Hi, I recently got my score for the September 2023 LSAT (I just finished the writing section) and I am wondering if I should cancel it. I got a 165, however, I am retaking the test this August (2024) and again this September. I have recently been testing in the high 160's and low 170's and so I was wondering if I should cancel the 165 or just let it stay. I would really appreciate the advice!

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Not sure if "taking a cut" is exactly how the policy works. I've heard having a BL summer associate salary will affect how you receive need-based aid, or that the salary is not fully yours.

I heard this a while back about Harvard and then again on social media a couple weeks ago about Harvard, YLS, and Stanford. I don't really know the specifics.

Does anyone know which law schools do this and how it works?

I decided to take a gap year at the last minute after my recommenders had already submitted my letters of rec into LSAC. Can I still use these letters when applying for the next cycle or should I get them updated. Idk what to do because one was a professor I haven’t had for awhile so there isn’t anything to update and one is from an internship I had for a semester where there also isn’t anything to update anymore.

Hi all,

Question regarding study abroad grades. I was in undergrad at a Canadian university and studied abroad for one semester in France through my schools program.

In my transcripts these grades just show up as credits (signifying pass because it was pass/fail).

However, I do have the transcript for my actual grades (based on a scale out of 20).

Do these actual grades get calculated into my LSAC GPA? Does anyone know if I have to submit these grades?

I keep seeing mixed things online and cannot find a clear answer.

Please let me know!

Hello. I have noticed that the Law School Admissions Predictor appears to overestimate my chances of getting into some of the listed law schools. For example, there is one school in which I supposedly have a 69% chance (likely target) of getting accepted, although I am below both medians for LSAT and GPA. With this in mind, should I continue to utilize the Law School Admissions Predictor in narrowing down the list of law schools that I should apply to this fall?

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It’s safe to say that my GPA isn’t the greatest, and it’s mediocre at best. I finished college with a 3.3 GPA in Political Science, albeit with an upward trend where I was on academic probation the first year of college. I am hoping to achieve a 160 on the LSAT with one year of studying. Does anyone else have a similar GPA with a success story? I’m really hoping I am not putting in work to realize that my chances at law school are bleak. I know the acceptance predictor exists, but I have a hard time believing how accurate it is.

Thanks everyone

Throughout my time studying for the LSAT, drafting my law school application materials, and simply trying to find the motivation to continue on when the going got rough, I feel like I need to share my journey to law school story with others on here who may be experiencing the same things I once felt. I found these post to be extremely helpful when I was going through every stage of applying to law school, so hopefully this will help someone else too!

Over the past two years I have spent hundreds of hours studying for the LSAT, taking it a whopping four times, to only score a 158 on my highest attempt. Don't get me wrong, this is a GREAT score, so please do NOT feel discouraged if you are scoring in this range! I am grateful for this score, however, I feel like it did not display my true academic, or LSAT potential. Unfortunately for me, I ran into countless difficulties every time I took the test. Whether it was issues with proctors interrupting and closing out my test, unable to access the online exam, and even having my wifi cutting out during the exam, I believed these issues played a big role in me not being able to perform to my test average and because of this I felt like I was not going to get into the schools I was hoping for, let alone with a scholarship.

In November I finished up applying to all the law schools I was interested in (about 15), most of which my LSAT was below the 50th percentile, even the 25th for some. But regardless of my LSAT score, I was confident in my application as a whole and knew that deep down my GPA, resume, and essays had a good shot at making up for my LSAT score. I believed in the quality of my application and I was hopeful that the admissions committee would see this as well.

As of today, I have received my first FULL RIDE scholarship to a T-30 school where I was below the 25th percentile for the LSAT. Even without this full ride offer, I have been accepted into many good schools with great scholarship offers. Had I listened to reddit or others on the internet who told me to not even bother applying, I would have found myself in a very different situation.

I'm writing this all to say please do not give up or count yourself out, regardless of what others have to say. Shoot your shot and don't tell yourself no, let the school tell you no. Hopefully this is motivating for those who find themselves in a similar situation. If anyone wants to know more about my LSAT/application process please feel free to message me!

This coming fall, I am going to be applying to law schools. I have recently written my personal statement, and I am ready to begin writing "Why X?" essays and supplemental essays. I have heard it is important to get in contact with alumni, professors, or current students of certain schools to include that you have spoken to them in those supplemental essays. Does anyone have advice on how to reach out to people to get information? Thanks.

