt be taking a US session if Im not in the US, well, that would kinda suck.

Would love to hear what people think, and please tear those assumptions apart if its just unwarranted.

I was looking on the LSAT website and I cannot seem to find any form of breakdown of my LSAT Flex score. I was wondering if anyone knows how to see a breakdown of your score or if that is even possible?

Hi! Is there anyway to convert these preptests to Flex? I'd like to practice this shorter version for the July Flex. thank you!

In one of the introductory Main Point/Main Conclusion videos, J.Y. said that new question "types" for LR are created every ten years. I just started studying and am planning on taking the test in early spring 2021. Should I be worried that there will be question "types" on the test that I will not be prepared for since we just entered a new decade?

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In my humble opinion, The Obstacle is the Way by Ryan Holiday should be required reading for LSAT students:

The basic concept is not just about “overcoming obstacles,” but that THE Obstacle, the SPECIFIC Obstacle, is often the key to your solution/path/success.

During my own preparation for the LSAT, I remember having an epiphany about games. Those frustrating, or weird rules or elements of a game, could often be the very key to unlocking the game. You know the rules I'm talking about -- the annoying ones that may not lend themselves to basic diagramming or aren't exactly "user friendly." They're the ones that you maybe want to forget, but you do so at your peril because the game is built on every rule.

I eventually came to find that embracing these "obstacles" was often what unlocked a game for me. For example, it might have led to a key inference or perhaps a way of splitting the game board into scenarios/worlds that made the game click. This realization was instrumental to my growth on games, the LSAT overall, and it's a major element of how I teach my students.

The Obstacle is the Way expands on that theme and helps you create the mindset you need to harness obstacles like in logic games, and overall for the LSAT. (To be clear, it's not written specifically for the LSAT, but it's incredibly helpful and I wish I had it when I was prepping).

The book explains how to cultivate patience when we need it most. It also explains ways to ground yourself in logic and keep a cool head when circumstances can easily rattle most test takers -- as in logic games, time sync LR question, weird RC passages. etc.

I cannot think of a perspective more suited to the temperament an LSAT student needs to cultivate. I’ve read lots of books with similar aims but this is one of the few that both intuitively and practically explains how to stay grounded in crises/obstacles and use them to succeed.

Here's the audio version for convenience while studying:

https://www.audible.com/pd/The-Obstacle-Is-the-Way-Audiobook/B00K252ET8

Hi everyone,

I'm a bit confused about the answer choice D. #help

Premise 1: Each of the EMP winners from the past 25 years covered by Acme retirement plan

Intermediate Conclusion/Premise 2: the Acme Plan offers the winners a financially secure future

Conclusion:It is probably a good plan for anyone with similar retirement needs.

Stem: most vulnerable to criticism

Correct Answer(D): It takes for granted that some winners of the Economic Merit Prize have deliberately selected the Acme retirement plan, rather than having had it chosen for them by their employers.

I think the Intermediate Conclusion does not really follow the Premise 1. But If we should accept all the premises, then we probably need to accept the Intermediate Conclusion. After accepting it, even if these winners have not actively chosen the plan, anyone with similar needs may still be financially benefitted. How does D points out the vulnerability?

Or, maybe we do not need to accept the Intermediate Conclusion, though it's also a premise?

There used to be drilling kits by lr question type from earlier pts do they still have those?

Does anyone have any good tutor recommendations? I'm specifically looking for one for LG and maybe some LR. Any help would be great! Thanks!

I decided to cancel the June LSAT Flex but could not figure out how. There was a withdrawal option on the LSAC website but that option just disappeared. So could somebody tell me how I can cancel the test? Thank you!

Just did the June 2007 test and I am wondering if I can delete S.2 from my analytics as I skipped it in an attempt to replicate the July Flex formate. Thanks.

Hi all, I was hoping to get some opinions/thoughts on the possibility of using 7 sage to study for a test 5 months away.

A little about me, I've taken a test masters class and responded really well to the structure of a class setting, though working as a paralegal in SF I did suffer from not having the time to really get through all the homework and getting the practice in.

I'm hoping to be able to use 7sage to space out the load that I did over 2 months to these 5 months.

Currently, the course planner is telling me that I should study 48 hours a week on average to make it work, but that is definitely not a reality for me as I work full time in a pretty demanding job.

I was hoping to get some ideas/suggestions on how to tackle the course work and how best to use these 5 months.

I would kiss every person working at 7sage if I could. I can't believe my eyes I'm shaking. Thank you for all the resources! When I was completely starting out w/ no idea what to do, this was the site that I found myself on. I doubt I could have pulled it off w/o this place.

Hello All,

I am looking to join an ongoing study group that is preparing for the August exam or anyone that is looking for an accountability partner that can bounce feedback LSAT related on a daily basis. I'm not a natural high scorer by any means but I know with hard work and collaboration with others we can all achieve great things.

Right now I'm trying to get reading comp down pat but am constantly drilling LR/LG daily.

So, I've just taken the May LSAT Flex and I got a 169. My undergrad GPA is 3.82. I was definitely prepping better than a 169 in the weeks leading up to the flex, even getting a 177 the last PT I took before the real thing. I'm sure nerves played a part in my performance. Right now I'm just trying to figure out if I should try to retake it again before applications on the fall or let it ride. I'm worried that a lower score will just do more harm than good and am unsure if my lower quantitative factors combined with what I think are very strong soft factors are enough to get me into the likes of HYS or CCN.

Soft factors: 11 years of service in the Navy as nuclear submarine officer. Studied Nuclear Engineering in undergrad and finished in 3 years while serving as active duty. Tons of arduous professional experience and leadership roles and relatively top performer in my profession. Also, I'm a first generation college grad, only person in my family with a degree.

Any chance that a killer PS with my soft factors could make up for my LSAT and get me into the likes of Harvard or Stanford or Chicago? Advice is greatly appreciated! Thanks guys!

I wanted to reach out to see if there is anyone scoring in the 150s that would interested in free tutoring?

My average PT score is 166.8 and I just registered a 166 on the May Flex. Currently, I am trying to close the gap between timed conditions and BR (consistently mid-high 170s) and, after hearing so much about the benefits of tutoring others, want to give it a shot.

Ideally, we could spend about 2-3 hours/week together on video chat doing a full BR of section(s), reviewing LR or RC problem sets from the core curriculum or diving into individual questions/passages/games. I am studying full-time (also EST) so my schedule is rather flexible but would prefer weekday evenings or anytime Sunday.

Full disclosure - this would be my first time tutoring students for the LSAT (although I do have some previous experience as a paid tutor for other subjects in HS).

If interested, feel free to message me or respond below.