I've been studying for this test for a year and a half now. June will be my 3rd time taking the test, and over the course of my prep, I've taken pretty much every PT at least once. Right now, I'm scoring high 160's to low 170's, but I'm concerned that I'm getting these scores because I'm remembering the answers to some of the questions from before- especially for LC and RC. Does anyone have any advice on how to study for the test with this issue?

Hi everyone!

For context: I have been prepping for about a year and am now PT averaging in the high 160's (167-168). I work full time, and various personal delays have made this a very long process. I have limited time to study during the week, and am looking to maximize my efficiency as I study for the June exam. I started with a goal of 165, so ultimately I'm happy with my score, but I didn't get this far by being a quitter and I'd love to crack the 170 barrier if I can!

I have been using 7sage to take Flex simulations and currently I'm averaging about -3-4 in each section, with some variance depending on the PT. The spooky part is that I always get 11 questions wrong (seriously, it's weird to the point of absurdity).

Other than the random curve-breaker, 180 only, questions, the only LR question types I get wrong are flaw, parallel, and parallel flaws. I am currently drilling each of them but I worry that isn't the best use of my remaining time.

JY saved my life with the logic games, but I've still had trouble going to a consistent -0.

I have never done any serious formal RC prep; I have always been an incredibly strong reader and my Economist subscription helped me up my score even further. I realized I was confusing main point/primary purpose questions, and that's because I didn't actually recognize the difference in what these two were asking. I haven't taken another RC section since learning this, but based on my previous sections I think I should see a 1-2 point improvement per section.

With all this in mind, is continuing LR prep still a good use of time? The LSAT is a skills test and I worry that I've crossed the threshold on this section's skill development, and that two weeks isn't enough to improve any further.

-Should I redirect my efforts and try to close the LG gap? Like everyone else I have seen the most dramatic score improvement in LG, but I've heard those gains tend to level off as you whittle away each last point.

-Alternatively, should I focus on RC fundamentals and try to make improvements there?

If I'm able to get five more questions right, that would put my score at or around a 172. I think that if I drill enough LG, combined with a single point RC and LR gain in each section, I can make up that gap.

Is this realistic in two weeks? Should I be working harder to cement my average? I'd rather not, but is it worth it to postpone to August? I'm personally sick of this test and I don't want to deal with a fourth section, so this is a nuclear option, but if the consensus is that I can seriously improve by then I may just do that.

I'm sorry for the long post, but any and all advice is greatly appreciated!

I opened PP on chrome today, usually use firefox, and it asked if I wanted to install the app, "to get there faster." How long has THIS been available? I feel like I just sped some prep up with easier access to the library of PTs.

for any of the April testtakers, if it WAS available back then, did it screw up your test-day? did you have to use it to take the exam? I'm trying to replicate test day for June and I don't want to rely on the app v. chrome too much if I'll be testing on chrome for test day. ... not that it makes THAT much of a difference

Hi everyone! I recently started listening to JY's podcast from the beginning and there is a lot of talk of different webinars/recorded online tutoring sessions and such. Does anyone know where these would be found or if they are even still available? Thanks in advance!

A study friend of mine created this post. I have never used Princeton Review and am confused why said friend wouldn't at least try (through trial and error) to score the exact same answers using the NON-FLEX option, compared to posting a public question attached to my (now changed) username containing first/last name without permission. Sorry about that...

When did the LSAT move from their usual 5 sections (1 section experimental) to the now 4 sections (1 section experimental)? I am taking the August LSAT and I know it consists of 4 sections with 1 being experimental but it seems odd that in the past, students were scored on more questions.

Sorry for the long message - have been nervous about this upcoming flex but also don't want to lose the momentum and would so value any advice.

I started studying this past December (on and off) and took my first flex in April. Despite scoring (on average) between 168-172, I had technical difficulties and was a bit below my range & canceled my score. Looking back on it, I probably should've waited until I was consistently breaking 170 to even take the exam. Looking forward, I really want to get to a place where I am consistently breaking 172/173 (my goal being T-14).

