I have taken the LSAT before, but decided to retake. I was diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis since last taking it. My symptoms are pretty bad (sudden onset, didn't have these issues when I first took the test). Will the fact that I took the test before without accommodation affect my chances of getting an accommodation this time around?

Hi everyone

I was dealing with really bad burnout for the last 3-4 months that developed over the pandemic, but am now feeling like I can pick back up and study for the LSAT for this cycle to apply to a few Ontario schools in Canada.

Looking to skip some of the core curriculum since I already did a full course with another LSAT prep program.

Any thoughts on this?

Looking to skip over to doing practice sets

Thanks!

Anyone signed up for a live session? How does it work? I signed up for one that is supposed to start today and have not received any information

Hi everyone! I'm Raphael and I'm one of the 99th-percentile tutors here at 7Sage. This coming month, I'm offering a group class to teach LSAT fundamentals. This class is perfect for those of you who are still working through core curriculum or those who, after finishing it, still feel like they want a bump on fundamentals and elements of timing.

Classes begin Thursday, August 4th, at 9pm and meet weekly at that time through October 10.

We have 16 spots, but they fill up fast. Join us here, and comment below if you have questions! https://classic.7sage.com/lsat-fundamental-piliero-august/

I am just curious, are we allowed like a quick breather between sections? For example, can I take like a 20 second breather before I start section 2 or am I only allowed a break at the halfway point? I have no special accommodations FYI. Thanks!

I know strengths and weaknesses and the whole memo - but for drilling mode when I wanna practice various question types how many should I be doing ? 25- 30? like whats counter productive? I did 40 for lr and it seemed too much

Anyone have tips for overcoming the 150s? I have tried employing various different strategies and approaches to studying, but always end up getting low-mid 150s. I am not aiming high - I just want to land in the 80th percentile. Any insight would be appreciated!!!!

Please give us the option to see which answers we eliminated/crossed out when looking at our preptest answer results. This would help us see our original thought processing when blind reviewing and when going over final results.

I forgot about the ProctorU scheduling email this week due to various events.

Just found that no good slots available for the August test on Saturday.

I was trying to find something around noon on Saturday, Pacific zone.

Anyone in the same boat? Do slots open that one can reschedule? Or am I stuck with odd hours?

Hi there,

I am just posting this because I'm not totally sure how to get in contact with 7sage, or if anyone else has had this happen to them, but I purchased tutoring sessions early yesterday however I have not received any email with a link to a survey so I can be matched with a tutor. I am hoping to take the August LSAT and so would love to get started as soon as possible! Thanks :)

So I've got three weeks left in the Army before I start terminal leave and I've finally reached the end of the learning curriculum and the only thing that stands in between me and 4-5 months of PTs is the LG Bundle. As I finished up the last few LG sections in the curriculum I saw a lot of people were having the same questions, concerns and other issues with how to approach their LG studies and utilizing the Fool Proof Method and since I don't really have a job or much to do at work anymore I thought I'd offer up my solution and strategy to address some of these problems. I think the Fool Proof Method is awesome, but I tweaked it very slightly for my purposes and I think it could help some people out to employ a similar strategy. If this helps you in any way, please pass it along to anyone else who may be struggling.

Top concerns I have seen from other people:

1) I think 10 copies of every LG is wasting paper.

2) I don't have enough time to do all the LGs.

3) I want to know the categories for every LG I'm doing.

4) When do I do which games and how often do I do them again?

Before I answer these questions directly, here is what I've actually done to set myself up for success. If you were fortunate enough to get the LG Bundle before LSAC made it vanish, then you have all the games from PTs 1-35 which is 140 games. If you have anything less than that, just scale down what I'm prescribing, but everything should still go along as I outline here. I got a few 2" 3-ring binders and filled them with document protectors. I then began with PT 1 and printed out 4 copies of the first game (more on this later), which if you have the LG Bundle is 8 pieces of paper since 7Sage was kind enough to format the old LGs like the new ones with 2 pages and plenty of room to work. If you don't have this I'd say add a piece of scratch paper in with each game to give yourself extra space to simulate what you'll have on the LSAT. I then placed all 4 copies of the first game in a document protector and put a sticky note on the front denoting the following: PT#, LG#, and then a chart with 1st-4th attempts on the vertical axis and Date/Time/Score on the horizontal axis (more on this later as well). I then repeated this process for each subsequent game so that now I have a binder full of 4 copies of each LG, although due to the volume of paper you'll need at least 2 or 3 binders like I mentioned above.

