Any thoughts? I applied in September, schools median, GPA above median. They started reviewing my application 11/04/21, official review time for the school is between 8 and 12 weeks. I am super concerned because I have a feeling that no response for that long means I am essentially being waitlisted. This is very disappointing considering median's match and GPA being above, plus a pretty impressive resume. Share your stories, thoughts, ideas...

It seems this current cycle is not as hectic as the past one, but still a difficult one! I submitted my applications at end of November/beginning of December, and I’m still waiting to hear back from most schools. Would anyone be interested in having a (discord) group to discuss things we (could or should) do post application? Let me know!

I am wondering if I am considered a URM. I am an Asian immigrant, of an indigenous ethnic minority in my home country. I've heard that Asians are typically not considered URM, and since the 509 does not specify on ethnicity and indigenous status for students (of groups outside of the Americas), I would assume this means I won't be considered by schools as URM. Does anyone with a background similar to mine have any experience on this in the admissions process? Thanks in advance!

Update: If anyone else was wondering also, based on the questions about ethnicity LSAC asked me (the region where I'm from wasn't even listed... so I just chose Asian Other and my other race), plus based on y'all's feedback, seems like no.

I just got my January 2022 LSAT score of a 166. This was a retake, and I first took the LSAT in October 2020 and got a 165. My goal was a 168-170. I am disappointed but whatever. I really really don’t want to take this again while working full time. I’m thinking of applying this September for the next cycle or throwing in a few applications right now for this cycle. I have a 3.9 GPA, graduated from a top-4 public college, and have a rare physical disability which is what my personal statement is about FWIW.

I applied last cycle with my 165 and didn’t get in anywhere except GWU (but no scholarship). I did get waitlisted at Penn and Michigan fwiw. I am determined to going to law school and would like to get a good amount of scholarship money if I can. It’s just a matter of when. I’m looking at the lower t-14 to t-20s-30. I’m casting a wide net for schools.

Should I even throw in a few applications for this cycle right now or just wait entirely until September? I am very conflicted. Thanks.

Waitlisted at a school where I'm 2 points above their median and I planned to retake the LSAT to show effort and submit an update but have not studied that much and am worried of scoring lower that my highest score. Could a low LSAT score harm my waitlist chances or could retaking it only help me?

Hello everyone, I am planning to apply in the next cycle and am currently stressed about my softs. I am an international student so do not have much idea about the criteria used by US schools. I'll be grateful if anyone could take out the time to review my resume and suggest improvements/how I can build it further.

Thanks in advance :)

I want to express a deep sense of thanks to 7Sage for helping me get to a 174! I took the LSAT twice, the first time I received a 138, and right after that I found 7Sage! I am deeply indebted to everyone here, including my fellow 7Sagers who would comment and share their ideas via posts that helped me immensely.

I have learnt a lot and the Core Curriculum is so well designed!

Thank you everyone! And good luck on your LSAT journey.

Hi,

I know the Personal Statement for almost anywhere is required to be double spaced. I was just wondering if other essays like addendums and diversity statements also had to be double spaced? I know they are supposed to be shorter but a single page double spaced is not enough to really show anything unique.

Thanks in advance!

I know this is ridiculous because I've often been the person here who has given advice with regards to such type of questions, but now erroneously I am in the position to ask for it. I would still appreciate your help.

I've been averaging at around 174 among all PT's I've taken, and during the last 5 or so PTs I was able to hit a 180 and a 176. I had the suspicion that there might be an inflation because I had seen the vast majority of the PT's I've done before, however it was 1-1.5 years ago (I basically did non-serious on- and off- studying from late 2019 to May 2020, fully stopped and re-started in May 2021) and I honestly did not consciously remember any (!) of the questions - that feeling got corroborated when I simulated PT91 (100% fresh) on LawHub and scored a 173, which was within the range of my other scores (and honestly, it did not feel different from all other PTs I had taken).

I took the January International LSAT, and it did not feel significantly different from any other PT I've done (I was able to control the increased level of nervousness due to knowing that this is the real LSAT). However, I received my score yesterday which was a 168, and spent the whole day crying and vomiting (I wish I were kidding...). I never scored a 168 since re-starting prep in May (I can send you my personal PT excel file if you do not believe me)...

Before getting my mind clear, registering for June LSAT and using the weekend to think about an action plan, I would like to ask whether it makes sense now to apply to the Law Schools I planned to (these are Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Columbia, University of Chicago - no other schools, for personal reasons).

