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I just wanted to take a few moments to praise 7Sage, the Admissions Course and especially the Personal Statement editing session. I spent so much time scouring the internet to find the right way to study for the LSAT and the right way to get the best application possible and wasn't finding anything I felt would actually work for me, until I found 7Sage. While my LSAT score was rather unimpressive, it was definitely an improvement from where I was when I started, 7Sage helped me understand the LSAT and helped me score pretty highly on practice tests. I choked and panicked when it came to the real thing (entirely my fault), but I was intent on applying with my low score anyway. With the help of the Admissions Course, I was able to form an overall great application, and I believe my personal statement is what made my application stand out. After just the one editing session I purchased on here, my PS looked 100x better.

In short: 7Sage, and @"david.busis" helped get me into my dream school, Emory, even when LSAC gave me less than a 10% chance of getting in, so thank you so much!

As I have posted before, I was accepted into the University Chicago but it doesn't look like I'm going to have much help financially. However, I have received full ride offers from Chicago Kent, Michigan State, DePaul, and Indiana McKinney. I have also gotten into a couple of top 25 schools but I am facing a similar dilemma. My ultimate goal is to get into big law and I have been told that if I graduate in the top 5% at a tier 2 school then that shouldn't be a problem. Curves matter to me too and I also want to take that into consideration when choosing a school

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Last comment thursday, mar 09 2017

Wait-listed procedure?

Hey guys,

Just got a response from Baylor that I have been wait-listed due to lack of seat availability for the fall semester. They gave me the offer of being automatically accepted for the spring semester if I reapply, but that's a ways away. Does anyone know what the usual protocol for being waitlisted is? Is it a toss- up, basically a zero chance, or somewhere in between?

You can find the entire article here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2017/03/08/harvard-law-school-will-no-longer-require-the-lsat-for-admission/?utm_term=.6851f69ab16d

Pretty surprised. What do you think this might mean? Will other schools adopt a similar policy? I've heard the GRE isn't quite as challenging as the LSAT... By potentially broadening the student applicant base, will this negatively affect those who take the LSAT?

Hello fellow 7Sagers!

This is a question for all those of you going through the application cycle right now, or who have already gone through it.

How do you go about negotiating scholarships?

So far I have gotten accepted into a couple of schools. One particular school I am looking at attending, got my acceptance about a month ago, but no offer of scholarships so far. Another school accepted me a couple of weeks ago, is about in the same ranking and offered me a scholarship (merit-based).

Now my question is, should I wait to see what the other school (the one I'd like to attend) will offer me based on need-based scholarship? Or should I give them a call, let them know that I really want to attend their school but that this other school has offered me x amount of dollars in merit-based scholarship money and that I wanted to see if they could match it since scholarship money is really important to me?

I know deposits are due mid-April and I'll have to make a choice sooner than later, but I'm just not exactly sure how to go about this whole scholarship conversation.

Thank you for reading and any input you have! :)

Percent of grads in 100 largest law firms

  • Columbia 57.07%
  • Chicago 48.84%
  • Northwestern 47.58%
  • Cornell 47.54%
  • NYU 47.42%
  • Duke 45.50%
  • UVA 44.85%
  • Penn 42.81%
  • Harvard 42.81%
  • Stanford 39.34%
  • Berkeley 36.25%
  • GULC 29.86%
  • Vanderbilt 29.67%
  • Michigan 28.75%
  • UCLA 27.22%
  • Yale 26.34%
  • BC 25.11%
  • USC 25.00%
  • UT 24.65%
  • Fordham 23.44%
  • Notre Dame 21.39%
  • BU 20.54%
  • GWU 17.27%
  • WUSTL 17.26%
  • Illinois 14.46%
  • Emory 13.33%
  • UNC 12.61%
  • University of Washington 12.42%
  • Hastings 11.96%
  • W&M 10.96%
  • UC Davis 10.87%
  • Howard 10.56%
  • Loyola Chicago 10.53%
  • Ohio State 10.06%
  • Temple 9.90%
  • UGA 9.60%
  • Pitt 9.14%
  • St. John's 9.05%
  • University of Houston 8.75%
  • Seton Hall 8.70%
  • W&L 8.60%
  • SMU 8.55%
  • UC Irvine 8.47%
  • Villanova 8.28%
  • Indiana (Maurer) 7.85%
  • Cardozo 7.72%
  • Santa Clara 7.44%
  • Penn State 7.37%
  • Iowa 7.00%
  • Georgia State 6.90%
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    Last comment wednesday, mar 08 2017