All the information I collect on the sticky notes I will put into a very simple Excel spreadsheet I have designed to track my progress. If you've read this far and are still interested, feel free to message me your email and I will send you a blank copy of the spreadsheet I designed so you can use it and tweak it how you see fit. In a nutshell it has space to log the date/time/score for every attempt for every LG in the bundle.

The first attempt is simply that, just my first shot at a new LG. I time everything with a stopwatch so I know how I'm doing, but I don't set a timer because that doesn't really make sense to me since I'm working to standard and not to time. If you time yourself and stop then you won't know how long the game is actually taking you, so always use a stopwatch (I hope this is common sense at this point). So once I finish I record the date and the time it took me and I blind review and then check my score. I then record only the score I got while timing myself since this is LG and there is no way you should get LG questions wrong during BR since you can just brute force the answers if need be if you really don't understand something. If you're missing LG questions on BR then in my opinion there is something seriously wrong in your methodologies and you need to perhaps relearn the basics unless you just misread a question or something like that.

After recording the data on the sticky note and transferring it to my spreadsheet I watch JY's video explanation and go over the game and then I put that LG in the back of the document protector it came from behind the clean LGs and take out the second copy. I then make my second attempt, timing myself, doing my BR, recording all data, and then rewatching the video if necessary. I then make my third attempt the next day, and my fourth attempt I make a week later, always following the same methodologies as I did on the first attempt.

My thinking is that if I'm really serious about this, I should be able to conquer any given LG in four tries. Two in a row should see a huge time and accuracy improvement since it's so fresh in my mind, then the third and fourth attempts simply reinforce this improvement and the retention of the strategy. This also makes you more efficient since you know that each LG is simply a 7-8 day practice exercise. Trying to schedule out an additional 6 attempts to do all 10 copies just seemed ridiculous to me given that there are 140 LGs to do in the bundle. In my mind it's better to be able to develop mastery more quickly and then encounter a wider variety of games in order to make sure you're ready for everything. Of course, if there is an incredibly hard LG then obviously that may require additional attempts, but this should be a rare exception to the rule.

So to revisit the concerns I noted above, here are my solutions:

1) Obviously you're going to have to get over using some paper, so cutting that down by 60% should be a good tradeoff to help get you into law school in my opinion. And once you get your 170+ you can go recycle all that paper!

2) If you don't have time to do all the LGs, just scale down the above and do what you have time for. If you know it will take a week turnaround per LG and you can do 5 per day, then you know you can get at least 30-35 done in a two week period depending on if you take a day off or not. At this rate you could do more than 100 LGs before the June LSAT if need be (but you should probably be focusing on PTs). If you have to scale way down I'd recommend randomly picking PTs from 1-35 and doing all the games in that PT so you shouldn't end up doing all of the same kind of question and will get a better feel for the variability within a given test.

3) In my opinion you absolutely should never record the category of any game you attempt. If you do, it will negatively influence your work since you will know going in to use a chart or to sequence and group rather than just deducing what needs to be done. When you take the LSAT it doesn't say GROUPING GAME in bold type at the top of the page, so you should practice like its the real thing, which means no knowledge of categories.

4) I think I addressed this well in my strategy above, but it bears repeating: Make 4 attempts: 1st - Today, 2nd - Immediately afterwards, 3rd - Tomorrow, 4th - In a week (either a week from attempts 1&2 or a week from your 3rd attempt, that's your call schedule wise).

Anyways, I know this is a bit long but I hope it helps at least one person because as a longtime lurker I have gotten a lot of help from the community here and I wanted to try to do my part to give at least a little bit back. If anyone is still reading this and wants more details or wants photos of my binders or that Excel spreadsheet, feel free to hit me up anytime. Best of luck to all the June LSAT takers and to everyone else in your studies!

~Pacifico

P.S.- Though I am more than happy to help anyone here with any issues they may have, I will not send you the LG Bundle as that would violate both 7Sage and LSAC regulations. Please don't put me or anyone else in that position because I am trying to help people here and won't break the law to do so. Thanks for your cooperation!

P.P.S. - I don't check my inbox on here anymore, but if you have any questions you can DM me on Twitter @pacificosoldati and I'll do my best to help you however I can.

I’ve been searching online, but I can’t find an answer to this. I have guinea pigs in a cage in the room that I’ll be using for testing. Will it be okay if they are kept there while I do my LSAT and LSAT Writing?

If I feed them before the test starts, it’s unlikely that they will make any noise or cause any trouble. They’re certainly not smart enough to help me in any way. I’m just concerned that it will be a ineffective use of time before my test to move them to a temporary cage in another part of my apartment before testing.