In the time since the April exam, I've taken 9 exams with scores of 170, 167, 169, 171, 169, 169, 177, 174, and 168 respectively. Because of the range / inconsistency, I feel anxious about taking the June exam (my second try) but want to make sure I'm not making a mistake because I will likely have to take this summer off for the most part. I am entering my senior year of college so if i I moved it I would take my second try sometime next year, but I unfortunately feel like I have burned through a lot of the more recent practice tests (I've done most of the 60s, and all of the 70s and 80s). This summer, I'll be working full time and will likely have little time to study, but was planning on doing some problems from the core curriculum each week so I don't lose my progress.

I guess my two questions are 1) do you think I am correct to move my test date until I consistently am breaking 170s or did it always fluctuate for you? (I've heard of people always having variance and then hitting their best on test day, but it clearly didn't work that well for me the first time so want to be more strategic now) 2) how long would you wait to "forget" the tests I've already done? If I spend this summer doing solely problems from PTs 35 and earlier (core curriculum) and pick back up with full length PTs starting in September or October, is that enough time to forget the tests I've done from December - now? What's the best way to proceed from here so I can more confidently hit 175? (I struggle most with logic games so will definitely drill those first)

So sorry for the incredibly long message and thank you for any advice! I have to decide today or tomorrow about moving the test for free so any advice is greatly appreciated.

Can anyone explain to me the difference between the list of PrepTests 1-35 and the old LSAT's that are used as PrepTests?

All are welcome to attend my pity party.

Here is where I am at, I am hoping you guys can provide some insight or guidance on where to move forward from here.

I started studying in April and have been at it full time for the past 2 months. I completed the CC and have been taking 1 PT and BR virtually every day in May. My diagnostic at the beginning of this journey was 153. Most of my PT's since then have been in the 70's and my scores were steadily improving, moving up from 155 to 158/9's and I even got like 5 PT's in the low 160's! I was flying high and looking forward to writing in June and getting this all done and over with. With my GPA (3.98), a score of 159/160 should be good to get me into the school in my hometown (while I would be happy to attend other schools in my country which are less competitive, moving would be much more financially challenging for me/partner and therefore not ideal).

But I have recently been taking tests in the 80's and my scores have noticeably dropped. I am back where I started pretty much. I can tell that the newer tests are different, whereas before I had time to spare in each section, now I am struggling to finish in time and rushing through (and subsequently making more silly mistakes). The gains I have made in the LG section are fairly constant which is nice since originally they were my worst section. But in the 80s I am doing worse in both RC and LR. RC used to be my best section whereas LR has always killed me. I average about 10 wrong in LR. I have noticed that before the 80s, when I got questions wrong and I watched the video/read everyones comments, I would eventually understand why my answer was wrong and the correct one was correct. It was rare that there would be questions that I absolutely could not grasp or I could not be sold on the correct AC. But now I am finding in the 80's there are multiple questions where I just do not get or I really do not agree with the correct AC. More ambiguous I guess? To me, at least.

Anyways, a week ago when I was taking the 70s I was feeling confident to write in June. But now my confidence has tanked and I am wondering if I should defer. I have heard the 80s are more representative of what the current tests are like. If that is the case, and it follows that since I suck at the 80s I will suck at the real thing. And of course, my overdramatic brain has me thinking that maybe I should quit now since these tests have confirmed that I really do have no business trying to do this whole law school thing. Trying not to follow that train of thought but its tempting.

Has anyone else experienced struggles like this, specifically with the 80s? Is it true that they are what I can expect on the real thing? Should I indeed postpone my June LSAT? Any other thoughts or suggestions?

Hi everyone!