Things considering rn:

I often read here and on reddit that your chances are zero if LSAT is below last year's medians, however e.g. Harvard's 25th percentile score was 170, means that 25% of those admitted scored 170 or lower. Means to me that there is a realistic chance that there were at least some people with my score who got admitted.

It's February, admittedly very late, not sure how much of an impact that has (some say marginal, some say chances are 0).

Everything is set up for application, I paid here $600 for editing my Personal statement + diversity statement, for both I got verified by the editors that they are ready for submission now.

I can apply up to 3 times to each law school, however the thought of the miracle happening and thus not having to deal with LSAT anymore (i.e. getting accepted to one of those schools despite my weak LSAT score) is enticing.

No URM, however stellar CV and background interesting enough to write a diversity statement.

Bonus question:

After the 10 min break of the LSAT exam, I got another proctor. For some reason, the proctoring system kept calling my screen, there was no button where I could pick up and the new proctor was apparently so unfamiliar with the system that she could not make it stop - and instead of being able to calm down before the 2nd half of the exam, I was forced to listen to this annoying sound.

Furthermore, during the last 2-3 min of my LG section, it showed me that there was a connection issue for 5 sec or so, and suddenly it automatically switched to another window. I spent 30-60 sec yelling at the proctors to either stop the time or bring me back to the exam, when I suddenly realized that the exam window was still open and I was able to switch back to the exam simply with my mouse - I know that I could have realized it earlier/immediately, but, I mean, I was taking a very important exam at that moment...

At the end, I was luckily able to finish the LG questions, however: are these sufficient reasons to make this exam not count towards any limit (e.g. one can take the exam 3x in a testing year, 5x in 5 years and 7x over a lifetime, or sth like that) without being cancelled? This was the 4th time I took the LSAT, one of them though does not count because it was a Flex in summer 2020 (two of the scores are cancelled btw.).

Thanks.

I just got accepted yesterday!!! Thanks 7Sage

which school and when? Also any international applicant specifically who has received a response?

Hey everyone,

I'v read here that some people send in their applications in order to meet the deadline, but before receiving their LSAT score. Is this possible? Will it hurt my chances in getting in? How do I make sure that they know not to make a decision before they receive my score? Will I even be able to submit the application without the score?

Pleased Advise

Some law schools I am applying are also schools I applied for undergrad. I am considering reusing my undergrad personal statement for diversity statement. Does anyone know if law school admissions check undergrad apps or it's going to disadvantage me by doing so?

If someone updated to current application cycle in their CRS recently 1 week ago, then how long after can they expect CRS application fee-waivers from T14? How long does it take for CRS fee-waiver to trigger?

I mistakenly didn't update CRS app cycle until last week, and plan to apply to a few schools in T14 that are known to give out fee-waiver from CRS. Should one hold out for waiver or at this late in the cycle CRS doesn't do it?

I recently received a full tuition scholarship at a school I plan on attending. While I feel incredibly fortunate, I have been concerned about living expenses while in school. For background, I am a non-traditional student, already working for 8 years and am now going back to school. My wife and I would move from dual income to solo income on a teacher's salary.

My question is: what are my options (other than loans) to help with living expenses and other law school fees/computer/books? I am having a hard time finding scholarships that are not for tuition - most are saying they send money directly to the school. I have also reached out to the school, but they are not willing to provide for those other expenses. I understand living frugal and making sure I have some money saved up to tide my wife and I over until I can hopefully get a part time job in 2L, but at this stage in my life, I really want to avoid taking out loans if possible. Any advice on where to look for this type of financial aid? Does it exist?

What is an ideal timeline for 2023 applicants? I registered my first LSAT in April...

Hi everyone! I know this question gets thrown around on the forum sometimes, but I'd love some clarity when it comes to bettering one's chances of admission from a timeline perspective as well as receiving adequate aid.

With that being said, what is considered pretty late? If one were to take the October or November LSAT, is applying soon after considered late? Appreciate everyone's thoughts.

I already submitted my applications with an LSAT score already on file, but now I'm considering signing up for a future LSAT to improve my score. Will applications that are already marked "complete" still be considered even though I have an upcoming test date on file or will they put me on hold? Is this something I need to email the admissions office about?

