Found this interesting blog post about a logical fallacy in the witch scene of Monty Python and the Holy Grail. It focuses on an inductive argument form and a deductive form (more appropriate for LSAT). The deductive form shows a good example of the difference between truth and validity which is one of the 7sage lessons. Figured I'd share its a pretty fun way to learn the way LAWGIC works.

The scene can be found here:

Note: skip to 0:40 to the beginning of the argument

The break down and explanation can be found here:

http://www.mooneytheology.com/2012/09/logical-fallacies-in-monty-python-and.html

I’ve been studying the LSAT for over 8 months now and am taking an all or nothing approach to September. I had high hopes of getting a low 170 score so I could get into top law schools, but this score is looking more and more like a dream rather than a possibility. The highest score I’ve gotten is a 168, and I’m generally in the 165-167 range, sometimes a point or two lower. Here is my issue: I’ve drilled all the types of questions from 1-38 (LR, RC, LG), and have taken a majority of the prep tests. I have about 15 clean tests left leading up until test day. On the tests, I am almost always getting the same distribution of wrong answers. I review all my tests thoroughly through 7sage, Manhattan forums, and other ways, but I don’t know how the heck I’m supposed to improve here. My distribution is, generally, LR: 5-8 (total), LG (1-3), RC (4-6). For LR, there doesn’t seem to be any obvious disconnect; I’m not getting the same types consistently wrong. It always just seems like I miss a couple of the 5 star difficulty questions each round. There’s no doubt I’m learning some of the intricacies of wrong answers and some of the trap choices, and some of the trends with question types, but I always, when taking the test, get dumbfounded by a couple of questions. I have no idea what to do because it happens every time. LG, I have a good grasp, but for some reason I just screw a question or two up anyway. RC, I don’t even know, there’s just always a couple of questions that throw me off. I’ve tried like every method of RC, but some of those killer questions just throw me for a loop each time, or I’ll run out of time at the end and screw up. Anyone have advice moving forward? At this point with a 3.9+ gpa, I would probably be satisfied with a upper 160 score, but I’m a little nervous of even that so I have to do something here.

Hey, SO I am able to access the lessons when I'm on the laptop, but unable to do so when I'm on the 7sage app.

Is there a bug in the system??

I'm just curious as to what kind of difference folks are generally seeing between their actual performance under timed conditions and their blind review, specifically for RC and LR. (I'm just starting on my LG journey, so it hasn't had as much value there because I'm still learning the basics.)

It's amazing to me how much clearer the distinction becomes between the wrong answer and the right answer on some of the LR questions when I'm not under time pressure. Yet, when push came to shove, I didn't get them right. I'm hoping that/wondering how much drilling will make a difference.

What are you experiencing during your blind review? Do you generally get everything right on the second chance? If so, are most of them coming easily or taking quite a while? What about RC? What progress have you seen towards these areas? Are you getting close to your blind review score?

Thanks for sharing!

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Hi,

I'm wondering what other people have done.

I just got the 300 dollar package and have been plugging along through the lessons. They are AMAZING thus far and I already feel 150% better about prepping for this exam.

So, in terms of looking at grammar, has anyone done extra than just what the lessons give you? I guess I'm wondering, in addition to the problems given, does anyone branch off and do more?

Today I came across this article regarding school rankings in general. I have always been one (maybe because I live Canada) to say that people are WAY to obsessed over school rankings. I have friends that have move up to 4 hours away just to get a business undergrad at school that ranks higher than our local University. I would always say that it is ultimately their choice, but it is not something I would consider doing. Most of the time I would always get the argument back that "it is for the experience". Sorry, but I am not interested in an experience that carries thousands of dollars of extra debt and only makes my life more stressful.

Anyways on to the point, the article states that rankings do not matter as much for basically any type of education OTHER THAN LAW! Essentially, going to a top school is a critical to at least ensuring a successful career post-grad. Give it a read. I'd love to hear what others think.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/bentaylor/2014/08/14/why-law-school-rankings-matter-more-than-any-other-education-rankings/

My parents paid for me to take a testmaster's course on my campus, and I was already going through the 7sage curriculum beforehand. Now, I'm going to the classes and unfortunately am JUST getting started on their homework (sept 27 lsat), but I'm realizing in the class that in my oinion ,the way they teach me logic games is terrible. Even the instructor I have didn't do the games the way he teaches it through testmasters. Would it be a bad or a less beneficial idea to continue using testmasters for logical reasoning and reading comp and use 7sage for logic games? Or should I just brute force it all out with testmasters now?

I apologize for talking about another program here, by the way.

If I'd do the LG with 7sage, i'd probably ask my instructor if it's okay for me to be excused from class every time we get to the LG section of class ( that way I don't waste my time or mess up my studying process).

Additionally, if I used 7sage for logic games, would you recommend finishing the logic games curriculum and then getting the logic games bundle and doing as many of those as I can, over and over?

Thanks everyone. I'm feeling screwed right now.

Hi, My name is Jo and I'm from Southern California. Lots of people had questions about a Sunday Skype session so I hope this post will clarify things.

