I'm still confused with the order on some of these. For the most part it seems the first clause is on the left side of the arrow, but some aren't like that and make less sense to me.
The thing that made this click was breaking this down to form and indicators. You can put anything in the sentence but if I have my indicator and can decipher whats being conditioned for the other, it'll work 99% of the time.
i think i need much more fleshed out definitions of what a sufficient relationship and a necessary relationship are with some examples. Can't seem to wrap my head around the concepts and fully grasp them within the real world.
Question: so sufficient means that it is enough to be something, but it is not necessary. So sufficient means that it can mean something but it won’t always need to have it?
can necessity indicators be thought of as only, always, and must? the only if, only when, only where, seem included under "only". Because only those, only these...etc exist.. it seems like it could be a big group. Or is that too big an assumption to make? I guess "the only" is a sufficiency indicator, but if the claim lacks the "the" in front of "only" is it safe to assume it's a necessary indicator?
#feedback maybe there could be examples for each of these types one more time. Just to help reinforce the ideas.
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I'm back reviewing these after getting one shotted by MBT questions
I'm still confused with the order on some of these. For the most part it seems the first clause is on the left side of the arrow, but some aren't like that and make less sense to me.
what is the formula for a sufficient v a necessary condition?
If you don't read the comic, you're missing out.
It would be great if the diagram had one example for each group. #feedback
Lowkey this one was really confusing :/
We should use examples from passages. #Feedback
Does anyone have any tips on how to remember which words go with what group?
The thing that made this click was breaking this down to form and indicators. You can put anything in the sentence but if I have my indicator and can decipher whats being conditioned for the other, it'll work 99% of the time.
For Group 3 and 4, does the 'other' idea remain untouched? what is the point of finding the contrapositive then?
i think i need much more fleshed out definitions of what a sufficient relationship and a necessary relationship are with some examples. Can't seem to wrap my head around the concepts and fully grasp them within the real world.
I think it means it is sufficient to make the conclusion true...
like if I am in Austin, then I am in Texas.
Austin is sufficient to guarantee that I'm in Texas.
but Texas does not guarantee I'm in Austin.
but if I am in Austin then it is also necessarily true that I am also in Texas.
he should include examples.
hell yeah
I don't understand the comic
I'm confused on how "the only" in group 1 differs from "only" in group 2. Does anyone have an example of how this works?
What about "no one?" Is that part of group 4 and how would you diagram it? I have some idea of how to do it, but I don't want to be wrong.
For example: No one sleeps in the library.
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love that comic.
Shouldn't never be listed as a logical indicator in group 4 (negate, necessary?)
Anyone else struggling with remembering all of these?
Question: so sufficient means that it is enough to be something, but it is not necessary. So sufficient means that it can mean something but it won’t always need to have it?
#help
can necessity indicators be thought of as only, always, and must? the only if, only when, only where, seem included under "only". Because only those, only these...etc exist.. it seems like it could be a big group. Or is that too big an assumption to make? I guess "the only" is a sufficiency indicator, but if the claim lacks the "the" in front of "only" is it safe to assume it's a necessary indicator?
The reinforcement has me crying.
#feedback maybe there could be examples for each of these types one more time. Just to help reinforce the ideas.