I know we're allowed 5 pieces of scratch paper, but does anyone know if the test administrator will require you to disregard the sheet of paper used on the previous section? Or are we allowed to keep and use each piece of paper for all sections?

According to 7sage's automatic study schedule, I am to take 6 PTs a week starting next week.

Is taking this many PTs optimum? Or should I space them as 3-4 per week.

Also, how do I add drills into the schedule?

Im taking the Oct'23 LSAT.

Thanks.

Hey everyone!

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If you've drilled a problem multiple times, you can hover over the recycling icon on the "review results" page and see what answer you chose on each take. This is helpful, but it'd be better if it also displayed how long you spent on that question for every take. That way, I'd be able to finely track timing improvements on specific questions while, say, foolproofing a logic game. Thank you!

Hello Everyone!

I need some help regarding my GPA. I have spoke with some LSAC employees and still feel a bit confused. In regards to classes that have been noted with academic forgiveness, what is the actual process for it not to count towards your lsat gpa? If the class and grade shows on transcript but is noted as AF(academic forgiveness) is it excluded?

Second, are all non level college courses excluded from GPA?

Lastly, are all DR(Dropped), N, NC, W, WS, etc. excluded from GPA calculation as well?

Sorry for any misconfusion, I'm just trying to figure out so I know the proper time to apply with a strong GPA to law school

Thank you all very much.

Hi everyone! So, I take the lsat in 10 days. I have been studying for a whole year and my progress has been extremely slow. To give you some insight, I am one of those kinds of students that needs to put in 10x more energy and hard work, to just even the slightest bit of improvement. That being said, I have been scoring in the 155-157 range and I really, really wan to hit that 160 mark. Honestly, it is literally my dream and I feel stuck. I know some people say this improvement is not possible in ten days but I have also heard people tell me that it is possible. I guess the biggest issue in my scoring is inconsistency. Sometimes, I will have a good day and get about 6 wrong in LR or I can have a horrible day and get 10 wrong. For LG, I used to score so poorly, but I have somehow managed to raise it 15-17/23. I think this is where I have the shot of the most improvement. I still review RC but I think it is better for me not to spend the last 10 days leading up to the exam and focusing on RC, which is the hardest section to improve, I feel. According to my raw score, I need to get about 5 more questions to right to hit 160. If anyone has any ADVICE, please let me know. I really want to reach my goal. Thank you!!

If one wants to withdraw from Aug lsat, can one do so?

if so, by when and would it show as "withdrawal" on scoresheet and does it affect number of takes available?

In the paper days one could withdraw till the night before the test without affecting number of takes.

Pro-tip from the academics that teach people how to learn best (not just my own). It’s called “Spaced Repetition.”

The idea is straightforward: You learn something best when you have to remember it.

So what does this look like in practice? You do some learning now, pause, then come back and do some more later. Most of us do something similar, but we take a more difficult approach. It’s easy to think that we should finish an entire lesson, take really good notes, and promise ourselves that we’ll study those notes later. These are still good practices, but there’s a way to make it more effective.

Just leave one or two lessons incomplete and finish them later. Then you’re forced to remember all that stuff at a later date.

For instance, I’m going through the CC in order, but I’ve left two or three problems in the grammar section incomplete. I’ll finish those next week. This way, I’m forced to go back and remember (and implement) what I previously studied. This doesn’t mean I can’t or won’t review my notes anymore, just that I’m creating a system where I have to space out the learning process and force myself to practice recall.

TL;DR Recommendation: Leave 1-2 lessons incomplete in each section to force yourself to practice Spaced Repetition.

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It makes the lessons shorter in a meaningful way; allows you to skip back-and-forth while still completing sections in order; and break apart the learning process so you’re giving your brain time to internalize what you learn.

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Hey everyone! Im looking for an LSAT BR study buddy! Im looking to take the Lsat this October but am honestly going to study until i'm PT'ing in the 170s! Im currently on PT 57 so am looking for someone around a similar PT so we can work through the remaining 36 tests together. Im in the mid to upper 150s on timed but usually 168-170 BR. I also work full time so want someone on a similar schedule.

Hello 7sage community,

I was never one for posting on the discussion thread but I thought I would share some gratitude I have for 7sage and the community. I started studying for the LSAT in the Fall of 2020 in the midst of the pandemic. When I started I knew close to nothing about the journey I was embarking on. I had Kahn Academy and a desire to learn more about this test. To give a little background I graduated from Florida International University in 2019 with a BS in Communications. I am a father of two beautiful and rambunctious boys and just celebrated five years of marriage with my lovely wife. I had an unconventional undergrad trajectory and it took me nearly five years to complete my undergrad program. I had to work full-time to support my family and also attend school. When I decided to start studying I was working full time and my children were ages 1 and 3.

