I have found that I am much more attentive during my PTs when I consume a moderate amount of coffee. This would be expected. That being said, it comes with the side effect of non-stop bathroom breaks. The alternative is caffeine pills (~100mg), which would not have the same adverse effect. Unfortunately, the FDA will not allow pills to be made with pure caffeine because people could have cardiac arrest. This also means that the pills typically have other sketchy ingredients to fill in the gap. Caffeine would especially help with reading comprehensions and maintaining awareness. Any ideas?

I've been PTing in the 170-178 range, with quite a bit of fluctuation in this range. I scored a 170 on the actual exam and I'm aiming for a score in the high-170s.

Given my personal schedule/commitments, I'll basically have to take 4 months away from studying for the test. During this time, I really won't be able to study with the exemption of possibly one day per week. I will have time to study after these 4 months, though. I'm not in a huge rush to retake the test.

I think I know the fundamentals very well, with the exemption of some topics: I'm not 100% solid on Formal Logic yet and I haven't really spent a lot of time working on the rare game types, namely pattern games, mapping games, circular games (according to the PowerScore classification).

I'm not quite perfect on any of the sections yet, but I have gotten in the -0 to -3 range for each. I probably need more work on all three sections.

After about 4 months away from the test, I might need some refreshing of the fundamentals. I'm not sure exactly how much I'll have forgotten. But I'm sure I can get the knowledge/speed/fluency back quite quickly even after 4 months away from the test. I've been on 7Sage for a while now, but I've just never used the Core Curriculum. I've mostly just watched the explanation videos by J.Y.

Is it worth going through the entire Core Curriculum? How long does it take to do so? And will someone scoring in the 170s already find value in doing so?

Also curious about those of you who have gone through Mike Kim's LSAT Trainer. I've already read the PowerScore LG and LR books and the Manhattan RC book. I've watched a lot of J.Y.'s explanations for all three sections. I bought the Trainer a long time before I actually started studying but I've barely touched it. I've heard good things about it. But I'm just wondering whether this is just far too basic for someone already in the 170s.

Thank you all!

After nearly 8 months of studying, I've finally made the leap into the 170s. I feel so relieved and happy that all this work is paying off.

To give a bit of background, I began studying last Fall by myself out of a workbook. I had no real idea about the "racket" that exists around studying for the LSAT, so I figured any study guide is just as good, plus I didn't want to pay a ton of money before I knew I needed to.

So I self-studied, and improved by a lot - first PT was a 155, and my Jan Flex score was a 167. Huge leap, and I felt good about it, but toward the end of that test prep I was becoming incredibly frustrated by how I was getting stuck in the upper 160s.

After only 2.5-3 months of 7Sage, I've made that leap and just had my first 171 PT (before blind review)!

I think what really did help was the timeframe. I know it sounds completely insane when JY says you should ideally spend a year studying for this test, but it did help to percolate on these concepts. I think what facilitated the leap was a really fundamental understanding of two things:

Argument structure. Being really quick and accurate on determining this is a premise, this is a sub-conclusion, this is the main conclusion...especially for the harder, wordier questions, this foundational knowledge is what kept me from panicking toward the back half of the LR section. Accuracy is key here, which I honed in all these f-ing Problem Sets! Do the Problem Sets! Consider it like homework in high school - it's a time suck, but it's training your brain like lifting weights.

Complete understanding of Sufficient vs. Necessary, and how to translate to and from Lawgic quickly and accurately. At this point, the questions I'm missing are mostly ones where I either screw up the Lawgic translation, or I don't "have enough time" so I try to speed through thinking that my brain is a little bit better than it is at holding these concepts without jumbling them. I have a study sheet that I keep next to me while I work that breaks down the 4 categories of Lawgic indicators, and I will constantly glance at it as I go through the lessons and Problem Sets. I take it away during the PTs, but I allow myself this security blanket during the Problem Sets because again, it helps me not panic and it's kinda like training wheels...the PTs are the time to take off the training wheels and see how you hold up on your own. If you feel like you're getting totally bogged down in remembering the Lawgic indicators, try to find ways to give yourself these training wheels and slowly take them away. Like the lifting weights analogy, you've gotta build up to the heaviest lifting.

So while I came to 7Sage hoping to get some great insider tips or that intangible, key thing I was missing, and discovered that I really, really just needed a stronger foundation. For those worried about the breadth of material you may still have to study, I hope I can encourage you all to not skimp on the basics, even if they feel redundant. I cannot tell you how many "hard" questions I was able to blow through because I could identify the structure and specifically how the premise relates to the conclusion, and therefore realize that all the wrong answers were way off because they didn't relate to the premise and conclusion. The test began to open up for me once you solidified a fundamental understanding of grammatical structure (and took my ego out of the picture).

