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My diagnostic has been mid 160s but I doubt I'll score anywhere near that. I also can't seem to focus 100% on lsat since I have a very, very stressful job
What should I do..
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Tomorrow will be the day I take an initial diagnostic test for the LSAT—should I start with a more recent test from the selection of practice tests, or does it not matter all that much? Thanks.
I took the LSAT years ago and got a 158 and 159, I took it again this July after using 7sage and got 158 again. I know where I could have done better. My Logic games I just was drawing blanks on the first game and jumped to the next one, I feel pretty confident on the next 2 games but with the 4th and going back to the 1st I had about 7 minutes to complete. So with that had to take the time to get the easy for sure questions and guess on the back half with time running down for games 1 and 4.
Just wondering how much those two games probably hurt my score and any other advice besides just repetition of past games?
My RC is probably my strongest area I actually finished my section with about 6 minutes left to go back and play with a few I was unsure of, so not a lot of room for improvement there.
My LR is pretty solid there could be a little more improvement there, but the games is always what kill my score.
Hello!
I've just about exhausted most LG sections and figured I could benefit from teaching LG as I'm approaching the Nov Test (I also took the Oct Test).
A little about me:
I go 0/-1 on most LG sections with 7+minutes to spare for most sections. I have a slight background in formal/deductive logic which I think helps a lot when it comes to inferences and conditionals.
I think I can be of most help to those wanting to get faster, and learning how to better diagram/make inferences!
I'm wanting to hopefully tutor after the Nov Test, and would love to get as much experience as possible as knowing how to do X is very different from teaching X.
Shoot me a message if this is something you would be interested in :)
Best of luck studying!
Does anybody think its not necessary to add in an experimental section? In my opinion i just don't see it working well for me. Not knowing which one is experimental seems to be the worst factor which is eliminated when you add in your own. On top of that i warm up a good bit before a PT, which rules out fatigue. And honestly i don't think i can be worried about fatigue when i study for 5-8 hours on average. Thoughts?
Hi! I have done all the 60-80's PTs and now have to rely on the older exams (30-50)and was wondering which ones have you found to be the most similar? Is it bad to base a practice test on the older exams? Should I redo 60-80PT's? I took some about 3 months ago but it is not a fresh test so am worried.
Some schools note at least 2 recommendation letters, with max of 3 or 4, and I was wondering how many are you guys submitting?
Hi 7Sage Community!
My question is, how many questions can you get wrong in order to get a 160? LSAT's grading sort of confuses me with some tests needing more points and others needing less points to get a 160. I do not know if in the more new LSATs it is harder to get a 160.
So I have been studying for awhile and I am hitting around a 154. RC is my worst, averaging -11 (slow reader). In LG and LR, I am averaging around a -7 on both. I have only taken 4 practice tests so far. My goal score is a 160.
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Im flipping tf out rn after doing test 86 rc. My test is next month and im just completely over it especially since that section was trash. Im trying to manage my test anixety but nothing is working.
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The recent rise in LSAT scores after flex has been factors like this:
While I can see 2 and 3 as plausible, I have a hard time believing that 100 or so students aren't just cheating through tech (won't explain how). I'm pretty sure that the "tech" people monitoring who make $9 an hour aren't super vigilant on eye movements or on something that is suspicious.
This isn't the craziest thing people have done for the sake of improving. People cheat on the SAT/GRE/online classes all the time with similar tech that's a joke to enforce.
The amount of people that improved on the 170s tremendously and wouldn't be surprised jumped the line having the percentiles changed.
Hey everyone!
I hope things are going well and studying hasn't been too stressful! I'm looking for some tips or advice, I've been plateauing in the mid 160's for about 3 weeks (I'd be content with that for sure, my goal score is right around there), but I was wondering if anyone had tips for the things I should work on to make a final jump? I got my first -0 today in the LG section (from -12 or 13 early on!) and my RC is something I'm pretty consistent with, usually -7ish. But my LR can be crazy inconsistent. Today the PT I took, both LR sections were 3 star difficulty, and I got -1 on one and -10 on the other. I've been blind reviewing and drilling the questions that the analytics page says I struggle with pretty often. I might've hit my peak score band because some of the questions are super difficult for me to understand even after BRing and watching explanation videos. It'd be nice to go up a little though so I could feel more at ease on test day.
I've been preparing LSAT for almost a year and I was originally planning to apply in the 2021-2022 cycle. I took the Aug test as my first try and got screwed. It seems to me that the LSAT became harder after it changed to 4 sections and the difficulty levels are closed to PT 80s. My LG is unstable, LR makes little progress and RC is a complete nightmare. I was originally planning to take the November test but the schoolwork burned me out and my study schedule got messed up it seems like I made no improvement over the past months. I got so frustrated and I literally had no motivation to practice at all. I'm right now thinking about postponing the November test to Jan and apply next year, but the pressure of worrying about I could not make improvement even if I postpone it makes me want to cry. The pressure of schoolwork, LSAT prep, and job searching for next year all add up and makes me feel so lost rn. I know I sounds like a spoiled school kid who can not handle pressure (I know many people who are in the workforce also struggled with LSAT prep and somehow manage to succeed) , but at this stage I just want to write out my true thoughts and I wonder if there's anyone who also decide to change their original plan from applying this year to next year because of struggles with the test change. Want to hear more thoughts and advice from ppl who are experiencing similar things. Thx
Is anyone having issues with Lawhub today? I know testing is going on right now but it's moving so slowwwwwww and I'm trying to get some last min studying in.
