i got it wrong on actual attempt as well as blind review. i am gonna have to come back to this later a few times to review and remember how i got tricked twice
but if joggers get hurt, then start stretching, why tf would they keep stretching if it doesnt do jackshit? this makes absolutely no sense and i cant stand this
@GDatria715 No they're saying that for the stretching group, those joggers might already be more prone to injury to begin with, not that the stretching does nothing.
So like say they would normally have like 10 injuries over the course of a year. But then they start adding stretching to their routine like the stim describes, and now they're only getting like 5 injuries a year.
Yeah, 5 injuries is still a lot, which makes it seem like the stretching doesn't work. However, when you compare it to the 10 injuries a year, 5 is looking pretty good. Thus showing that the stretching could help prevent injuries, which weakens the stim's conclusion that stretching doesn't help.
Hi! I got the correct answer, but I wanted to clarify my thinking. For the weaken experiment questions are we trying to figure out/find the AC that proves the stimulus hypothesis wrong? For instance, he is saying stretching doesn’t have an effect, so I should look for something that says stretching does actually have an effect? Thank you!
@Isabella! Also, are we supposed to assume that unless they specifically state in the stimulus "random large selection for the control and treatment group" that they didn't do so, and this could be a flaw in the argument (if presented as an answer choice)?
@Isabella! NOT "proves the stimulus hypothesis wrong". WEAKENS the hypothesis. Maybe the hypothesis is still true, but we have given a valid reason to call it into question. ie, weakend it. So don't rule out an answer options just because it does not definitively rule out the hypothesis.
Hard question. Rare case of outside knowledge being harmful. In this case I knew intuitively that experiments structured like this are prone to errors due to the bias in who performs the activity tending to be people who experience the effect you're looking for, but did not actually understand why the answer I chose was correct.
I've noticed a couple of questions where the writers will prey on the scientific intuition of STEM majors and this one threw me for a loop because it was exactly what I thought.
@ClarEmile What? You were confused because you knew the answer? Also a STEM major, and also knew intuitively that was one of the flaws with this type of study, so went into hunt mode, found it, and got it done much under time. Don't be afraid to use your outside knowledge. Unless the question painstakingly builds a hypothetical world which differs from ours, then you can absolutely use real-world knowledge to avoid naive assumptions. Its an advantage, not a hinderance.
I didn't even have to waste time on the other answers. Skimmed them maybe, but was able to find a very strong weakness of the study, and move one. Take advantage of that.
Me and my cat celebrating in my room after I get a difficulty 5 question right(I used POE and was highly skeptical of the answer that was left but YOLO)
I chose C Because I said to myself: Most doesn't equal All. So the remaining injuries could very likely be joint or tightness injuries which flexibility from stretching will help. I confused possibility logic with argument impact logic. I should have just focused on what was stated in the choice. Great question to learn from!!!
I'm going to be 100% honest, I used chat GPT to help me understand this better Lol.. and it truly did help. I got it right in BR, wrong first attempt. I understood the stimulus, it's the AC's that were throwing me completely off.
maybe this is me trying to cope but the only reason I got this one wrong was because, for some reason, in the middle of reading the answer choices, my brain switched to "you're finding a strengthener", chose C, and I just ran with it like ohhhhh brotherrrr
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I don't understand how D is an alternative explanation tbh
i got it wrong on actual attempt as well as blind review. i am gonna have to come back to this later a few times to review and remember how i got tricked twice
but if joggers get hurt, then start stretching, why tf would they keep stretching if it doesnt do jackshit? this makes absolutely no sense and i cant stand this
@GDatria715 No they're saying that for the stretching group, those joggers might already be more prone to injury to begin with, not that the stretching does nothing.
So like say they would normally have like 10 injuries over the course of a year. But then they start adding stretching to their routine like the stim describes, and now they're only getting like 5 injuries a year.
Yeah, 5 injuries is still a lot, which makes it seem like the stretching doesn't work. However, when you compare it to the 10 injuries a year, 5 is looking pretty good. Thus showing that the stretching could help prevent injuries, which weakens the stim's conclusion that stretching doesn't help.
nothing hurts more than watching a review of your answer choice and hearing him say "this answer is wrong for sooo many ways" lmaooo
I can do all RRE Q but this is killing me
i am irritated. (i picked c)
Finally
If you chose C, I can definitely see why. I liked C and D and thought D was a better fit.
Got it on BR. Gotta be careful about making hidden assumptions!
I messed up cause i missed "habitually" in the stimulus :(
@KaylenRodriguez yah, the groups aren’t selected at random. Different populations- not a clean experiment.
Was briefly tempted by A but got it right and under time LEZZ GOOOOOOO
Hi! I got the correct answer, but I wanted to clarify my thinking. For the weaken experiment questions are we trying to figure out/find the AC that proves the stimulus hypothesis wrong? For instance, he is saying stretching doesn’t have an effect, so I should look for something that says stretching does actually have an effect? Thank you!
@Isabella! Also, are we supposed to assume that unless they specifically state in the stimulus "random large selection for the control and treatment group" that they didn't do so, and this could be a flaw in the argument (if presented as an answer choice)?
@Isabella! NOT "proves the stimulus hypothesis wrong". WEAKENS the hypothesis. Maybe the hypothesis is still true, but we have given a valid reason to call it into question. ie, weakend it. So don't rule out an answer options just because it does not definitively rule out the hypothesis.
Hard question. Rare case of outside knowledge being harmful. In this case I knew intuitively that experiments structured like this are prone to errors due to the bias in who performs the activity tending to be people who experience the effect you're looking for, but did not actually understand why the answer I chose was correct.
I've noticed a couple of questions where the writers will prey on the scientific intuition of STEM majors and this one threw me for a loop because it was exactly what I thought.
@ClarEmile What? You were confused because you knew the answer? Also a STEM major, and also knew intuitively that was one of the flaws with this type of study, so went into hunt mode, found it, and got it done much under time. Don't be afraid to use your outside knowledge. Unless the question painstakingly builds a hypothetical world which differs from ours, then you can absolutely use real-world knowledge to avoid naive assumptions. Its an advantage, not a hinderance.
I didn't even have to waste time on the other answers. Skimmed them maybe, but was able to find a very strong weakness of the study, and move one. Take advantage of that.
This one was really difficult. I'm getting all the weaken questions wrong :( I chose C
Oh man not my STEM degree coming in handy.
I chose C Because I said to myself: Most doesn't equal All. So the remaining injuries could very likely be joint or tightness injuries which flexibility from stretching will help. I confused possibility logic with argument impact logic. I should have just focused on what was stated in the choice. Great question to learn from!!!
:( I chose C
@amara C is temping but strengthens the argument (it wouldn't matter anyways) instead of weaken it
I'm going to be 100% honest, I used chat GPT to help me understand this better Lol.. and it truly did help. I got it right in BR, wrong first attempt. I understood the stimulus, it's the AC's that were throwing me completely off.
At least my stem background helps with these questions
@ArdenAmarelo And my philosophy background helped me with this.
@suhyahn My finance background is crying in the back.
Wow this question was really hard for me. First time I got both regular and BR wrong
maybe this is me trying to cope but the only reason I got this one wrong was because, for some reason, in the middle of reading the answer choices, my brain switched to "you're finding a strengthener", chose C, and I just ran with it like ohhhhh brotherrrr
@xyzana I do this all the time. Its the biggest weakness I have right now. Especially the EXCEPT questions
Fun Question. Not too bad.
This feels like a bad joke
i got it right through process of elimination