Best of luck to all of you, and hope you all find the same satisfaction as I did today!

Hello everyone - I'm looking for people who might be interested in some free LR LG RC tutoring.

I'm consistently scoring in the high 160s and low 170's and hoping that tutoring will help me perform better on the actual test.

Please PM if you're interested!!

Was wondering how people do this. I have recently done the first RC/LG, and then go to the longest one. then do the rest.

Hi there!

Knowing that the exams from August onward will include a fourth section of either LR, LG, or RC chosen at random, will the 7Sage prep test simulator be updated to reflect a random fourth section? Or would we have to build our own scenarios within the problem sets? At present, it looks like problem sets can only be built for one section type at a time.

Thanks!

#help

Hey all,

I'm registered for the June LSAT. I have been studying/ watching 7sage videos and practicing since the beginning of February. For the final stretch what makes the most sense studying wise? Should I be doing a practice test weekly, biweekly? I have not completed all of the videos and practice sets but have a brief familiarity with every section. My weakest section is definitely Logic Games. Any advice? Thank you!!

I just noticed that LSAC has offically announced all LSAT tests after Augest will be come back to offline, and there will be only three formal sections: 1 RC, 1 LG, 1 LR and 1 test sections.

However, the current 7sage is undoublely emphasizing LR sections since in past there are 2 LR sections. There are about 120 hours of course, in contrast with 40 hours for LG and RC.

Just wondering should we put more effort on RC and LG right now with the change of LSAT mentioned above?

Looking to tutor 1-2 people free of cost. The requirements are that you've gone through the CC (thoroughly) and are currently in the PT/Section phase of your studies. Low-income/students with fee waivers will get preference. We'll have a brief call where you can tell me about yourself and your goals to see if we're a good fit.

I've been tutoring casually for a while now, however, I myself am still a student of the LSAT and will be the first person to admit if I don't feel as though I can help or don't understand something. Last 3 PT avg is 174.5/180 BR.

Hello friends. I'm curious about what metric our practice tests are gauged against. The "average" score that is shown next to my practice test results - is that the average of 7sagers while they're working on the curriculum? Is it an average of everyone who has taken the LSAT? Is it the average of students who are studying for the LSAT?

Thank you in advance.

#help

I know you can cancel your LSAT score after 6 days of taking the exam, I think? Then it'll show as canceled on your record. However, if you do a registration refund way before taking the exam, will your record show canceled or withdrawn/refunded? Also, how bad is it to see a withdrawn/refunded on your record?

Hey! I purchased the LSAT 1-year membership last summer. I have done almost all of the lessons and maybe 2 practice tests through the entirety of this year. Life has been rough AF. I am from SWLA Louisiana and we were hit very hard with 2 hurricanes (leaving campus destroyed) and COVID19. Nonetheless, I still plan to take the last LSAT-Flex in June. After much time away from 7sage, I made a 148 cold; BR is a 156. I plan to review over everything today. It looks like I missed the most in reading comprehension. This is in addition due to running out of time, so I could not finish the sections. Of course, this score is not horrible considering I went in not doing it for a long time, however, it is certainly not where I want to be. It seems like I just need to get into the groove of taking PTs. Hopefully I should see a boost if PTs are done consistently??

My study plan is to do 2 PTs a week with a BR section every day in between. Any advice? Your projection of my score if I kept this plan? Do I need to amp it up to 4 or 3PTs a week? I would be okay with an 155, however, I want a 160 to be comfortable. (not sure if thats even possible rn) Just let me know what you all think!

hey everyone, I'm trying to change the credit card I have on billing with 7sage. do I need to cancel and re subscribe or something? will my progress be lost? sorry if this has been done before, but thanks!

I've been listening to the podcasts and have learned that some people will tutor for free to gain a better understanding of the test. I'm just wondering if anyone is tutoring for free currently? :)

I'm scoring in the 160s and would like to be 170+ by August! Any help is really appreciated :)

Is there a way to take 5 section exams on 7sage?

Hi all, would anybody know what the experience of taking the LSAT at home might be like for someone with time-based accommodations? For example, will the proctors already have my proof of eligibility, or will I need to show them my letter? Do I get placed in a separate room? Has anyone run into problems with this? Thank you!

Hi!

I just signed up for the August 2021 LSAT. Since this test will have four sections instead of three with the experimental section being added, for practice test purposes would you suggest that I stick to taking practice tests with just three sections with the Flex option or should I do all four sections of a test?

