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For those of you who just took the December LSAT and are planning on applying this cycle for matriculation next Fall, is it possible to submit applications before we receive our scores?

I'm just wondering because a few of my schools have a financial aid priority deadline of January 1st, but it looks like we aren't going to have our scores before then. I'd really prefer to see my score before I decide to apply, but not at the risk of getting a good enough score but receiving zero financial aid.

Any suggestions from LSAT veterans?

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Wouldn't it be wonderful to know the score you received and THEN decide if you want to cancel or not?

I turn to my fellow 7sagers for any sage wisdom...

Background: I took the LSAT on Saturday in London. The testing conditions were fine & the building was actually pretty swank. For the last two weeks, however, I have been very sick. I have either bronchitis or the beginning of pneumonia & was prescribed medication for pneumonia (and an inhaler for breathing during my coughing bouts!). I was a bit paranoid about disturbing other people during the test itself so I held all my coughs and tissue-blowing until the breaks. After the test, someone even said "so you were the person who was dying behind me" haha.

Despite being sick, I had adrenaline on my side & was devoting all my energy to concentration. Section 1 kicked my ass. It was LR, and I am comfortable with LR normally... but I found myself jumping around on questions and in a time panic mode. I kept reading and re-reading.

Sections 2, 3, and 4 were all fine -- I flew through them. After the first section, I was resolved to do better & was hoping that I would have 3 LRs and the first was an experimental. By Section 5, I realized I didn't have an LR experimental and that brought me down a little bit.. but I still pushed forward and this section was fine as well.

So the question is... how much could my illness & my Section 1 performance have affected my score? I think objectively, Section 1 was definitely the hardest section of the test. But I am finding it very difficult to assess how many I might have had wrong for this section. And even though I thought all of the other sections were OK, I could be misconstruing these!

The problem with re-taking is that it would possibly be a long time before I could take the LSAT again.

I also worry about the schools that average scores, rather than taking the highest score.

Thoughts?

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Hi to all my fellow retakers and forgive my grammar; Been grindin my whole life.

I was retaking because in sept i scored 7 points below my PT average, and yes i did strictly time my pts. I choked the games pretty hard though. I retook feel like i did better on the games, on the rest of the test? meh. I did take a couple cold(i wasnt studying nearly as much as i did the first time) PTs in the meantime and scored my average or a little above. i may not have scored higher on the retake, but i can live with it. Life's hard.

Howd you guys' retaking process go and how do you feel you did?

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Does 7Sage offer the older PTs with explanations? I assume they don't, but can someone please confirm?

Is anyone even going through the older PTs? If so, how are you getting through questions that you are stumped on? Is there a site or book that is similar to 7Sage that goes over the older PTs? I'm trying to figure out if it's worth my time to review them.

I should be done with all of the lessons by mid-January and should be PTing twice a week. Ideally, I'd like to do three tests one week, two the next, three the following, etc... 3-2-3-2. I think that might be too much, but if others have tried this, please let me know if it has worked for you. I want to incorporate older PTs with the newer ones.

I plan to take the exam in June and possibly in September (hopefully not :) ). I know it's going to be a tight schedule but I'm 100% ready.

Thanks!

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Hello,

I will (hopefully) write June's LSAT. From the schedule in 7sage and help from other folks in 7sage, I will be doing recent PTs (35+) timed and BR towards the end of my prep. My question is, now, and during reading prep material, what can I prepare with? I learned I should do that with the earlier PTs (35-), but how?

In other words, I will be studying weaken questions, strengthen question, assumptions, cause and effect etc, but how would I practice my understanding?

Many thanks

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Hello, everyone! I'm a bit confused. In preparation for the Dec. LSAT I took PTs 68/69/70 and score a raw number of 68, all of which were calculated as a score of 156.

Here: http://www.powerscore.com/lsat/help/correct_targeted.cfm

My preptest 70 (October 2013) I got a 156 with 68 as my raw score, but on that website it says a raw score of 64 is a 155, so is 4 more correct answer really only 1 more point?

Preptest 69 (June 2013) I got a 156 with 68 as my raw score, but on that website a 155 is 63 right.. So getting 5 answers correct only gives me one more point?

