The thing that made this click was breaking this down to form and indicators. You can put anything in the sentence but if I have my indicator and can decipher whats being conditioned for the other, it'll work 99% of the time.
i think i need much more fleshed out definitions of what a sufficient relationship and a necessary relationship are with some examples. Can't seem to wrap my head around the concepts and fully grasp them within the real world.
Question: so sufficient means that it is enough to be something, but it is not necessary. So sufficient means that it can mean something but it won’t always need to have it?
can necessity indicators be thought of as only, always, and must? the only if, only when, only where, seem included under "only". Because only those, only these...etc exist.. it seems like it could be a big group. Or is that too big an assumption to make? I guess "the only" is a sufficiency indicator, but if the claim lacks the "the" in front of "only" is it safe to assume it's a necessary indicator?
I am starting to get this with each passing day. Let's not give up!
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We should use examples from passages. #Feedback
Does anyone have any tips on how to remember which words go with what group?
The thing that made this click was breaking this down to form and indicators. You can put anything in the sentence but if I have my indicator and can decipher whats being conditioned for the other, it'll work 99% of the time.
For Group 3 and 4, does the 'other' idea remain untouched? what is the point of finding the contrapositive then?
i think i need much more fleshed out definitions of what a sufficient relationship and a necessary relationship are with some examples. Can't seem to wrap my head around the concepts and fully grasp them within the real world.
I think it means it is sufficient to make the conclusion true...
like if I am in Austin, then I am in Texas.
Austin is sufficient to guarantee that I'm in Texas.
but Texas does not guarantee I'm in Austin.
but if I am in Austin then it is also necessarily true that I am also in Texas.
he should include examples.
hell yeah
I don't understand the comic
I'm confused on how "the only" in group 1 differs from "only" in group 2. Does anyone have an example of how this works?
What about "no one?" Is that part of group 4 and how would you diagram it? I have some idea of how to do it, but I don't want to be wrong.
For example: No one sleeps in the library.
#feedback having a folder that has all of these diagrams in it? Labeled based on Lesson/Section
love that comic.
Shouldn't never be listed as a logical indicator in group 4 (negate, necessary?)
Anyone else struggling with remembering all of these?
Question: so sufficient means that it is enough to be something, but it is not necessary. So sufficient means that it can mean something but it won’t always need to have it?
#help
can necessity indicators be thought of as only, always, and must? the only if, only when, only where, seem included under "only". Because only those, only these...etc exist.. it seems like it could be a big group. Or is that too big an assumption to make? I guess "the only" is a sufficiency indicator, but if the claim lacks the "the" in front of "only" is it safe to assume it's a necessary indicator?
The reinforcement has me crying.
#feedback maybe there could be examples for each of these types one more time. Just to help reinforce the ideas.
Is "even if" a logical translator? #help
why is "the only" missing as a sufficient indicator in this table?
Group 1: Sufficient Condition
Indicators: if, when, where, all, every, any
If
Example: "If it rains, the ground gets wet."
- Sufficient Condition: It rains
- Necessary Condition: The ground gets wet
- When
Example: "When the sun sets, it gets dark."
- Sufficient Condition: The sun sets
- Necessary Condition: It gets dark
- Where
Example: "Where there is smoke, there is fire."
- Sufficient Condition: There is smoke
- Necessary Condition: There is fire
- All
Example: "All mammals are warm-blooded."
- Sufficient Condition: Being a mammal
- Necessary Condition: Being warm-blooded
- Every
Example: "Every student must submit homework."
- Sufficient Condition: Being a student
- Necessary Condition: Must submit homework
- Any
Example: "Any person can learn to code."
- Sufficient Condition: Being a person
- Necessary Condition: Can learn to code
Group 2: Necessary Condition
Indicators: only, only if, only when, only where, always, must
- Only
Example: "Only graduates can attend the ceremony."
- Sufficient Condition: Can attend the ceremony
- Necessary Condition: Being a graduate
- Only if
Example: "You can drive only if you have a license."
- Sufficient Condition: Can drive
- Necessary Condition: Have a license
- Only when
Example: "The alarm rings only when there is a fire."
- Sufficient Condition: The alarm rings
- Necessary Condition: There is a fire
- Only where
Example: "Success is found only where hard work is done."
- Sufficient Condition: Success is found
- Necessary Condition: Hard work is done
- Always
Example: "Honesty is always the best policy."
- Sufficient Condition: Honesty
- Necessary Condition: Best policy
- Must
Example: "You must study to pass the exam."
- Sufficient Condition: Pass the exam
- Necessary Condition: Study
Group 3: Negate and Sufficient Condition
Indicators: or, unless, until, without
- Or
Example: "You can have cake or ice cream."
- Pick either idea: Have cake
- Negate: Don't have cake
- Sufficient Condition: Don't have cake
- Necessary Condition: Have ice cream
- Unless
Example: "You cannot enter unless you have a ticket."
- Pick either idea: Have a ticket
- Negate: Don't have a ticket
- Sufficient Condition: Don't have a ticket
- Necessary Condition: Cannot enter
- Until
Example: "You cannot leave until you finish your work."
- Pick either idea: Finish your work
- Negate: Don't finish your work
- Sufficient Condition: Don't finish your work
- Necessary Condition: Cannot leave
- Without
Example: "You cannot succeed without effort."
- Pick either idea: Effort
- Negate: No effort
- Sufficient Condition: No effort
- Necessary Condition: Cannot succeed
Group 4: Negate and Necessary Condition
Indicators: no, none, not both, cannot
- No
Example: "No student can leave early."
- Pick either idea: Student can leave early
- Negate: Student cannot leave early
- Sufficient Condition: Being a student
- Necessary Condition: Cannot leave early
- None
Example: "None of the lights are on."
- Pick either idea: Lights are on
- Negate: Lights are not on
- Sufficient Condition: Lights
- Necessary Condition: Not on
- Not both
Example: "You cannot be both a manager and a worker."
- Pick either idea: Be a manager
- Negate: Not a manager
- Sufficient Condition: Be a worker
- Necessary Condition: Not a manager
- Cannot
Example: "A square cannot be a circle."
- Pick either idea: Square
- Negate: Not a square
- Sufficient Condition: Be a circle
- Necessary Condition: Not a square
Are we not getting videos anymore? They were very helpful
I love CCv2, but please bring back the conditional indicator flashcards from CCv1-those were gold.
#admin #feedback
I am starting to get this with each passing day. Let's not give up!