My first ever timed PT was on the LSAT prep test book in paper. I scored a 150. I was actually really excited when I took the test and knew that regardless of whether I was going to pursue law school I wanted to master this test. I set out initially with the common goal of scoring higher than a 170, because somehow online that just seemed to be the magic number. After a month of Kahn, I decided to purchase Mike Kim's LSAT Trainer. Due to my work/life schedule I would have to study either at 8pm until I couldn't stay awake or wake up at 4 am and study until 7 am when my children would wake up. I was on the 8 week program to go through the book and I remember finishing sometime around the start of 2021. After completing the book I learned a lot but was sorely disappointed to only PT in the mid 150's. By chance, at the end of the book there was a section called "More Resources" and that's when I stumbled upon 7sage. My first encounter with the website was a free group session hosted by someone for reading comprehension. I couldn't believe that someone would be offering free lessons when other resources were charging up the wazoo for lessons. Despite my wife's comprehension about the cost I signed up for 7sage. What a game changer. My understanding of the exam, formal logic, and arguments grew exponentially. In addition, the comment section of every lesson was a lifeline when I felt down or unmotivated. I decided to take my time with lessons and really absorb everything. From the Spring of 2021 to Summer I made a huge leap in grasping the test.

In my mind, I had this goal that I would take the official LSAT in August and have my applications ready to submit in early September. At this point I was listening to every LSAT podcast out there (shout out to 7sage's pod, Spivey's, and another pod which out of respect for 7sage will remain nameless) so I knew the importance of applying early. When I started studying I had grandeous plans of T14 schools but after prayer and conversation with my wife we decided to buy a house in Miami set our roots here. We have family in Miami and knew the importance of support and community in this process.

In the Summer I started my PT phase mixed in with an extra LG foolproof section. I was doing 1 PT a week and taking a day to blind review every section. Around this time I also was fortunate enough to be tutored by @Logician alongside someone else. At this point I was PTing in the mid-low 160's with BR in the high 160's low 170's. By far LG was my strongest with LR being my second best section and RC was a crapshoot. The passages about heavy science killed me but if it was a kind section I could score as low as -3 with a BR -0 but on a bad day -8/9/10. I was able to average around -2/3 on LG and always BR -0. For LR it was also inconsistent but always in the -4 to -8 range. While I wasn't where I wanted to be I felt that I had a strong chance of scoring in the mid 160's with hopes and dreams of catching the perfect test to catapult me to upper 160's. I took the August 2021 test, it was the first one that reintroduced an experimental section. I actually felt great taking the test except for after the break when I lost my concentration due to a longer than expected break because of the proctor. Once I took the test, I took a week off completely and then started working on my apps. I had roughly put stuff together during the summer, asking for letters of rec, my transcripts and ideas for my essays. I had close to everything ready but my test results. They came in at a 161 and I was upset but processed it and realized it was within my score range and decided to retest in October. At this point I decided to finish my apps and apply to the two local schools (FIU and UM) and let them know I would be retesting in October. At this point I was burnt out and not motivated but kept doing LG sections for fun and to stay somewhat sharp. In the end, October rolled around and again I felt good about the test but scored a 160. I was pretty disappointed in myself because I had high expectations of myself and kept reading about everyone scoring highly. Ultimately, I decided that I would shoot my shot with my score and GPA. It was bittersweet and a moment of surrender. I believe in God and that belief really helped me throughout my study process and also having a sense that my identity wasn't wrapped in my scores.

I am happy that I was blessed to be accepted in both of the schools I applied to and received generous scholarship offers. It was a long journey with a lot of ups and downs but I'm so thankful for everything I learned. If you've made it this far, congratulations! I hope my story can be of some encouragement and a reminder that not everyone on here is a super genius with a 175+ score. Most importantly I hope if you read this you'll be reminded that this test has no bearing on your identity and despite your spiritual journey I believe you are loved by God.

Thank you 7sage!!!!

What's the wisdom about drinking coffee before lsat?

How do coffee-addicts adjust to lsat?

I've had severe coffee withdrawl for the last 2-3 days (cramps, nausea, fogginess) when tried in the past.

Hello all,

After receiving consecutively poor scores on PT in 2020 I decided to change my approach to this test by going through the CC first before PTing again. I initially was doing just LG but I realized midway through that that I actually need help with everything and decided to go through the entire CC from the first lesson. I work as a paralegal full-time and sometimes I can only devote 1 hour a day to studying. I am wondering if this is the best use of time. Let me know what you guys think.