Preptest 68 (December 2012) I got a 156 with 68 as my raw score, but on that website a 155 is a raw score of 65, so getting 3 more questions right only gives me one more point?

Maybe I just don't understand the scoring scale... If anyone can resolve, reconcile, and explain it would be awesome!

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I am looking to take the test again in Feb. Unfortunately the test center I took it in Dec is not offered as an option for Feb. Wanted to check if there are websites where reliable reviews can be found on the test centers. I have looked at yelp, tls, lsatcenters.wikia. Thanks

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Hi guys,

I'm planning on filing a complaint against the LSAC and wanted to hear some feedback whether it's a good idea or a bad one. So, I had very incompetent proctor - made several mistakes throughout the day (e.g. forgot to tell us to sign the test, didn't read the instructions thoroughly...just bad, period). But, what stood out the most was that 10 minutes into Section 1, the assistants came to us and started asking us if we could flip the page over to the first page so they can write the test Serial Number. Imagine the level of distraction? What made things even worse for me was that my first section was Logic Games. I had literally, read the rules of the second game and was making inferences based on my set up when this happened and I FREAKIN FORGOT MY INFERENCES. So, I had to go back, re-read, try to remember the inferences and easily lost 3-3:30 minutes. On top of that, the level of noise created so much distraction. HERE'S MY QUESTION: ARE THE PROCTORS WITHIN THEIR POWER TO DISTRACT YOU FROM YOUR TEST IF IT'S SOMETHING NOT PERSONALLY RELATED TO YOU? As in, he F**** up by not writing the test serial numbers when distributing, and I have to suffer.

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After doing quite a bit of preparatory work and taking about 7 PT's (thus far), I was curious if you guys would think it an improper method of study to ONLY do pts from this point forward with intense blind review and then further review. Is there a point where its time to only take pts? Im a little under 2 months out and am feeling that I might gain more understanding by dealing only with the tests. Ive purchased every available pt, so running out of fresh material from now until test day given the time line isn't an issue.

I guess what the real question is, while I am admittadly a little hazy in some areas, do you think intense study of the PTs would achieve a more applicable understanding rather than taking the time away from that to re-watch/read preparatory curriculum I have already reviewed (as I have reviewed them all at least once)

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After finishing today's test, I am determined to retake it in Feb. I feel I know which questions are hard for me and where the trap is, however, I seldom have time to reread the stimuli/re-check all the choices. I have been in the States for over 4 years, grad school+ work, but I have to admit that my reading speed and accuracy is well below the high LSAT scores...any suggestion how to increase reading speed and accuracy ( I sometimes miss some info in the stimuli and thus get it wrong. Realize how stupid I am when BR them) ??? I am an avid novel reader, maybe if should switch to Economist, forbes recently?

also, any suggestion for study schedule and strategy? I started with a diagnose of 148, after full time for two months, improved to 153 ( PT 63-75); in the recent two weeks, finally increased to 156 ( PT 69-72). My BR is usually 165 ish. so I guess I should be able to get 165 ish ( or at least lower 160s) after two more months' study?

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They started the test 30 minutes late while we were all sitting in there locked up! I started with high anxiety (anxious from the beginning and it built up of course during the 30 mins delay). I walked out half an hour ago knowing I bombed it!

What is to be done now?

Cancel the score?

Re-take in February for 2015 cycle?

Re-take in June for the next cycle?

I can't believe this just happened to me after 6 months of preparation.

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I don't feel that I did poorly, nor do I feel that I killed the test. I do feel that I did well enough to get into my target school.

I spell relief L-S-A-T-D-O-N-E. (Alka-Seltzer anyone . . . anyone?)

Regardless of how well I did, I want to thank the 7Sage crew for all that they provide. I know I would have scored lower if I hadn't discovered this site.

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Greetings Everyone!

I'm Alexandra and I live in NYC. I've decided to start studying in January 2015 for the June 2015 LSAT. I'd love study buddies to help with this tedious exam. I have not prepared effectively in the past, so I want to be ultra prepared for the June exam. Any and all help is SO appreciated. Thank you! If need be, my email is alexandra.k.griffiths@gmail.com :)

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I've been studying for the LSAT for a while now, currently just started my PT phase and I'm still not near my target score (aiming for Feb test right now). I've also been getting into heavy lifting within the last three months and I recently made the connection of how lifting is very much like studying for the LSAT.

I don't know how many of you are familiar with lifting, and I can't really call myself an expert-- like I said, I've only just started but maybe it's because I'm a newb that it's really easy for me to draw these parallels between the two. First, lifting heavy really requires you to have proper form just like having a good core foundation of lessons for the LSAT. You must have good form before you move onto heavier weights-- by jumping ahead and trying to lift a ton without the training of proper form, you're putting yourself at risk for injury. In a similar way, I've realized that I can't just burn through my PTs when I notice that my foundation isn't solid. I can easily tell through my BRs and my attitude during the test-- sometimes during a PT, I'll see a question and freak/stress out because I know I should be more familiar with it and yet I know I'm not. When moments like these happen, I know it's time to revisit those core lessons again just like when I realize my form is off with lifting, it's time to lower those weights and reassess what I'm doing wrong with my form to see how I can fix it.

Something else that I've realized is that, progress is slowwwww with both lifting and the LSAT. And it can get frustrating, but you just have to believe in yourself, trust the process and that the numbers will come. Personally, I know I have to listen to my own advice about the LSAT more because I've been slightly discouraged lately. On the other hand, I've been really seeing some great progress with my lifting! Something that I've noticed that really helps with all of this is to track the progress-- no matter how little it is, whether it's an extra rep or an extra 5 pounds-- progress is progress! Now I'm able to squat, bench and deadlift and I've made significant progress for all of them! It also doesn't hurt that I'm starting to see those changes in my body too ;) I think I need to start feeling the same way about my LSAT prep and maybe start tracking not just my PTs but every kind of practice I'm doing every day.

And last but not least, I've learned that I just need to jump right into it- no matter how scared I am. As a girl, I've always been curious about lifting heavy/power lifting but was slightly intimidated by the guys in that section of the gym. Once my guy friend decided to switch to my gym, I had him bring me to that section and then teach me all the basics. Even though now I still get slightly nervous walking into that section of the gym at the beginning of each workout, I know why I'm there and I just jump right in. And once I do that, I feel much better. Similarly, for the LSAT I've had this huge mental block about studying and taking the exam because it always seemed like this huge nerve-wracking thing that was going to determine my future (almost a 170 or bust kind of deal) and I've realized that by freaking out and being scared will never get me anywhere. I need to jump right in and face it head on by doing the lessons, practice the things I'm learning from 7Sage and then take those PTs to improve.

Sorry for the super long post, but these are just some things I've noticed through my journeys with weight lifting and the LSAT. I still have a long way to go for both, but I won't stop-- this is just the beginning! And if anyone takes away anything from this post, then.. yay :) I'm glad it helped in someway or another.

Best of luck to those taking the exam tomorrow and shout out to those that are still studying for the exam! We're in this together!

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Hi All -

I've always been paranoid about making any marks on the LSAT scan sheet but since they essentially give us a photo of the sheet and we have hand score options, I think it may be ok.

I want to do the following things, please let me know if you think it's fine:

1) Circle question numbers on the bubble sheet for questions I'm unsure of are are skipping (I do it in the text book, but this may be useful in some cases).

2) Maybe vertically bracket groups of bubbles ie by passage so it's easier to see if I bubbled correctly

3) Not bubble in crazy heavy - just enough in order to save time (since we have hand scoring and a photo of actual score sheet to check).

Thoughts?

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So I was about to buy a course, but I have a question.

I've noticed for the lessons, some have different amounts of lessons per. I had thought the differences were only due to how many LSAT tests were explained. For example:

Main Point & Main Conclusion Questions 17 lessons, 1.6h (Starter)

Main Point & Main Conclusion Questions 19 lessons, 2.1h (Premium)

Main Point & Main Conclusion Questions 21 lessons, 2.3h (Ultimate)

I know that upgrading from one course to another gives more lessons but my questions are:

1) Will using a starter with 17 lessons versus an ultimate for 21 lessons on "Main Point & Main Conclusion Questions" be a huge difference? What are in the remaining 4 lessons?

2) If I start using the Starter and decide to upgrade to Premium later, will my 7sage program show that I have 2 extra lessons that I didn't use?

3) Are the lessons that are skipped in Starter something that might cause the following lesson to make less sense?

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