I would like to go over PT #32 with an emphasis on the LR sections of the test. #32 has a good mix of LR questions. If everyone picks 2 or 3 questions that they had a hard time on, (assuming overlap) there should be around 10-15 questions to discuss.

There is room left for 3, maybe 4 more people and I would like to keep the score range in the 155-160+ range.

If you are interested, you can either email me: jwongemologist@gmail.com or you can message me on forum. Please include Score Range, where you are from, any prep test material you've done, and when you expect to take the LSAT.

Thanks for reading; if you have any additional questions, feel free to either post here or message me.

-Jo

I'm gearing up for the September 2014 test. Wondering if anyone in Orange County would like to meet up to study on weekdays after 6PM or on weekends.

Okay. So, this may sound stupid, but I THOUGHT that I was only able to take the September LSAT, so I've been studying since June & have stressed about it constantly. I must have misheard or misunderstood something, but it turns out that I can take the DECEMBER LSAT and still am able to apply for Law School that following September. Which is great - it gives me an extra 3.5 months to study.

I'm considering taking the beginner package on this website. Right now I score between 152-155 on the practice tests I've taken, and I am registered for a 30 hour LSAT course in late September, but I want to do something more. I'm thinking that studying on my own can only get me so far.

So I'm wondering - do you guys recommend taking the prep through 7Sage? From everything I've seen, I would say it would be worth it, but I'm having qualms about it. Specifically, I think I study best with paper, pencil, and a book, but I've already been through two prep books, and my mark isn't budging much. Do you guys find using the website to be effective? Has it improved your mark?

Thanks a lot!

Hey everyone,

I am scheduled to write the LSAT on September 27th. So far I have saved PT's 62-72 till the testing date drew closer. However, my question is at what point should we dig into these tests? Right now I have to use the test during the 2nd/3rd week of September. Leaving the week of the actual LSAT to a few older (maybe previously taken or partially used) PT's. This way I can get a good understanding from the newer ones. Is this the right way of going about it? I did not want to use some of the newer ones during the actual week of the real LSAT, as my thoughts are I won't be able to gain as much from them since they are so close to the actual date?

I am curious to know what others are doing/what they intend to do with the most recent PT's.

None of the videos in the Advanced Logic section work. Is anyone else having this problem?

What does everyone think is the best method to study for the LSAT? Specifically, I am wondering if I should approach it by studying one area at a time or all areas together. What I mean by this is whether to study only logic games for a few weeks until I feel comfortable with them, then moving on to the other areas of the exam one by one. Or, would it be better to just study a little bit of every area at the same time? I hope my question makes sense.

If 7 sage came out with a T shirt , i'd buy it. Just sayn.

I've been following the chronological order of PTs set out in the 7Sage syllabus in preparation for the September exam. So far, I've written PTs 36-46 with an average score of 174. However, I've seen a number of comments on the forum suggesting that the newer PTs (60+) are significantly harder than the older ones, particularly when it comes to LR. With this in mind, I'm considering alternating between newer and older PTs to ensure that my scores aren't being distorted by easier tests.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Will using up newer PTs now hurt me as test day approaches?

Thanks in advance!

Hi all!

Forgive me if this has been mentioned in the past but does anyone know of a one place you can visit to see info about deadlines and class profiles for US and Canadian schools? I'm about to go make giant excel document but figured I'd ask if anyone knows if this information has already been collected somewhere out there on the good old web!

Thanks! Happy studying!

:)

Once I saw JY says if you are preparing LSAT, then you are single, or you will be soon.

And I just laughed at the joke..and it did happen..

I am OK for most time of the day but would be really upset for like 1-2 hours per day...

Just wondering how many of you have a similar experience? How do you guys pull through that?

Any comment will be helpful. Thanks!

Hi admin, et al...

I have noticed a 5 point difference between my scores from older test vs. more recent (30s vs 60s), with the lower scores being the most recent. Are the newer tests simply more challenging than those from ten years ago? Should I really only be basing my potential score estimates on newer tests? Should I save those recent tests for last? Anyone else notice this same effect?

I just want to make sure that my increase in score is not an artifact of the test difficulty itself.

Thanks!

Hi guys,

Just wanted to see if anybody else had problems with PT 60? I scored a few points lower than usual with this one compared to other PTs...had extra trouble with LR for some reason. Is this a trend I'll see for the rest of the 60's tests? Any insight would be appreciated! Thanks

Can someone please explain briefly the differences of these three LR question types and how we should approach each type? Just a brief, helpful, cheatsheet type of explanation would be great. Thanks!!

JY/Jonathan, would you guys mind creating an explanation video for every one of the questions in the problem sets? The questions I end up getting right have explanations whilst the ones that I end up getting wrong...don't. Thanks.

What do you guys think?

Hi all. I took three practices tests in an LSAT prep book but the tests were not identified. I tried reaching out to the publisher but I haven't heard back. Any thoughts on how I can identify these exams? I want to enter the scores into the analyzer.

Haha. I had a nightmare that I only completed the LR sections on test day and completely forgot to do the LG and RC sections. Oiy! -___-