Was wondering if anyone had any positive reccomendations from any of the 7 sage approved tutors? LR and RC need improvement, games is solid. Mostly RC, especially the variability

So I am days away from the october test and I just honestly need someone to talk to and vent. I started studying for the lsat in february of 2019 with testmasters, cold diag was 151. Fast forward to the july test I was averaging around 159 with my highest two tests being a 163 and 166. Ended up gettting a 155 though I partially blame this on the fact that I got a paper test and had only taken digital practice tests. Currently my average is about a 164 but I hit 166/ 165 very frequently. Although I am planning on sitting for the exam on monday, I also have a seat for november. Can someone please tell me things I can do to maximize my time before the november admin to break 170 on the real thing? I have been testing twice a week for months and have already taken 35 PTs. My weakness for certain is RC (started -12, now more like -7/8) but I am unsure if I should strive to get better at LR to go -0 on that or where my efforts are better spent. I have a 3.7 GPA and my top choice is NYU but I would also be okay to go to Fordham. Is the november test too late to apply to a reach school? Can I hit my goal of 170 on the real administration in one month? Or would I be better off just applying with my october score when it comes? Thank you!

I did one section on paper and then transferred over the answers, but I made a mistake transferring. Any way I can change an answer without having to delete all the test data or at least delete data only for one section?

Hi 7sagers,

I am preparing for the October test. Scores of my PTs went down from lower 170 ~ 175 two weeks ago to 168 (PT56) yesterday, and 167 (PT57) today. The differences mainly come from LRs. Previously I missed 3~6 questions in total in LR, while yesterday and today, I lost 9/10 points.

Really don't know why this happened and have no clue about what I can do today/tomorrow to avoid this in the real test. Anyone had the same experience before? Any tips on coming back to the normal/higher range?

I guess one possible reason of this is I am a little burnt out. Have been studying really hard with a lot of pressure in the past three weeks, and would do 1 or even 2 PTs everyday with some other basic drills. I have reduced my study this week to avoid getting burnt out, although I still spent 6+ hours in the library for LSAT everyday ..

Any advice is highly appreciated! Thanks!

Anyone know if Digital LSAT will be introduced in Asia by Jan?

Or do we just have to wait and see?

I just took PT 88, did my blind review, now I want to foolproof the logic games using the digital tester. I don't see how to do that -- all I see is reviewing answers on the test, or creating a PDF of it.

#help

Hi everyone! I scored a 147 on the September test and am taking it again in November. Since then I’ve improved on LG a ton and RC a little. I’m looking to score between a 155-160 with 158 as my set goal. My last two practice tests were a 152, 158, but then a 145 today. I did a section a day during the week and got a 152. Not sure why my score is fluctuating so much but it’s really discouraging. Does anyone have any study advice?

Today I had my third "breakthrough" score and highest Prep Test to date. Earlier this week I scored 170 on PT 86 and this morning I scored 177 on PT 75. The only thing I did differently was skip every question type in LR I knew I would struggle with. At the end of both LR sections I had flagged three questions and had over ten minutes to think through them. This led to -1 for each section. Needless to say, I am now a believer in this strategy.

I usually miss -1/-3 on one LR section and -3/-5 on the other so having -2 through two sections feels really good. Also, I cleaned 23/23 on Logic Games which is rewarding because I practiced about 15 hours on fool-proofing this week. If you don't fool-proof; you need this in your life!

Finally for RC. This one has been the hardest to improve over the last 11 months but I've gone from a -11 average to -3. Today I missed 2. The method I use in RC is similar to the basic translation drill for LR stimuli. For each paragraph pause at the end and summarize what it means before moving on. After each subsequent paragraph, think about how it functions in the context of the passage.

7Sage works. I was stuck in the mid / high 160's back when I started. This is the best community to learn LSAT with and JYs methods are superior. I'm very excited about November after a disappointing September.

Just wanted to share the word about the tutoring services offered by Nicole Hopkins (nicole@ilovelsat.com). I used her for mainly reading comprehension, but the work that we did together also helped me in logical reasoning. I did 5 hours of tutoring with Nicole, and I don't know what magic she used but I went from getting 7-9 wrong per section to 0-2. HUGE progress and honestly, it didn't even feel like I was doing much work. Nicole is a master at explaining things until you understand them-- she is patient, relatable, and incredibly flexible-- which was great for me as someone who is working full time and located on a different coast from her.

Additionally, I am working with her on writing my essays (personal statement, diversity statement, addendum, and supplements) and she has sat with me through each editing session to meticulously break down every sentence and paragraph to ensure that I will get the results that I want. As a professional writer and editor herself, she has definitely shown me the value in getting outside help for writing and LSAT coaching.