I'm currently studying super hard for my LSAT and plan to take it this June and it's giving me a lot of anxiety. I I'm currently not scoring where I need too & the school I want to attend has a median LSAT score of a 158. On the other hand, I just graduated college and I have a GPA of a 3.9. I also have a good amount of legal experience on my resume working as a legal assistant, paralegal, and legal intern. Do you guys think that applying either Early Decision or right when applications open in mid-late September -- will increase my chances of getting in? (Also, I know that if I apply ED it is binding so I'm not worried about that because that's where want to go). Please let me know what you guys think! All opinions are appreciated.

Best,

Marcella

Hello & happy studying to all,

I am feeling quite anxious as the June test is approaching and hoping someone can offer me some sound advice. I started studying in February of this year and my plan was to take the June and August LSAT so that I can apply to law school in early September. As I heard from many to apply as early as you can.

To give you some background I started off with a low diagnostic of 141 (yikes). I have been studying consistently each week and have seen improvement (my highest PT being a 156). I am proud of this improvement as I am not the best test taker but I ideally I would like to be in the 160s. In addition, my score has been fluctuating (7 points) and I would like to see more consistency. I am confident that come August I will be able to bridge this gap.

The reason I would like to take the LSAT now is to get one under my belt so that by August I am ready to go and that by end of September all of my applications are submitted. I feel like I am playing with a double edge sword... is it better to wait and take the LSAT in August and then again in October or is it better to apply as early as I can with the June and then the August LSAT. Note- I would like to take the exam twice as I have test anxiety and I know that I will feel more confident the second time around.

If I apply to schools in September but take the October LSAT I hear that my application will be put on hold and they wont review until they receive my final score. Does applying in early September vs mid November have that much of a difference?

Thank you so much for taking the time to read this and hopefully someone can help.

Hello everyone,

I m at my breaking point with this and thinking about not continuing. I am not a quitter but I am just tapped out. I am seeing steady and good progress with LR and LG but RC is kicking my ass. I am missing between 12 and 18, and I am not sure wth I can do to fix this. This is coming from someone who is an avid reader and has always excelled in writing/reading. I don't know what else to do, I am angry with myself because it's just freaking reading, I am honestly both mad and frustrated, can anyone PLEASE point me in the right direction?

I took my first diagnostic exam cold turkey and scored a 137. It's been two days and I have not been able to stop obsessing over my low score. I'm planning on taking the LSAT next June, is it still possible for me to break into the 170s if I received a terrible diagnostic score? I feel so lost and helpless.

Hi guys,

Just looking for some advice about the first-time test taker score cancellation policy available on LSAC. Does it make sense to do this in all cases? I'm taking the June flex and wasn't planning on purchasing it (of course also hoping I'll only have to take the test once), but I saw some people talking about how it is necessary to get it. I'm aiming 160+ if that matters.

Thank you!

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I'm currently registered for the June LSAT (first registration with preview), and since I'm an international, I cannot postpone to the August LSAT, as it is only for US. My PTs have been averaging around the mid 160s but I do want to aim higher. Based on what I know, the best time to apply to law schools is around October, and taking it on October means that I would be receiving my score on November. Would I be at a great disadvantage to be applying a bit later, i.e. November? Should I take the June and see how it goes and take it again on October? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

I have almost done all of the practice tests from PT 19 to PT 88. Currently, I only have two tests fresh. However, I'm still not scoring at my target score. But I have registered for the June exam. I wonder whether I should take the two tests that I have left, or save them for August to evaluate my ability before the August test? And working more on retaking some of the practice tests that I have taken before. Any suggestions would be welcome.

I have been studying following the core curriculum and am at about 70 hours. I am feeling overwhelmed trying to complete as much as the curriculum as possible. I feel like by the time I am halfway there, I am going to forget everything I learned at the very beginning. (It has taken me months!) If you have any suggestions on which sections to focus on, I would greatly appreciate it! For reference, I have issues with the timed aspect with RC and LR (anxiety) and logic games are my weakest. I took the LSAT in November and scored a 147 using Khan Academy only. Any advice helps!

