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Hey 7Sagers!

In terms of submitting LOR to LSAC - once the professor gets the link, do they submit only one LOR and then we distribute the same letter to each law school? Or do they need to provide multiple/ tailor each LOR to the school...? Let's say you're applying to five, do you ask your professor for five? So lost....

Thanks YALL.

What kind of questions are you asking yourself to get the creative process started? How are you going about crafting your personal statements?

Hey everyone! Quick question about the Academic Summary Report -- LSAC just processed my transcripts and the numbers are what I expected them to be, but I just noticed the statistics they include about your degree granting institution. Specifically, the story they tell about my university is that 65% of students got below average on the LSAT and too few students exist to calculate an average GPA. I was wondering how this is viewed by admission officers and what sort of impact it would have if I'm at the median for my top two law schools.

Hello 7sagers! Vague question alert here, but I took the June LSAT and am starting the application process - how do I go about narrowing down my list of schools? What kind of process are you using? Not entirely sure where I eventually want to settle down and practice (which is complicating things), but I scored a 166 and have a 3.85 LSAC GPA (OK softs, played a sport 4 years in college if that makes a difference). Do you think I can get into some of the lower tier T-14 schools? Any help is appreciated - thanks!

Hello! I was wondering if anyone knew anything about the process of attending law school in Australia and returning back to Canada/US for employment after graduating. I have read that certain states (CA + NY) are more friendly to international law students when they return back to pursue a legal career. As well, I have become aware to how more Canadian students attend school in Australia for law and return back to Canada to take some written exams before they can officially become a lawyer.

Does anyone have any more information about the process of attending law school internationally before coming back to practice in North America? Thanks!

Hi! I am confused about how the LSAC will calculate my GPA. My college just has A, B, C, etc. They do not give plus or minus. The college I transferred to gives plus and minus. I am just confused how this would all calculate up with the custom LSAC GPA.

I here we're gonna be the oddballs in Law Schools, and some people won't be so nice. I personally can grab a beer with anyone (guess it's just a laid back West Coast/CA thing), but I just wanna know I'm not gonna be all alone out there :)

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/12/13/study-high-standardized-test-scores-dont-translate-to-better-cognition

http://worklife.columbia.edu/files_worklife/public/Pros_and_Cons_of_Standardized_Testing_1.pdf

I thought these were two interesting links about standardized testing. They may not specifically be about the LSAT, but they do offer some insight about the pitfalls of this type of testing. I think the LSAT (and as a matter of fact all standardized admissions test) should be done away with. I recognize the need for an equal scoring system, but I would imagine every year students are denied from schools because they didn't perform well enough on a test, when in reality could be the best and brightest students in a field and their class. I don't know what the solution should be, maybe less weight for the LSAT in the admissions process, maybe admissions officer do more research about an applicants school/major, perhaps more schools conduct rounds of interviews with applicants? All of these of course take more resources that may not be available to all schools, but I think a new system is needed. What do the might fine minds of 7 sage thing?

Good afternoon everyone!

Can one submit one's transcripts to the AACRAO so that one gets evaluation of one's UG performance, before taking the LSAT?

I have read that the CAS ( formerly LSDAS) uses AACRAO evaluation services to determine how good or bad one did in UG.

I plan on taking the LSAT this February 2018, but before taking, I would like to know where I stand as an international applicant. Or does the CAS calculate GPA only when you are applying to law schools?

In other words, if one's not applying to law schools immediately, can one engage transcript evaluation of AACRAO or CAS just to assess where one stands?

Alternatively is there anyone here who can provide a tentative LSDAS GPA for an international student like me, whom I can PM?

Thank you.

Hi guys,

I recently attended a law school forum in DC and met a lot of schools. Is it ok if I actually write about admissions officer I spoke to at the forum?

Something like: "My recent discussion with Ms. __ __ affirmed my decision to make (enter school name) my top choice. She raved the JD/MPH program......"

Is that ok? Of course I won't make up the conversation we had, but i highly doubt they will remember me anyways lol.

I've been searching for hours but haven't been able to find a useful or remotely comprehensive list. It seems like Northwestern and Georgetown do in-person interviews, and Harvard, Columbia, and UChicago do videoconference interviews. Does anyone else know about the other schools? I mainly ask because I'm debating whether I should even apply to the schools that require in-person interviews, as I will be out of the country next winter/spring and wouldn't be able to fly back without the school actually subsidizing my travel.

Thanks in advance for any useful info!

EDIT: Probably easier to organize by school and update as we get info.

Harvard: Video interview

Yale: No interview

Stanford: No interview

Columbia: Video interview

Chicago: Video interview

Penn: ?? (their website says their admissions committee occasionally asks to interview candidates, but it seems uncommon)

NYU: No interview

Berkeley: No interview

Michigan: No interview

Virginia: Interview (phone? video? in-person?)

Northwestern: In-person interview

Georgetown: In-person group interview

Duke: ??

Cornell: ??

So I submitted my transcripts a while back and also received an email confirming that they were processed. However, I am unable to view what my LSAC GPA is online. Any ideas?

I'm applying after already finishing my MA a few years ago, and am trying to figure out the best approach for letters of rec. I was hoping some of you might have ideas about the questions below!

When academic letters of recommendation are preferred, is there any preference for undergraduate vs. graduate recommenders? Obviously my grad school professors have more recent memories of me, but I finished my grad course work 4 years ago, so it isn't all that recent either.

Since my undergrad professors previously recommended me for grad school, would it be absolutely crazy to ask them to submit and/or adapt the existing letters for law school?