Thank you

I'm reading a book called Limitless (not to be confused with the movie!) right now alongside my LSAT studies, and it's helped me, a self-defeating-prone type, tremendously reevaluate my potential for success and abilities to grow. One thing that's continued to challenge me is missing the "silliest" things--a stray word here that changes the entire meaning of a stimulus, or choosing a CBT when the Q-stem asked me to pick the MBF, or most recently skipping over a "non-X" in a game and reading it as an "X." When I realize what I've done, I figuratively and literally facepalm.

And then I'd plunge into a very serious downward spiral of "What is wrong with me? I'm just always going to make these oversights, no matter how carefully I try to read." Earlier in my prep when everything was new and scary, it was "How am I ever going to learn, remember, and be able to apply this confusing lesson before me, let alone the entire LSAT Everest of things that remain? I guess I'm just not cut out for it."

My friend, NO.

One of the anecdotes in Limitless is probably a familiar one to many. It's the one about Einstein and his tendencies to make little calculation errors on his path to giving us some of the most formative theories in science today. In spite of all these mistakes, he is the literal image that comes to mind when we think of "genius" in any field. But it resonated with me this morning as I was reading of his struggles as a student and thought about my own on the LSAT.

If anyone needed to read this today, just know that you're not alone. Many of us are in this boat, which may look a little different from one day to the next, but you know what? We're still paddling our way forward when the motor isn't speeding us along. Sometimes the winds of understanding and lawgic are in our sails; but other times it may feel like they're pushing hard against us. You and I, we may not be perfect or anywhere close to it. We will still make mistakes along the way, but it's not because we're never going to get it, nor because we're "bound to" make them. I am not. You are not. We can train ourselves to get better, think more critically, miss those operative words less, and overcome difficultly-worded sentences, paragraph by paragraph, game by game, question by question. You may need to change up your methods or ask for help. No shame there; I'm pretty sure all the 7Sage legends have at some point in their prep. Your practice will translate into progress, and as long as you still want to defeat this beast of a test, you CAN fight today's battle.

And don't forget to relish your "small" victories along the way; as an LSAT student now and a soon-to-be law school student, these milestones are your proof in the pudding and strongly support the claim you must make everyday: I may struggle through it, but I can do this. I am not my mistakes, no matter how many I make or how "silly" they are in retrospect. But they can be much more than just the thing I didn't do right:

"Was Einstein considered a failure because of his mistakes? Hardly. Most importantly he didn’t let his mistakes stop him. He kept experimenting and making contributions to his field. He is famously quoted as having said, 'A person who never made a mistake never tried anything new.' What’s more, no one remembers him for his mistakes—we only remember him for his contributions... You might think you have to be perfect, but life is not about comparing yourself to anyone else; it’s about measuring yourself compared to who you were yesterday. When you learn from your mistakes, they have the power to turn you into something better than you were before."*

That is all. Carry on, LSAT Einsteins-in-the-making :)

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*Kwik, Jim. Limitless (p. 96-97).

Any help on this question @Juliet-- would be greatly appreciated! If i were to pull out of taking the June test for example, what is the last date i can do so where it won't show up on my record?

Thanks!

I at first thought a 170 would get me into the school I wanted, but now I'm hearing many more people are getting 180s. I feel like the 2022 cycle is going to be more competitive, so really should I be shooting for a 175?

Hi!

I have a few questions regarding practice tests.

First, after taking a practice exam, should i keep studying and doing problem sets? Or is it better take a break after the exam and continue studying the next day.

Second, how do I get the most out of my practice tests? Meaning, in order to improve significantly on the next exam, what measures should I take? Should I go through all the questions I got wrong and figure out why they were wrong and what answer makes it right? Should I redo the games and think of better strategies to tackle them? In terms of reading comp, do I re read the passages to try and understand them better?

Also, how do I get better with time? I tried to do the regular 35 min time limit but caught myself significantly running out of time so I used the 50% added time. It definitely helped but next time I want to really try and finish successfully within the allocated time I will be given on the actual test.

Any tips and strategies would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!!

hi, I feel like the website has been really slow to load problem sets, pdfs, and even the discussion board over the past few days. Other websites have been working just fine, so I'm inclined to think that this isn't a wifi issue? Just wondering if I'm the only one experiencing this, but if not, would really appreciate a fix! thank you :)

On the LSAC website I read that only 3/4 of the sections are actually scored (taking the test in August so it will not be flex). Since 7sage marks all 4 sections, is the score given by 7sage inaccurate? I got a 162 on my first practice LSAT with only the free trial under my belt and I am very happy about it, but is my actual score lower?

Hi... I need help downloading the PDF's for the logic games.

It asks for a password but I wanted to confirm is the password the same one when I log into my account?

I have tried that and it does not work.

Looking for some help, thanks!

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