I just wanted to log back onto 7Sage after several months (I took my last test in October) to thank JY and the 7Sage community for everything it has given me. This website helped me raise my LSAT score by 10 points and undoubtedly is a huge factor in my success this cycle. I applied to 18 schools and I've been accepted to 6 of them (including a T30 and 2 full rides in the T50). I've also been deferred at my #1 of GULC (fingers crossed for me) and I have high hopes for the remaining schools. I never thought I would make it to this point until I found 7Sage and finally started to understand my own learning process. Thank you everyone and good luck to everyone who is still studying for the LSAT! You got this!

I couldn't apply earlier this cycle due to a variety of personal reasons.

I was planning to apply to extreme reaches for me at HLS and a few other T6.

This is the last cycle I can apply before my LSAT score expires.

It's 171 from Sep-2016 and valid by LSAC only till this cycle.

Is it worth to apply this late at HLS?

I saw they have a deadline of Mar-1st, which makes it looks like there is still time to go and that they expect some applications to trickle even in Feb, or why would they have such a late deadline. (i may be wrong but iirc they used to have Feb1st as deadline).

How much of a difference is in applying now vs early Sep/Oct in the cycle?

Hello 7sage family,

I am curious to know if anyone has information on how masters degrees are evaluated in terms of applying to law schools? Being a student who graduated with a bachelors gpa of 3.5 and two masters degrees with 4.0s, one of which is a masters in legal studies from usc, do masters degrees give an upper hand (in any way) to a student applying in the law school admissions cycle? If yes, how much would it be? If no, what are the reasons for them to not be counted?

All my super-splitter (or reverse splitter) friends out there, I just realized that Wash U now has a redacted LSAT and redacted GPA application. This, in theory would be wonderful for me. I got straight A's all through grad school, which usually doesn't matter since only undergrad GPA is looked at, and a 174 on the LSAT which don't pair well with a sub 3 undergrad GPA.

I wonder though, despite their claim that they'll evaluate the application holistically without regard to the redacted component if it might have an impact on scholarship opportunities. Does anyone have any knowledge of other schools doing this? Did scholarship money continue to flow? @studentservice any thoughts?

I'm super torn about whether or not to delay a cycle or to take the February LSAT (I signed up for both January and February.) If I would take the February, my plant would be to push really hard for a month and apply this cycle. I know it probably sounds dumb but I would rather start law school at 26 than 27 and for some reason I have a hard time getting that age/timing thing out of my head! I originally took the LSAT in November of 2020, then decided to delay until THIS cycle after getting a 147. I definitely studied and have improved a lot (scoring in the 150's) but with my BR score in the 170's I know that I can do better with more time. Does anyone else feel a weird sense of embarrassment about delaying twice or have any experience doing so? I also have a fear about applying so many years after graduating college when my job is not in the legal field. This test has really become such a psychological test for me as much as a logical one lol.

Hi all, weird question here. My partner is currently deciding between med schools, and I'm planning on applying to law school this fall wherever she ends up. I get some input in this process, thankfully, and so I'm wondering how I should be thinking about this given that the set of schools I apply to will be very limited. Would it be worth it to choose somewhere that the admissions predictor gives me an 80% chance of getting into? 90%? Curious how others would approach this since it's a slightly stressful situation on my end (and the nature of med school/residency means it'll be a while before it's realistic for me to apply again).

Hi all,

I'm an international, first gen, low income, URM, KJD candidate who applied during this cycle. Long story short: There is hope if you have a lower LSAT.

I started studying for the LSAT at exactly this time last year. I sat in June and got a 161. It was an okay starting score but I knew I could push for more. I sat again in August and, despite testing at a consistent 168, the test screwed me and I got a 160. This was devastating because I had worked so hard only to recieve a lower score the second time round. I had been toying with the idea of cancelling the score but ended up choosing not to: Mistake. I didn't submit an addendum because there was nothing to say - the test sucked.

Exhausted, over worked, and demotivated, I felt like my chances were shot especially because I had my heart set on a T14. I enrolled at Georgetown Law this morning. (Yes, technically GULC is not a T14 but a) they're on the rise and b) I did also get acceptances from several T14s like UVA but chose GULC for personal reasons).

On paper, it looked impossible but through some miracle, these top schools looked at more than just my score. Sure, they all claim to be holistic but use my experience as a reason to believe that they are telling the truth.

Sitting here one year later, right as my subscription is about to expire, I wanted to let you know that you can do it, no matter what your score looks like on paper.