Will it reflect badly if I don't submit an employer recommendation, after having been in the workforce for a few years? I'm certain they'd write me a good letter, but I'm not feeling comfortable disclosing quite yet that I'm applying to law school, since I wouldn't be matriculating for over a year at this point.

Thanks, all!

The potential free personal statement edit for the webinar got me wondering. What are the potential drawbacks of posting your personal statement online to get advice?

I am not all that worried about my personal statement being exposed as mine, though the possibility could merit some slight censorship of any details about my school or location.

For me, the main concern that I can think of would be that it could be plagarized or that elements could be copied. This might make it less unique. Is that just paranoid? If it is, why do most people try to get edits via swaps rather than posting them?

Are there other drawbacks I am not thinking of? What are they?

Hi Everyone,

I'm still planning out my timeline to apply for schools to start in the Fall of 2018. I have a pretty low GPA (3.49) and don't know my LSAT score yet (will be taking in Sept). I've had about 3 years of working experience in law firms as a practice assistant.

Like most, I have a good list of schools I'm applying to with safeties, targets and reaches.

I plan on asking a teacher or work supervisor for recommendations when the time comes, but the problem is I'm embarrassed to ask for letters to my reach schools. I'm talking Harvard, Columbia, etc. as my reach and I feel like people would just laugh at my face.

Has anyone ever had this issue before? These are my dream schools, but with my GPA I don't seriously think I'll get in - I'm just kind of applying to "see if it could ever happen" (and obviously on the off chance that I would be accepted - I would attend). I'm aware this could be a waste of time/money, but I will regret it if I don't apply to these schools.

Hi,

I graduated from the UK with an upper-second class honours. I looked online and I think it translates to 3.4 / 4.00. My question is do law schools look at the converted GPA the same way they look at US graduates' GPAs? My dream school is Northwestern. with an LSAT score of 162-166 do I have a good chance of being admitted? all other things equal.

Thanks,

I really want to wait until my last semester grades are posted before applying, which would be mid-December. My PT score is 165, and 173 BR and I'll be taking the LSAT in September. I already have my PS, LOR, addendum, and additional essays prepared so really I could apply once the September LSAT grades are posted.

I would greatly appreciate any advice. I would like to apply in October, however, I recognize patience is a virtue. Looking mostly T-40 schools. Thanks!

I go to a Canadian university where the 4.0 scale isn't used and, rather, we receive percentages and letter grades on our official transcripts. I read on another website that when calculating the LSAC GPA in such circumstances where both percentages and letter grades are available, then only letter grades will be used. Can anyone confirm that this is in fact true?

My GPA is significantly different when I use percentages vs. grade letters to calculate it, so it's very important for me to figure this out. Thanks in advance!

Hey everybody! This is my first time posting here so my apologizes if this post breaks forum etiquette.

Right now I'm considering whether or not a need a GPA addendum. From my undergraduate institution, LSAC will calculate that I have a 3.94 and within my time at my undergraduate institution I have steadily raised my GPA by small margins every semester. The problem is that I have some old DE credits from 4 years ago that will come back to haunt me and bring my LSAC calculated UGPA all the way to 3.72.

My ideal school is Georgetown having a median GPA of 3.77 and I'm still four points shy of their median LSAT (sitting in September to hopefully immediately apply ED after the scores come back.)

My question is should I write an addendum basically confessing I was a stupid teenager who didn't take life seriously and has since applied myself and steadily brought my GPA up every semester since? I'm almost worried that writing that addendum will highlight past poor grades without helping too much as I'm only .05 below their median.

What do you guys think? Additionally, if you think I should write it, should I include that since going to college I've held a 3.94 or does that not assist the addendum?

What should i ask my proffesors to include in a letter of recommendation? Neither of them are from the US and i know that when i ask them for a LOR they arent going to know what the norm recomendation includes

3.81gpa, 158 lsat. I'll probably take the LSAT again in December to try to get a 160+.

UC Hastings has 75th percentile gpa of 3.61 and 75th percentile lsat of 161

Any chance of getting merit scholarships with my current stats?

Hello Sages,

I just had a quick thought/question about doing the early decision programs, particularly for Gtown and NU. I am probably going to ED for both or one of the schools as they are my top two choices. My June LSAT score is just below the median at both schools, so I think ED will be advantageous, right? Although I am going to retake in September, I doubt if it's going to be a drastic increase. I noticed that for NU, their website states they do not allow students to apply ED at any other schools, but Gtown has no such rules. Thus, my question is can I apply ED at Gtown before or after applying to NU, if I get rejected at one school before applying to the other? Will they know if I have applied? Has anyone done it before? Anyone in similar situations?

Thanks and good luck to everyone. Happy LSATs!

So, as a URM myself it's pretty awesome to hear that your chances of admission to harder schools with lower than the median scores at those schools increase. I see users on the URM forum on TLS post their admissions from this past cycle and the results are incredible. I'm aiming for the highest score possible but this is definitely a great confidence booster. My question is, has anyone had these "bumps" happen to them themselves or have heard about it from other law students? My concern is that these numbers only represent a VERY VERY small portion....sort of like the unicorns for URMs that were accepted.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12M14YUWQvgxsF3GXc-syd-Pn3bOcWBUWIX8AJkFbajM/edit#gid=0

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=275052

I would appreciate any feedback that anyone can give. I am applying to law schools this fall, and I am shooting particularly for YLS. How impactful will my softs be to overcome my not-so stellar UGPA (LSAC GPA 3.17) from over 10 years ago? My LSAT is 176.

Softs are: