I've been re-doing PTs 36-86 and my scores are obviously inflated, so I'm not sure how much I'm actually improving or even getting out of it. Would it be better to focus on PTs 0-36? I've done all the LG but I haven't done the LR/RC except for what was covered in CC. Thanks!

Is anyone currently studying for the LSAT(registered for June but pay push to Sept) while attempting looking for a job? I'm currently in this predicament and I'm finding that my consistency is suffering. Any thoughts or advice?

Since my BR score is still way above my actual PT score, and I'm still experiencing panic every time I face LG timed, I'm considering seeking other kinds of help. I've heard good things about EMDR therapy helping with test anxiety. Anyone know anything about this?

Hey guys, I'm very new to 7Sage, but have found the discussion and resources to be a invaluable supplement to my LSAT studies. I apologize if something like this has been asked before, but I couldn't find it in a search, so please forgive me if I'm being redundant.

To be short, I'm graduating college in May and looking to take a gap year before attending law school, meaning my goal is to be part of the next (Fall 2019) admissions cycle. I'm planning on taking the June LSAT, since it's the last disclosed test on the schedule. I began studying at the beginning of March using the LSAT Trainer (I was totally clueless and had read that 12-weeks was a solid amount of time), and had been feeling fairly confident about my progression/habits until I stumbled upon a 7Sage podcast. You guys do some incredibly airtight review and in-depth studying, and I've begun incorporating a lot of these habits into my process (blind review, fool-proofing, etc).

What I've noticed, though, is that the time horizons for 7Sagers are generally longer than what I am looking at (3-months for June LSAT, potentially up to 6-months if I retake in September). I also sort of shocked myself and got a 167 diagnostic. I didn't want to put too much weight into that score in case it was a fluke, but I do seem to be testing at around a 166 - 171 level right now. Given my limited time and the fact that I feel fairly confident with my progression, is it wise for me to go the whole 9 yards and ensure that I'm fool-proofing everything ten times and blind-reviewing for hours on end, or should I only do these things for the question types I've identified as problematic? I don't want to half-ass this process, but I also spent 5 or 6 hours yesterday fool-proofing ten or so questions and worry that perhaps I could have cut that in half and used my energy on another problem area.

I understand this is a unique situation, and I anticipate a lot of the responses to be something along the lines of "extend your time frame," but please treat this like a logic game ... given THESE conditions, what do you guys suggest?

(That being said, I'm certainly not opposed to treating June like a trial and taking again in September, but I'll have more limited time once I start working in mid-June).

Thanks so much!

Can someone please help me with this? I've been on my laptop for hours and for some reason I am not understanding how this works. I've tried the 7sage predictor for the LSAC GPA and it just does not make sense to me I think I might be using it wrong. I have all the courses I have taken and I would appreciate any help on this matter. And if someone is even willing to compute it for me (I'll send you my classes/grades,etc) I will gladly Venmo you $5 for a Starbucks drink/dunkin or any coffee of your choice! I'm just freaking out because I'm scared my GPA will be lower than it already is and I could really use some help with this.

Thanks so much.

Hi all,

I’m a short time lurker who just took the March exam. Clearly from my title it didn’t go well. After studying for a few months, working full time, finishing school full time I took the test and got my worst score ever.

I figured this would happen during the test because I hated my test site and didn’t even finish my sections. I sort of gave up mid way 🤫

With all that being said I’m intending to take the July exam and possibly one more later in the fall. I’m quitting my job to focus on the LSAT full time. I PT at around 160, but I want to get closer to a 168-170 over the next few months. Do you guys think I’ll be a good candidate for the Ultimate or should I start at a lower level with my test being so close. Any assistance is greatly appreciated!!

Hi.

The March LSAT results were in two days ago. I'm so glad to say that I scored a 169!

I know there are plenty of people here with 170+ and yet aiming for a higher score, but I am content with what I've accomplished after a long journey.

I'm an international applicant with a GPA classified as 'Superior.' I'm a traditional and have studied for the LSAT for a whole year.

I went from a 148 diagnostic, to 161 in June 2018, and to a 169 in March.

I was averaging mid-160s before the March test, so my final score took me by a huge surprise.

LR was my biggest weakness, as I started out getting -10 for each section. I improved a lot by drilling by question type and focusing on those types that I had the most difficulty with.

The Blind Review and foolproofing methods worked out wonderfully for me as well. At one point I was wasting my PTs by taking three tests per week, and obviously getting nothing out of each test. Learning the proper BR method was a game changer for me. I started seeing steady improvements in my overall performance.

I just want to say a big thank you to JY and 7Sage for your help.

I'd also like to add that 7Sage works, although the process could be long and wearisome, as it was for me. So don't give up!

Peace out :)

Just wanted to share my excitement. Finally completed the core content, and did my first complete timed practice test since doing a blind analytic back in January. In January 2019 I scored a 143, and just now I scored a 158 :) I know it is just one test, but I could genuinely feel the improvements I have made while writing. I have got a long way to go, but this is a good step. Am aiming for a 170, which might be a bit unrealistic with only 6 weeks left before I write the June LSAT. Going to stay positive and keep working hard.

What to say when you've been studying for a long time but you're not ready? Thanks in advance for your advice on this. I know it's not a totally new thread. It's something I need to revisit though. Trying to find the right thing to say.

As title suggests, I'm very afraid that I won't do well enough on my first write and would have no PTs left to use at that point. I was about to purchase the Ultimate+ course but was scared that I would use up all resources and still score below what I want. As you can tell, I'm fairly new into studying. But I do want to ask, what do you do if this ends up being the shoes you're in? So far I haven't purchased any course for this reason. Looking to write Sept19 test soonest.

Hey Guys, so this is my dilemma:

@admin-3 is there anyway that the downloaded pdf (drills) could be iPad pencil enabled? Printing the drills is getting too much and I’m also traveling. Just wondering. Thanks!

Anybody have thoughts or opinions on taking a 1L Summer Prep Course before matriculation? Just curious if it is worth the time and money, or if it's best to enjoy the last law-free Summer. Thanks!

Just wondering how people on here feel about retaking the LSAT multiple times. I know LSAC recently dropped the 3 limit rule. But does taking it more than 3 times have a drastic negative effect?

Rather than regale you with a narrative about personal triumph through adversity i thought it would be more worthy of your time to explain how i increased my lsat score by 13 points.

Started with a 157 3 years ago, re wrote the lsat last November and got a 161. Discovered 7 sage shortly after and subsequently got a 166 and a 170 on the following lsats.

How did i get here?

I viewed jy's videos religiously. Not just for lg but for LR and occasionally RC. I tried to understand Jy's thought process , how he approached questions and how eliminated wrong answer choices. I did all the pts past pt50 as well. If you are not an ultimate member, think about upgrading. It is a worthy investment

I kept a log of all the lr questions I got wrong and audited my thought process after every PT. (Shout out to @hawaiihi for this idea) The value of a thorough BR is priceless. Do not just concentrate on why answer choices are right, look at the wrong answer choices and figure out why they are wrong. I also reviewed every question , even those i got right. Just in case i hit on a false positive where i got the right answer through improper methods. Process not results matter

I started to BR with others.

The best way to iron out your reasoning is to say it out loud to others, and no one is more discerning of reasoning than other sagers. I started a br group and we br'd pts on a weekly basis. This really helped fill in the gaps in my thinking process, br'ing with others shone a light on my heuristical blind-spots and gave me the edge i needed to transition from the 160's to the 170's. If you are aiming for a 97th percentile score I highly suggest you br with others.

I started a group chat and vowed to answer every question that came my way. I figured if I could not teach a concept , I did not know it well enough. This let me randomly review concepts as at any given moment questions would appear, the lsat was always on my mind. More importantly the group chat kept me sane as i knew there were other people out there going through the same struggles. I love my group chat, they are lovely people and seeing their success after the March results came in made me happier than any individual achievement ever could.

I hate to plug a competing product but the lsat trainer is magical, if you do not have it buy it right now.

The group chat is still going as there are still folks on there who are writing in june and july you can join us here.

https://chat.whatsapp.com/HEr9S37YrIFBZNN6w4pFpZ

I also still join the june BR sessions (https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/19448/june-2019-br-study-group-updated)

I've also committed to hosting a br of pt 41 on sunday (the post is on the first page of the webforum)

I'm going to stick around for awhile to pay it forward. This site has been life changing

So I got my score today from the March 30th administration. Long story short I'm not satisfied with my results and I'm preparing to take the July 15th test. I'm to the point in my prep where its practice, practice, practice with proper blind review. My blind review scores are on point with my target score but my actual is still behind. Before I make a mistake and continue practicing the way I have been, with timed sections/blind review, preptest/blind review, is there any advice or suggestions I should consider? Is there something more I could be doing? I just want to make sure I'm making the most of my study time before the next administration. Thanks!

I just got my March score and received a 169. I'm definitely happy with my score - I've studied for this dang thing for over a year but I'm considering maybe... possibly... retaking.

This is my situation. I have a 4.0 GPA - graduated about a year and a half ago. I'm interested in T14 schools - particularly lower T14 schools with a scholarship. I also had some other tier one schools in mind - like Boston University and UT Austin.

The thing with a 169 is that just a point or two more would put me at or above median at a lot of the T14. The night before the exam, I had a massive panic attack and did not sleep. Literally went into the exam on 0 hours of sleep, convinced I was gonna bomb it. I had been receiving PT scores in the lower170s in the months leading up to the test, so I think maybe I underperformed or lack of sleep contributed to the drop. Or the drop was just a natural test day drop, who knows.

But, I also just don't want to keep studying for this test. I know that sounds lazy and lame, but I've studied for 16 months, 3-4 hours a day, 5 days a week, with virtually no breaks. I'm emotionally drained. But I could muster up the energy if retaking was worthwhile - I don't know definitively that I'll do better and I don't want to go through the process if I'm gonna end up with the same or a lower score. But I also don't want to pass up the chance to retake and live with myself knowing that I might've gotten a scholarship or gotten accepted to a better school had I just put in a couple more months of preparation.

Thoughts?

I’m not so sure if I’m doing the right thing. I study full time.

Day 1: Full timed PT + RC and LG drills

Day 2: BR every question + Videos for RC and LG after each passage and game.

Day 3: Review missed questions from both PT and BR.

LR: After 3rd try, I compare the answers with PT and BR after doing one question.

If I made changes, I write down why I made the change, initial reasoning for choosing and eliminating that AC.

Then I watch JY’s video and write down the difference between his approach and mine.

With different color pen I write out where it went wrong, and what I should work on.

Review CC and books, search discussion board for ways to solve that problem. + do 20Q on that question type,

which is NA most of the cases.

I repeat it twice a week, and BR every question part is a bit time consuming. What can I change/do more in the BR process to make it more effective? How should I review 3rd try, if I got it three times wrong?

I've noticed sooo many questions about high blood pressure, being overweight, etc. Find new topics test writers! Lol

Hey Everyone!

Two questions:

1.) Is there a way to erase all of my notes without going in to each one and deleting them? I am wanting to start from scratch.

2.) Have you ever just restarted the core curriculum from scratch? I am 24% into it, the furthest I have gotten to date. I've also restarted it 2 times. I am terrified of going to the practice exams without FULLY completely understanding the core curriculum. I've also been back and forth on whether to take the LSAT, but I keep coming back to it because I think I ultimately want to do it but just get scared.

All advice is welcome and appreciated.

Thanks!

Lindsey

I just noticed that Berkeley claims to have had 6,039 Fall 2018 applicants, and they claim to have accepted 314 of them. This seems like it would result in a roughly 5% acceptance rate, rather than the 20% listed on the predictor page. Can anyone explain this apparent disparity? Does this mean they actually accepted around 1,200 applicants and 900 didn't accept their offers of admission?

I was averaging 3 points higher than what I actually scored, but I felt really uncomfortable with the March 2019 LG and I think that's what messed me up. Does anyone have any advice for retaking a third time/how to approach studying this time around? I'm signed up for the June test because I know I'm right where I want to be, I just didn't execute on test day.

Hey guys so I just took a Diagnostic (PT30) at a proctoring site and it was under real timed conditions and scored a 145 after taking 2 years off from the lsat. So brief history I took a FALL (Sep- Dec) blueprint course in NYC but at that time it was not suited for me. it was just too comical and very fast paced for me! But I decided to sit in on the Feb Lsat and I jokingly took it because I was naive and just wanted to get it over and done with and scored a 154 but again I didn't really study outside of the course. I would never blame Blueprint though for my low score- that was 10000% on my laziness.

Fast Forward to now, I plan on sitting in on either October 28th-December ( one of those dates). I have just began the CC at 7sage and feel great about the community and just overall understanding the fundamentals of it all seem so simple.Im actually looking forward to studying. Currently Im studying anywhere from 20-25 hours a week, taking weekly/ to bi-weekly PT's at the free proctoring sites and then doing the Blind Review, and just reviewing on my phone concepts from the 7sage app or Quizlet.

My top choices are {Boston U, Fordham, BC, Cornell- reaching, Georgetown} so I am aiming for 167-170s. I have a 3.6 GPA at UG, and 3.9 in Grad School (MA Program).

I know 20+ point jumps are like unheard of and mostly everyone says its impossible but given I have over 6 months of studying and when I say I'm treating it like my job- I AM! Strength is LG and RC with the blind review I average at -3/4 and weakness is LR & !

Is this realistic timing for my goal score? Any recommendation/ study tips.

I am using 7sage then reviewing the Trainer but since I started with 7sage, I want to learn the basics and use the trainer for any further clearing in LR. I have the Bibles as well although, LR really confused me which is what prompted me to 7sage. I am saving later PT's for after the CC course and doing drills with PT 20-40s. Also been using khan Academy articles and videos for RC. Do you think its possible timing wise? Anything else I should be doing.

I have the whole summer to study for this and I am determined. Aiming to write the Sept test. I'm only working a part time job with minimal hours throughout the summer. I need to get a score of at least 167. Which course should I pick? If I don't feel ready by Sept or if my score isn't high enough, I'll definitely take a later test. Please advice!

Do we have to keep the watch on our wrists or are we allowed to put it on a desk in front of us during the test??