    2018 USNWR Rankings

    By now, I am sure you have all seen the leaked rankings. Obviously Berkley and Georgetown make the headlines but you have schools like Rutgers jumping 30 spots. What do you think caused so much movement this year? Do you really think that certain schools have made either drastic improvements or have drastically fallen back in the span of a year?

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    Last comment sunday, mar 05 2017

    Poor undergrad GPA grad honors

    Hey guys I'm new to the forums and love all the content!

    Here's the short of it. I graduated from Rutgers with a middling GPA I worked for a year after at a non-profit and graduated from Seton Hall with a dual masters in diplomacy and MBA in supply chain. I've worked for a year on the Hill during that time and now work for a logistics firm. I want to go into trade or corp law and am worried that my undergrad GPA will affect my admission to a top school even though I graduated with honors from Seton Hall. I do community service, speak German, and have some decent connections. Would I essentially need to get in the mid 170s + to get into a top tier school? Thanks for any feedback guys!

    -Will

    I have a question for the Character and Fitness portion of the Law School application. I was basically caught Tresspassing in my bosses office, and initially lied about it to the Director of Community standards. on my record is failure to comply, dishonesty, and trespassing. In your guys' opinion, would the Dishonesty be the biggest deal breaker for my law school application? If it helps i can private message my addendum...

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    Last comment saturday, mar 04 2017

    School Opinions

    Hey hey!!

    I've been AWOL for awhile. Anyway, I got a 5 point increase from what I scored in 2014. I could have done better, but I also could have done worse. So, that's life. I took the score increase and smiled knowing I rocked the games section and probably had nerves get to me more than I should have. Shout out to 7Sage for the advice, curriculum, momentum, ect. You guys are the best out there.

    I decided to apply and see what happens and (as a result of a little Peace Corps stint) got all my applications fee waived. 18 schools later and I'm beginning to hear back. Thus far, I am waiting on about 12 schools. My top choices are still MIA. However, my bro said I should probably start to think about my top 2 options and get some opinions on them.

    So, it's right now Iowa v. Boston College. VERY different locations. Iowa essentially offered me a full ride and BC offered me like 1/3rd. Initially I would have gone straight for Iowa, but BC has better placements in the Boston/NYC area (an area I'd prefer to be in long term). Iowa, however, could open some doors for me in Chicago which is a city I also really like and I am from very close by.

    Background: I really am not into Big Law. My current interests are in advocacy law and public interest. The dream is to work for DOJ or state govt. but that may even be a reach as I'd be competing with HYS students. I'd also like to eventually maneuver into public policy work focused on children's rights. Short term, I could see myself starting in juvenile court. I'd be open to the private sector mainly working in family law dealing with adoptions/custody. But BL isn't my game.

    All thoughts/opinions would be nice to hear. Thanks team :)

    I was wondering how the admissions process for transferring works. For Instance- say I went to a tier 3 or tier 2 and ranked up pretty high in my first year, but wanted to transfer to a t16 program. What do these schools take into account? Will weight be placed more on academic achievement in the first year, or will the LSAT be put in play with equal measure thus negating my performance?

    Also, do companies look negatively on law school transfers?

    Hey everyone!

    So I currently work at Regent University School of Law admissions and I've heard some great things in the local area about grads from here and job placement. However, it is a very small, religious, private school which is unranked. Compared to other schools it is pretty young. Why are some schools like this not ranked? Has anyone heard anything negative about this school? The professors here are from mostly Ivy League schools and seem to be very solid.