I hate feeling alone and clueless, and that's exactly how I'm feeling as I'm reading (and believing) everything I'm reading online. I would love to have an online buddy to message/chat and bounce ideas off of. Just a little about me: I'm older than "my 20's". Law will be my 2nd career. I'm hoping to go into Biglaw - Corporate/IP maybe, Health or Healthcare Law maybe. Feeling vulnerable, but is anyone looking for the same/similar?

I feel like it's a good idea to do all 4 sections to help with stamina since the August will include the experimental section. I know I prefer doing PT's with 3 sections, but I curious as to what everyone is doing.

Hi all, looking to apply for Fall 2022 and looking for some sort of advice or maybe someone who's gone through something similar.

I've been studying for the LSAT for almooooost a year and I signed up for December 2020, April 2021 and decided to push my test to June coming up. My reasons for pushing the past two times was because I had not reached my goal score of 150. I met that goal in April but by April my new goal score was 155 so I pushed it until June. I'm currently at a 155 plateau and now my new goal score is 160. I'm considering pushing it until October. I feel a lot of guilt for pushing and so I can't decide whether or not to take it in June and then again in October. June would be my third time and October would make it my forth time. My reasoning for June is bad, it's the last flex and it's more curiosity and the fact that it's shorter.

I know this depends on the school and some of the schools that I am looking at take the highest score so technically taking it a fourth time with improvements wouldn't be an issue?

My schools are Drexel law, Temple law, Upenn law (reach), Rutgers, really they're all reach schools in my eyes because law school haha. Any advice? Thank you.

I have a 3.5 GPA and graduated with honors if that's any help. I know the other parts of my application are super important too.

will there be an update on the site to reflect the new testing format? 4 sections but the conversion of a flex or is that asking too much lol

Had a general question about overall LSAT strategy... I took the April LSAT flex for the first time and had tech glitches / proctor u problems that really created severe test anxiety for me (had to reschedule once, waited for hours on the day I actually had to take due to a tech glitch, proctor interrupted me etc). I got in the lower 160s (had been PTing 167 - 174)

In preparation for that test, I had done almost all of the PTs in the 60s - 80s starting with my studing in Jan 2021, and unfortunately feel like I had burned through the most recent PTs. To prepare for the June test, I've been doing PTs in the 50s which were totally new for me and redoing tests I had taken 5 - 6 months ago (so I've seen them, but its been awhile). I got a 177 on a test in the 50s that I had never done, and have been getting between 169 - 177 on the rest of the 7 tests I've taken post April Flex (although again, some I had done months ago and some were totally new tests to me).

I am still really anxious given I feel like I can take this 2-3 times at most for the T-14... am I better off waiting until I am consistently breaking 175? How will I know when I'm prepared given I still feel like I fluctuate? I was planning on applying to a junior year deferral program which is why I am aiming for June, but if I didn't do that I definitely want to work 1-2 years post grad (am entering my senior year). If I don't take the June test the earliest test I could take would be next fall (and will be working full time this summer so likely will take 3 months off). Am I better off taking a few months off so I forget the more recent PTs or is it dumb to lose my momentum and I should take the June test given where I'm at now (with the caveat that the higher scores are either on tests in the 50s or tests I'm redoing).

I signed up for June exam and have an accommodation for unstable internet. I am very worried about the WIFI issue since it stopped working for several minutes at my house once when I took my PT. But I am not sure if hotel will be a better choice since it will be a unfamiliar setting and may have some unforeseeable issue. Any suggestions about this WIFI thing or any recommendations for hotel or place in Boston or MA that will have stable internet for sure?

Many thanks in advance!

Hello everyone. i am looking to hire a LSAT tutor. My highest score is 155 on a PT and 151 on official LSAT. My end goal is 170. Please let me know if we can work together. I work full time and am available to meet virtually anytime after 6pm CST and during the weekends. thank you