Hi! I'm PT'ing 170-174 and am posting to ask if anyone else who consistently scores above 170 would like to have a 30 minute 1-on-1 Zoom call with me, in which we can take turns presenting the most valuable insights we've had in our studies so far. These insights can be general or specific-- whatever has helped you most!
I've completed the core curriculum and so personally would like to use our Zoom call as an opportunity to discuss insights outside the core curriculum. There will probably be a little bit of repetition/overlap, but let's mostly try to break new ground!
I can spend about 1/2 hour presenting the following:
Message me personally if you're interested and we can set up a time! In your message, feel free to let me know what you've been scoring and maybe give a super brief preview of what you might want to present.
Best of luck to everyone in their studies! :D
Hey 7sagers!
A group of us are discussing how to represent the following sentence:
"A and B are exactly two spaces apart"
We can't seem to agree on how to represent it. There isn't a specific logic game example I can post that has this language but it came up because it was seen in this book "The LSAT Logic Puzzle Book: Are You Smarter than a Lawyer?"
Posting here for a fun discussion/debate and to hopefully take your mind off the October exam for those who took it! :)
I scored a 139 on the June FLEX. Some of you might remember a post I made when the June 2021 FLEX scores were released. I still am devastated, but the malaise since then has waned and I am again driven to try to win the LSAT. I just deleted all of my progress in the core cirriculum and I'm starting over from 0. I've since signed up for an introductory logic course at the local community college for the fall semester, while treating this (7 Sage) like another 3hr/5 days a week class. I have no excuses why I can't study in the mornings, so I must and I will.. I honestly don't even care about Law School anymore. I just want to tackle this monstrosity of a test, however long it takes. I'll worry about Law school and admissions and all that other stuff when I get a score that I can personally be happy with and meets my goals. I don't care if it takes 5 years or 10 years. I wrote down some goals to keep me consistent, sober, and healthy while attempting to overcome this rigorous barrier to my successful, legal career. Every comment posted onto my June 30th, 2021 post was encouraging and motivating. People describing their tribulations through this trial of the mind gave me some needed self reflection on why I am doing this and what I hope to accomplish beyond the LSAT. But for now, I am only researching programs and schools to keep me motivated to study and take seriously this feat of intelligence. I look forward to studying along side you all.
When you focus hundreds of hours in the old PT's and finally catch up, it's another level, but not a level of to train more to exceed.
It's obvious when looking at the meta-scores that for the LSAC too many people are hitting 170 so they are making it so absurd that some questions are bound to cause people to have issues. It's disturbing as well that they are going to remove Logic Games because people are "getting it". And it's obvious that when LG is so clear cut they won't remove questions nor have it contested, yet with new PT I see 30 - 40% answers right ON THE FIRST 10 QUESTIONS.
This test went from understanding the theory behind the questions to making sure you understand any upcoming tricks.
It's outrageous that you have to spend 300-400 hours to get 170s and then slip back to the 160's since God forbid law schools weigh 70% instead of 75% of your weight-in application.
And before people start to defend the LSAC, it's the LSAC that caused the pressure for schools to get this achievement mentality to 170. 170 doesn't mean top 10%, it's the top 2.5% yet schools will do absolutely everything to get into that 170 elite status,
It's already bad enough that Hispanics get average 146, now I'm facing this test like the ending of Glengarry Glen Ross , where I thought I had it until the realization that it was mere delusion.
Hello 7sagers!
My LSAT study buddy and I BR together. However, we are both scoring around the same on our actual score (low-mid 150's) and BR (mid-high 160's). We are looking for someone who is scoring higher to BR with us. Any advice would be helpful.
Hi everyone! I have some free time and would love to provide some free tutoring. I have no official score yet but have been scoring high 160s/low 170s on recent PTs after receiving a diagnostic of 146 back in the beginning of the year. DM if you’re interested or have any questions, thanks!
I've been soooo focused on studying for the LSAT that I never even bothered to prep for the writing section. Any tips to help prepare? I took the LSAT this past Sunday and I'm planning on doing the writing tomorrow.
Hi friends, I see 7sage has the LSAT score simulator where you input the number of errors and get the LSAT score of the latest PrepTests. It then gives you a score probability. However, I've heard that the new curves are brutal, perhaps due to there being more applicants, to Flex, or even to people having more study-time.
With that in mind, is the 7sage predictor accurate? When it says "latest" PrepTests is it referring to the ones available on 7sage or to the actual ones dispensed by LSAC? The latest PT on 7sage is May 2020, so it is barely taking into account COVID Flex Tests. This could mean that the simulator is outdated and off by now since there's been a drastic increase in test-takers and good score since 2020.
I think it'd be good to know for many of us what actually constitutes a 170 this year. Is it -7 or -6 even?
Thank you!
Does anyone have recent experience with the experimental sections of the test? Are you able to tell which one it is?