Another Question: I have extra time on my test. With this extra time is it worth it to then write these down? Obviously for me the extra time is largely due to ADHD and just struggling to sit and remember things but does that mean my timing strategy should focus on making better notes?
Edit: when I say timing strategy I mean for the additional time (I get 70 min not 35 per passage) what would be the most optimal use of that extra 35 min?
In the other videos he commented that high scorers do it mentally but that we can try writing a few words down in the beginning. Just that writing will take time during the actual test.
Hi Kevin! Thank you for your lesson. I have a quick question - should we also write down the main point while taking the test timed? Or, is this something we keep note of in our head?
@mirabellebaer It's best to just keep the main point in your mind. If you do write something down, don't feel like you need to write a full sentence with proper grammar. That can take a bit too long.
This course is such a godsend. I’ve been in so many LSAT programs and none nearly broke it down as comprehensively and methodically as this. I thought it was me but it was the lack of a well-developed curriculum. This is great.
hi Kevin, when you say we have to revisit the low res passage and revisit the text, do you do that in the 3.5 min? Or is the first read 3.5? or the whole thing (read and questions)?Thanks
@virginie.delwart This is just for the passage read, not the questions.
On average, the read of the passage + any other reflecting/thinking during and after the passage is about 3.5 minutes, for high-scorers in RC. Some will spend a bit more on average, others a bit less, but it's going to be around 3 to 3.5 If you're spending less than 2 minutes on average for the passage read before going to the questions, that's almost certainly too fast. If you're spending more than 4.5 minutes on average reading the passage before going to the questions, that's probably too slow.
We should actually be doing this on the test, too. As you get practice with the process, it will eventually become an automatic part of how you read a passage. It shouldn't take more than 5-10 seconds to summarize a typical paragraph. Often shorter, since you'll have already been thinking about the big picture point and purpose of the paragraph as you read it.
For the read of the passage, including time spent thinking about the low-res summary and the main point, most high-scorers probably average about 3.5 minutes. For easier passages, the whole process might take only 2 to 2.5 minutes. For harder passages it might take up to 4, sometimes even 4.5.
Do you recommend reading the questions first and then reading the text? I just remember this is what they would always teach us when doing state standardized tests to have an idea of what to look for.
No, as you do more passages you'll have a strong sense of what you'll be asked about just from reading the passage. I think looking at the Qs ahead of time will be more of a waste of time. However, I'm all for experimentation -- if you suspect it might help, maybe you can try that startegy out on a few RC sections and see how it compares.
Kevin I am just going to say I really like your voice and delivery cadence. No offense to JY but you have a more clear and concise way of covering material. I really appreciate it.
Mine is Saturday! But I'm retaking it in October if need be, so I'll have plentyyy of time to practice this if I need to (hopefully neither of us have to though). Good luck on your test, you've got it!
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So far I love it but I know I'll regret saying this once I see the questions
Another Question: I have extra time on my test. With this extra time is it worth it to then write these down? Obviously for me the extra time is largely due to ADHD and just struggling to sit and remember things but does that mean my timing strategy should focus on making better notes?
Edit: when I say timing strategy I mean for the additional time (I get 70 min not 35 per passage) what would be the most optimal use of that extra 35 min?
Should I write those low res summary down when reading, or should I try to keep track of them in my mind?
In the other videos he commented that high scorers do it mentally but that we can try writing a few words down in the beginning. Just that writing will take time during the actual test.
Hi Kevin! Thank you for your lesson. I have a quick question - should we also write down the main point while taking the test timed? Or, is this something we keep note of in our head?
@mirabellebaer It's best to just keep the main point in your mind. If you do write something down, don't feel like you need to write a full sentence with proper grammar. That can take a bit too long.
This course is such a godsend. I’ve been in so many LSAT programs and none nearly broke it down as comprehensively and methodically as this. I thought it was me but it was the lack of a well-developed curriculum. This is great.
hi Kevin, when you say we have to revisit the low res passage and revisit the text, do you do that in the 3.5 min? Or is the first read 3.5? or the whole thing (read and questions)?Thanks
@virginie.delwart This is just for the passage read, not the questions.
On average, the read of the passage + any other reflecting/thinking during and after the passage is about 3.5 minutes, for high-scorers in RC. Some will spend a bit more on average, others a bit less, but it's going to be around 3 to 3.5 If you're spending less than 2 minutes on average for the passage read before going to the questions, that's almost certainly too fast. If you're spending more than 4.5 minutes on average reading the passage before going to the questions, that's probably too slow.
On the actual test is it possible to highlight the text and write in the margins?
you can highlight the text, you cannot write in the margins though. You will get some paper you can write on!
Hi Kevin! Thank you for your lessons! A few quick Qs for you:
- Is this more of a drill or should we be making low res summaries on the actual LSAT too?
- And about how long should we aim to spend on the summaries?
-And then how long on actually reading the passage?
We should actually be doing this on the test, too. As you get practice with the process, it will eventually become an automatic part of how you read a passage. It shouldn't take more than 5-10 seconds to summarize a typical paragraph. Often shorter, since you'll have already been thinking about the big picture point and purpose of the paragraph as you read it.
For the read of the passage, including time spent thinking about the low-res summary and the main point, most high-scorers probably average about 3.5 minutes. For easier passages, the whole process might take only 2 to 2.5 minutes. For harder passages it might take up to 4, sometimes even 4.5.
Thank you so much!!
Do you recommend reading the questions first and then reading the text? I just remember this is what they would always teach us when doing state standardized tests to have an idea of what to look for.
I am also curious about this question 🙋
No, as you do more passages you'll have a strong sense of what you'll be asked about just from reading the passage. I think looking at the Qs ahead of time will be more of a waste of time. However, I'm all for experimentation -- if you suspect it might help, maybe you can try that startegy out on a few RC sections and see how it compares.
Kevin I am just going to say I really like your voice and delivery cadence. No offense to JY but you have a more clear and concise way of covering material. I really appreciate it.
Same
how can we write our low rez summaries effectively during the test? does the software allow for that?
#feedback
These are things we should just keep in our minds. Some like to jot a few words on scratch paper (which we will be allowed to use on test day).
so hard to find these passages interesting I zoned out several times. fml
Anyone else cramming for their Wednesday test hahahaah! Taking it again in September, so I will be sure to get these lessons done before then.
Mine is in September and I'm retaking it in October if need be. I'm so glad I'll have enough time to get through this haha. Good luck on your tests!!
I'm taking mine in October and feel like I don't have enough time to get through these lessons and do drills, but good luck on your test!
cramming for the friday test lol but I'll be taking it in again in january if need be
Mine is Saturday! But I'm retaking it in October if need be, so I'll have plentyyy of time to practice this if I need to (hopefully neither of us have to though). Good luck on your test, you've got it!
I feel this too. I need to LOCK IN
Def feeling this too
Your username will soon be reality :D