    I am applying to law school soon for the fall of 2018, so I have a bit of time to research and decide my path. I'm currently living in Virginia Beach and my husband is stationed here. We own a house so that's why I am more tempted to stay within the area. It would be ideal for me to be able to go to law school while he stays in the Navy for a few more years for financial reasons. I recently separated from active duty myself to pursue my educational goals. So my first choice is William and Mary because of the location and the community it's in. It seems that plenty of people are getting jobs around here from there and in DC, with pretty decent starting salaries. I'm seeing a trend of people who pretty much have unlimited geographical opportunities and while I wish I did also, I have my other half to think about too. I will apply to UVA, Duke, and Georgetown as well but they are all around three hours from my home. I am taking my LSAT in June, so of course this will determine what is realistic. The only thing that worries me is that I don't want to commit career suicide by choosing the wrong school.

    Maybe this is a far too altruistic way of thinking in this line of work, but skills and personality have to account for something right? I still have no idea what kind of law I want to practice but I do know that I have confidence in myself to succeed at whatever school I go to and in whatever field I decide to pursue after. I am really looking for thoughts here and input. Thanks everyone.

    -Nicole

    How long do you guys normally see between application acceptance by the school and acceptances/ rejections from schools? Also, do most schools respond via online source or mail nowadays?

    Apologies for this since I know I have seen this thread before and can never find it.

    Hey All,

    Got some admitted students days coming up this month. Any idea what the dress code is for those? From perusing the other law school forums, it seems like most people are fairly casual (but they're not really wearing shorts or sweatpants and a t-shirt). So, for a guy, would nice jeans and a collared shirt be decent enough? I'm assuming wearing a coat and tie is overdressing a bit for Admitted Students days, since I don't have any scholarship interviews on these (that would obviously change things). Thoughts? Anyone already been to some of these?

    I know most of you are still preparing for the LSAT, so I apologize if this post is stressing you out/distracting!

    Soooo, the time has come.... I have to decide where to attend law school now. So far, I've narrowed it down to Michigan Law, USC Gould, and WUSTL. I'm still waiting for decisions from Duke, Northwestern, and UCLA.

    USC and WUSTL gave me the same amount of scholarship, but the net cost is lower @WUSTL. I didn't get any merit scholarship from Michigan, but I think I will try my luck with their international student financial aid (I am an international student!)

    My priority is to have decent employment prospect post-grad around the country and internationally.

    Please share your experience/thoughts with me! I'd really appreciate any insight/advice you are willing to give!

    So I'm not really sure what kind of law or what kind of firm I'd like to practice yet. However, In House Council has perked my interest a bit.

    I've read that many of times, people have obtained these positions by working for a while in big law firms. I'm curious if anyone has heard/read about graduates obtaining in house positions or a lower level version out of school? I'm not completely sold on doing big law but I'm definitely not against it either. Just curious what y'all have heard or seen.

    Hi!

    I'm finishing up my PS and optional essay, and I'm realizing the two are pretty connected. My PS (on the topic of why I want to go to law school) is centered around a problem affecting students that I experienced as an educator and how I want to become a lawyer to combat that problem.

    My optional essay (why I'm applying to X school) is mostly about how I want to attend this particular school because they have such a strong program for students who want to practice education law. I'm listing certain courses, faculty, a practicum program, and journal as specific reasons.

    I guess my concern here is whether or not I should reference my PS in my optional essay? And to what extent? My PS talks about how I worked in education for the past several years, do I mention it again in my optional essay?

    Hope this makes sense and isn't a reiteration of a question that's been asked a million times before! Any advice on overlapping personal statements/optional essays would be welcome!

    Hi folks,

    If you're an international student and you didn't receive a full ride, how did you fund your studies? Have you come across any good loans options?

    I just talked to someone who took a graduate research position in law school and they waived his last two years of tuition. Anyone heard of similar opportunities at any law schools?

    I know @"Dillon A. Wright" has offered a list of googled options already, but I was hoping to hear from international students who have already started their JD.

    Cheers!