I know that she is currently accepting clients, and highly recommend that people who need help reach out. Working with her has been a joy and a great investment.

So I was just looking up reading comp strategies online and I came across this guy that said reading comp was his favorite section because it’s an opportunity for him to learn new things, since the passages are adapted from real articles and I thought that was a really interesting way to view the reading comp section.

The nerd in me loves learning new things and I’m constantly researching and looking up random things to learn about and I think I’m going start approaching the reading comp section in that way because it’ll help me become more engaged with the material (which will help me with the memory method taught here on 7sage).

I’m just really curious if what he said was true: does anybody know if the reading comp passages are actually based on real-life articles and true facts?

So for one of the schools, I basically have their median LSAT score and median GPA but my chances of getting in is 23%????When I click ED, it jumps to 32%. I was considering Ed'ing but with 32%, I feel like i'm going to be wasting my early decision and I might be better off doing it for a different school. Should I just ignore these numbers and base my decision to ED off of the medians for the school?

Hello,

I suffer from PTSD, OCD and some other conditions that I'd rather not list and as such I have 50% extra time accommodations on the LSAT.

It is really annoying that there seems to be no way to adjust the amount of time per section in the testing tool, there isn't even a way to go back in "restarting" regular time.

I have been timing extra 50% separately as I am doing blind review, but then there is no way to tell between "extra time" and "actual blind review". Also as a result, a lot of questions show up missed that I completed within the time that I will have on the LSAT.

I know that this isn't a common issue, however, I feel that people with disabilities already have a very difficult time with the LSAT and it would be great if 7sage could help us out a bit here. I have the Ultimate+ which was very costly and I intended to do all the tests using the online tool on this site, because it's so convenient. Sorry if I sound like I am complaining too much, its not my intent, I know this isn't a common problem and probably something the site makers simply didn't think of.

Any ideas? Workarounds or possibility of 7sage making a change?

how good of a predictor are the PTs??? any other relevant info appreciated!!

Is there any practice test book for 7 sage specifically?

For example I would like to do just the LG sections for a few earlier PTs, but I can't seem to access individual sections on the digital tool without taking the entire test. Nor can I blind review and check the answers just for one section. If this isn't an option now, I would highly recommend you guys make this a feature for future 7Sagers!

I'll be sitting for the November LSAT. Started mid August and going on third and final month.

Looking for any advice on how my last month should be spent. In fact, how should any 7sager's last month be spent? Any wisdom you all can offer would be stellar!

Goal:

-160, something like -20 overall.

LSAT progress:

-Began mid-August. J07 was a gut-punching 143. Turns out not a fluke, next PT days later was 142. End of August 143. BRs were 157.

-Taken during early CC days. Only finishing 60-70% questions and burning out mid-test. Was very reticent to skip. Not really skipping.

-Avg LR -13 LG -16 RC -14. Overall -43.

-Pushed through most of CC excluding RC. 50% through foolproofing LG. Tearing through Manhattan drill book. Not done with that.

Now:

-Early to mid October PTs were 156, 154, 152. BR is holding between 161 and 165.

-Now finishing some LR sections completely with 5-8 skipped Qs with about 3 mins to burn.

-Avg LR -11 LG -13 RC -11. Overall -35.

How should I proceed for each section? I'll assume that I need to wrap up LG foolproofing. Will LR CC repeat yield much? If so, should it be analytics-driven? Is RC CC going to yield anything more than BRing RC sections would?

Sacrifice older PTs below 50 for timed sections?

Thanks in advance, 7sage community. You all have been incredibly helpful.

Feeling discouraged. I will put this in LSAT terms

Premise 1: according to stats (ie powerscore forum, Reddit, law forums etc) most diagnostic score are around 150

Premise 2: according to same sources, most people improve 10pts only

Premise 3: I did not score a 150. I did not do the logic game section (didn't know how to do it and gave up and just guessed on the 4 games).

Premise 4: if I had above average intelligence, I would have scored 150.

Conclusion: I am of below average intelligence and not capable of a high score.

Do schools penalize you for being under the word count? The majority of the schools I'm applying to have the same general prompt so I'm tweaking the same personal statement for each school. Currently, I'm just below 5,000 characters (which is the limit for School A), but School B gives a limit of 6,000. Will it be a bad mark against me for not using the entire character/word allowance?

Hi all,

I've made some pretty respectable progress since the beginning of my LSAT journey. I went from 138 to the low 160s.

