I had the argument structure down but got the AC wrong for actual take and correct in BR. but i do not fully understand why. The wording in these AC's really messed me up.
Sufficient Assumption questions feel tricky because the right answer always triggers the part of my brain that says "nope that would be too easy that can't be the right answer"
YESSSSS finished with 29 seconds to spare. Looked at the conclusion, asked myself "What do I need to assume for this to be true?"
I told myself "Oh I would need to assume that when people say Love in this context, that they don't MEAN the promise. But they could! They totally could MEAN and INTEND a promise even if when parsing it out logically, it doesn't make sense. So I need to ASSUME that somehow you shouldn't take Love in this context to refer to feelings, if someone makes a promise that doesn't hold up logically (makes no sense)"
Because I've definitely made promises that I've later realized made no sense, doesn't mean I didn't mean it that way.
ughhhh i keep getting it wrong at first but get it right in the blind review. It took me 45 seconds to choose B then about a minute and a half to choose D
My brain is getting better at recognizing that when they keep reusing very specific phrases they are cluing you in that you are supposed to use that as one of the terms to connect to the conclusion. "makes sense" appeared way too many times for it to be unimportant
Not sure why these "harder difficulty" ones are much easier for me than the easy ones...
i was stuck on D for so long and then I went with C, I'm mad.
I think I'm realizing that my problem is correctly identifying where the gap is. When I identify it correctly, I generally get them right, but when I don't I'm way off.
The only reason I got this question right was because I wrote out the premises' conditionals and the conclusion's conditional like you taught us. Doing that made me notice the giant hole in the major premise's support for the conclusion. It would've never clicked for me otherwise.
Major Premise: Love-Feeling -> /PromiseSense
Conclusion: /Love-Feeling
Only way to get to conclusion (i.e., which sufficient condition leads to this conclusion)? Contrapositive of Major Premise: PromiseSense -> /Love-Feeling
@gabs I noticed B just restated a premise when writing out the conditionals of the minor premises (/promise-control), and the restating of a premise is never the correct answer for these.
D doesn't overtly add the conclusion to its sufficient condition, but it doesn't have to. That's also why this question was so difficult. We're used to "sufficient (premise), then necessary (conclusion)" in the answer choices. But sometimes the correct answer just gives the sufficient and you have to link it to the conclusion yourself.
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This one got me, but I understand why the wrong answer is wrong and why D makes sense.
yea this one was difficult
ooof this one was rough
this one got me chat but that breakdown helps
did anyone try to do conditional formulas for this one lol
Too many of these answer choices made sense to me ughhh
I had the argument structure down but got the AC wrong for actual take and correct in BR. but i do not fully understand why. The wording in these AC's really messed me up.
I did not understand this at all
@MarieChavis same, even with his explanation
What the heck was this question man...
Horrible
Got it wrong at first and right in my BR because i went "ohhhhh that makes more sense".
@ Same I think I was just to fast to answer at first without really thinking through the question.
@jrm98 were you able to understand why your actual take answer choice was wrong?
Sufficient Assumption questions feel tricky because the right answer always triggers the part of my brain that says "nope that would be too easy that can't be the right answer"
Got it wrong first try but in the blind review I saw my mistake and chose the right answer I'm taking that as a win lol
YESSSSS finished with 29 seconds to spare. Looked at the conclusion, asked myself "What do I need to assume for this to be true?"
I told myself "Oh I would need to assume that when people say Love in this context, that they don't MEAN the promise. But they could! They totally could MEAN and INTEND a promise even if when parsing it out logically, it doesn't make sense. So I need to ASSUME that somehow you shouldn't take Love in this context to refer to feelings, if someone makes a promise that doesn't hold up logically (makes no sense)"
Because I've definitely made promises that I've later realized made no sense, doesn't mean I didn't mean it that way.
ughhhh i keep getting it wrong at first but get it right in the blind review. It took me 45 seconds to choose B then about a minute and a half to choose D
wow this section of 'you try' is humbling me
My brain is getting better at recognizing that when they keep reusing very specific phrases they are cluing you in that you are supposed to use that as one of the terms to connect to the conclusion. "makes sense" appeared way too many times for it to be unimportant
Not sure why these "harder difficulty" ones are much easier for me than the easy ones...
uhhh was rocking this section until this q :(
@cherry same cherry
FML
The broader the answer the closer it is to being the correct answer--answer choices that mirror the stimulus too closely are often traps!!!
darn///retook it 3-4 times and managed to get it wrong that many times--oh my brain where art thou
Man. I completely missed the "no sense" part and chose B like an IDIOT! I have to learn to read the entire question.
i was stuck on D for so long and then I went with C, I'm mad.
I think I'm realizing that my problem is correctly identifying where the gap is. When I identify it correctly, I generally get them right, but when I don't I'm way off.
The only reason I got this question right was because I wrote out the premises' conditionals and the conclusion's conditional like you taught us. Doing that made me notice the giant hole in the major premise's support for the conclusion. It would've never clicked for me otherwise.
Major Premise: Love-Feeling -> /PromiseSense
Conclusion: /Love-Feeling
Only way to get to conclusion (i.e., which sufficient condition leads to this conclusion)? Contrapositive of Major Premise: PromiseSense -> /Love-Feeling
Oh, that's D!
Insane Question.
@gabs I noticed B just restated a premise when writing out the conditionals of the minor premises (/promise-control), and the restating of a premise is never the correct answer for these.
D doesn't overtly add the conclusion to its sufficient condition, but it doesn't have to. That's also why this question was so difficult. We're used to "sufficient (premise), then necessary (conclusion)" in the answer choices. But sometimes the correct answer just gives the sufficient and you have to link it to the conclusion yourself.
@gabs this just made me get it thank u slime