My lsac gpa (if I calculated correctly) is much higher than the 75th percentile of most top schools, but I've been PTing in the high 160s/low 170s. I'm taking the exam in October and planning on applying in November. Right now, my top schools are Columbia (ED), NYU, UChicago, Michigan, Northwestern, and Georgetown. Would my GPA (and other things like leadership, job experience) be enough to balance out my lower LSAT score?

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I have added my Bachelor's and other institutions I have attended to the LSAC and sent my transcripts for all of them. I would like to know whether I should also add a diploma program I took.

For context, I am a Canadian applicant and have not received a degree from my other institutes (mainly just transfer courses I took and one graduate program I dropped out of). I just finished the diploma program so I have not yet graduated from it (finished all my courses but graduation is next year).

173 scorer. Shooting for T14. Anyone interested in an admissions discord group for accountability? Looking for people shooting for similar schools.

I just had a few questions regarding applications, the application cycle and when the best time to apply is. I am planning to take my first LSAT in August and also plan to take another one in October. The reasoning behind this is that if I don't like ny August score, I still have the opportunity to take another test and get the scores back before November. If I end up using my October score, is it too late in the application cycle to start applying on the first of November? Please let me know if my line of thinking makes sense and if I should make any changes. I am currently studying 2-3 hours daily for the past 2 months almost.

I am currently enrolled at a law school (set to come in Fall 2024), but I am thinking of deferring because of life circumstances that have come up. Deferring would mean that I would have to withdraw all of my applications from places I have been waitlisted at, some of which are schools that are my top choices. In addition, I would not be able to reapply to other schools while deferred, this makes total sense to me. However, if I were to in the future decide I would like to apply to other schools, would I be able to withdraw from the law school I deferred and then apply or would I not be allowed to do this?

My agreement obviously does not comment on withdrawing and then applying to other schools and I have not found a resource out there that provides this type of information.

The deferral form I would sign says "I will not apply to other law schools while holding a deferral " so I am wondering if I were to withdraw, could I then apply to law schools because I wouldn't be bonded by the contract anymore?

I figure this is because it’s a tricky route to take. Would appreciate any of your advice. Thank you!

My GPA is 2.6 and my June LSAT score is a 176, 4 yrs WE. My dream school is USC. I am having trouble figuring out what to do with my ED. Is there a point to apply ED to UCI as a safer option? Would EDing USC be a waste considering my GPA? I wouldn’t mind being admitted to either school, I just want to maximize my chances.

I understand most law schools require two, but will accept up to four LORs. Assuming I have four different recommenders that can write me a solid recommendation, is there any downside to submitting the maximum allowed letters?

First some context.

My top school is the law school associated with the college I went for Undergrad.

My college is also in my hometown, and I have extremely close ties to the college (I was going to football games, baseball games, and other events they've had before I could walk).

I graduated in 2022 and now live on the other side of the country working for a nonprofit.

Should my Personal Statement be how I want to go home, which is true, study law there, and all of that. Or. Focus not on my desire to go back but rather my experiences post-grad?

Thank you all!!

Hello all,

I am a competitive powerlifter and feel this makes my application stand out a little. Would asking my coach for a letter of rec be appropriate? She

I'm starting late and planned on taking the test in October to be in the earlier pool of applicants. My GPA is 3.73 before uGPA and raw diagnostic was 148. Because my stats aren't great, I feel like applying early is my only shot. Do I even have a chance?

In my freshman year of college, during the first week, I received a citation for underage drinking and a code of conduct violation from my school for the same incident. Although I hired a lawyer, went to court, and successfully got the charge dropped and expunged from my permanent record, I am still required to disclose both the code of conduct violation and the citation to schools. Has anyone had experience with a similar situation? Im afraid top schools will view me negatively due to these actions.

Hello! I have already secured the LoRs for the upcoming application cycle. Do we need to wait until the cycle begins to enter recommender information and ask them to upload letters? Or can the recommenders upload the letters now, and the letters can be used in the upcoming cycle? Thank you!

I currently attend a very small (~1,500 students) relatively unknown liberal arts college in Kentucky, and I'm wondering how admissions counselors at large, out-of-state law schools will view me because of it. My college is too small to have enough data for LSAC to calculate LSAT and GPA distributions/averages, so admissions counselors may have less data to compare me with in my file.

Hey guys! What are the odds that the optional essays listed for each school on 7sage will change from last cycle to this upcoming cycle? Is it worth it to go ahead and write out responses to them for my top schools to allow me to apply as soon as the application opens or are they likely to change significantly? (Ex: Duke's short answer essay list) Thanks!

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