My improvements were:

LR -15 to about -6 (My BR is -2 to -3)

Games: -18 to about -2 (I can go -0 depending on mistakes or not, I make really stupid reading mistakes like assuming that its MBT when it says MBF"

RC: I average -13 (weakest section) and can't get any better, although i don't really practice this.

With only 4-5 weeks left, what should I focus on if I'm trying to score 165+? I want to drill RC for 1-2 weeks to see if I can turn that -13 to to a -7, but I'm not sure if that would be the greatest use of my time. I do 10 in 10 pretty well for LR, but questions 13-20 really stump me.

Open to any advice on how to get the most gains in 4 weeks, considering the information above.

Thanks i love you all, and thanks for reading!

PS: Reschedule isn't an option, I've put this darn test off for like 2 years already. I'm really proud of my improvement so far and want to be done with the LSAT by this Nov. 165+ is the goal, I would be happy with 163-164!

Hi everyone.

I have really bad news.

We are taking down all of our free Logic Game videos on YouTube on November 15.

Two months ago, LSAC's legal department requested that we remove the videos on copyright violation grounds. We immediately retained Quinn Emanuel, one of the best law firms in the country, and worked with two amazing lawyers (one of whom used to be a 7Sager) to try to work this out with LSAC. Despite our efforts, they remain firm. Our remaining option was to litigate but we don't have the resources to pursue that path.

On November 15 our LG videos will no longer be available to the public for free. They will still exist, but only to students enrolled in a full 7Sage course. This way, we can track usage and send licensing fees accordingly.

These videos have been free for nearly eight years. In that time period, we created an alternative to the paradigm of expensive, in-class test prep in the form of free and low cost, on-demand lessons. I'm sad to see these free videos—a mainstay of both our business and social mission—go. I've had many students tell me that they couldn't afford a course but fully utilized our LG videos, which made me very happy. I've also had many tutors tell me that they don't tutor LG anymore because there's no need to. It makes me feel good to know that we made an impact for some students.

I wanted to see in quantitative terms how much of an impact the LG videos made.

We ran the numbers and generated the chart below. This is data pulled from our analytics. We did our best to exclude retakes, older data, and other data that might inflate scores. Look at the blue and grey lines for LR and RC. They peak around minus 3 or 4, meaning more 7Sagers got around 3 to 4 wrong per section than any other number. Compared to the full population of LSAT takers, this curve is likely left-skewed simply because they're all 7Sagers, a group of students who take their studies seriously. Still, the distribution is relatively normal; you can make out the curve. Relatively few people get -0/-1 on those sections.

Now look at the orange line for LG. The peak of the curve sits at -0/-1. Take a second to think about this. This means more 7Sage students taking PTs got an LG score of -0 or -1 than any other score. That's not normal.

https://i.imgur.com/wbGCrjb.png

I'm curious about the actual exam data on the yearly LG curve over the past decade. My guess is that the curve moved left, meaning the average student has been significantly improving on LG. The actual LG curve might even look similar to ours, since everyone had access to our LG videos. If true, this could offer an explanation for LSAC's increasing preference for weird, miscellaneous games.

Anyway, back to the fact that we're having to remove all our LG videos from YouTube, which is really the point of this post: I'm sorry. If I don't sound more upset about it, it's only because I've had two months now to absorb the blow.

You probably have questions. I'll try to check back here today and tomorrow to answer the ones I can.

Hi everyone!

This question is for anyone who has already taken the LSAT. I am wondering what is allowed during the 20 minute breaks between sections, specifically, if snacks are allowed. I am hypoglycemic, and if I don't have a small snack every few hours, my blood sugar drops. I get dizzy and my brain performance suffers. If they do allow snacks during the breaks, how does this work? Can you bring your own? Or are there ones for purchase at testing centers? Any input would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

Nicole

Hi all! I decided to delay taking the LSAT until next year thanks to everyone's advice on here.

One question I have is re: the LSAT journal and how people are keeping track of troublesome Qs / question types, Logic Games, etc. Now that everything is digital I am doing the problem sets and PTs on my iPad, but in order to review the questions or particular games I feel like having them printed out and in a binder would be more helpful.

Could you please share your strategy for reviewing old games / questions? Especially given the transition to digital.

Or do you use the "flagging" feature within 7Sage?

What do your LSAT journals look like?

Thank you so much in advance!

I login but it shows blank page under course tab and discussion tab shows a lesson I took a while ago... Maybe I'll delete and reinstall. Everything is fine on desktop.

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Ok I was scoring mid-160s consistently last week. I started with the 80s this week and I've been getting destroyed. ANybody else have this experience?