    Hi guys,

    I really need some advice. I applied to the University of Victoria in BC, Canada. My index score (based on my GPA and LSAT) is quite high compared to most of the students who have posted about their acceptance on lawstudents.ca. BUT I applied on Jan 15, five minutes before the deadline... I did not do a good job on my personal statement, despite being a good writer, because I was anxious and procrastinated for far too long. I have this uneasy feeling that this HUGE mistake (which I know was a major fuck up) might have cost me my acceptance. What's the best thing to do now? Just wait patiently and hope for the best or get in contact with the admissions team? I mean, I don't know what I would say, I just know that I really want to get in...

    At a loss for next steps... has anyone had this happen?

    Thanks so much ♡

    P.S., no I am not being hard on myself. My PS actually sucked.

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    Last comment friday, feb 17 2017

    Canada/LSAC GPA

    Hey everyone,

    My school in Canada only gives out percentage grades on my transcript. They also have a chart that converts your percentage grade to a corresponding letter grade. But there are no letter grades on my transcript.

    Canadian percentage grades seem to be vastly different from US percentage grades; as my institution counts anything over a 94 an A+, over 90 an A, and so on. The conversion chart at LSAC is substantially lower in terms of percentages.

    If I calculate my GPA based on the corresponding letter grades at my institution, my GPA is 4.1. However, those grades aren't on the transcript, so my GPA is 3.75 according to LSAC.

    My question is, since there's a huge discrepancy, what can I do? I talked to LSAC and they seemed pretty fixated on taking whatever is on the transcript. For note, I haven't sent in anything yet, but since it's such a huge difference it's causing me huge concern.

    Thanks guys,

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    Last comment friday, feb 17 2017

    Law school Path

    I am lost between entering into a paralegal course( 2 year program) then apply to law school or purchase any of the courses on 7Sage then apply to law school?

    I am a newcomer to the law society, I am not an expert on what I should choose, it would be very helpful to get your opinions.

    Thank you!

    Hi Guys,

    I am having some trouble right now with LSATs/admissions, and since I've found this community to be overwhelmingly kind and wise, I thought I would give it a shot. For reference, I am shooting for the T-14 (my undergrad GPA is within those ranges).

    Basically, I've had a loooong relationship with the LSAT. Made every rookie mistake in the book. I graduated last June, and I first took an LSAT prep course the summer before my senior year. I went from a 150 to a 160, and thought I could get 173+ by the start of the school year. Obviously that didn't happen, and my entire last year of college was a whole slew of panicked withdrawals and parental pressure, which even resulted in an absence on one of the exams because I didn't withdraw on time.

    Thankfully, the gravity of that mistake shocked me out of my cycle. I decided to focus on school, then pick it up again from graduation up until this past September exam. Having finished the curriculum and not discovered 7Sage yet, I studied COMPLETELY the wrong way. My instructor was well-meaning, but he was one of those "unicorns" of the LSAT world - went from a 150 to a 177 in 2 weeks, with a vacation to Mexico in between. (Lol I can't make that up.) He told us the best way to prepare was to drill question types for months and then take practice tests right before. Unfortunately, I still let pressures of friends/family get to me and sat for this past September exam, which I ended up cancelling.

    That was kind of the final "shock to the system" I needed and I realized I want to finally do it right this time: PT and BR'ing, not registering until I'm ready, etc. Sure enough, it was working. Then, unexpectedly, I had to get pretty major surgery, which took quite a while to recover from. I have still managed to keep my score from slipping, and now that I'm finally doing a lot better it's on the rise again. I plan to sit for June or September, and am currently PT'ing solidly in the mid 160's (with about 10 PT's down).

    However, it has now technically been over half a year (almost 8 months, yikes) since I've graduated, and I've been unemployed the entire time. The resume gap is extremely nerve-wracking, but I also know I can't afford losing focus - especially with an absence AND cancel on my record (also extremely nerve-wracking). Would part time be an option? Does such a big gap already drastically lower my chances of admission to a top school? I am determined to not make any more big mistakes this time around... any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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