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Hi everyone,

I was wondering if anyone knew of some legal studies or law related masters programs/certificate programs off the top of their heads? Since I'm writing the LSAT in June now and won't be able have my score added to my applications for this year, I'm looking for something to do during the year instead of just waiting around for my acceptances to come. I've got a really great resume with some awesome extracurriculars and work experience already. I would highly prefer for the program to be in a distance studies format (online)! Any suggestions would be more than appreciated.

So far all I've come up with is this: http://www.extension.harvard.edu/degrees-programs/master-liberal-arts/fields-concentration/legal-studies

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Last comment saturday, feb 07 2015

Length of test

On my ticket it says the test can take up to 7 hours. Can it take more than the standard 3 hours? I can't imagine a timed test could go over...

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Last comment saturday, feb 07 2015

Thoughts/Perspective

Hi!! I write often, but I noticed something this morning.

I took the December 2014 LSAT and received a disappointing 155. I studied for about 4-5 months prior to, first with the Kaplan books (WHAT A MISTAKE), and I only really picked up on 7Sage when it was closer to 3 months before the exam. I work full time, but I crammed my mornings/lunch breaks/after work with LSAT prep and got through the course as quickly as I could. I then took a bunch of prep tests and went into my exam unsure how I would do.

Anyways, I'm going through the entire Ultimate course this time. I'm on the Flaw section and I am writing out on most of the questions my reasoning for getting the answers right/ why the wrong answers are wrong. Sometimes I look at earlier comments and notice that I commented previously. But.... when I look at what I wrote before, it's like "I got this answer right... but because I eliminated this...but I was really stuck between two answer choices". This time, however, I am able to KNOW what the answer should look like before going into the answer choices. Not only that, but I am not wavering between two choices. I know why it's right. I know why the others are wrong.

I wanted to write this because my 155 really upset me. I won't get into my law schools that I applied for with that mark, but this is a marathon. Some people can do it in 3 months and walk out with a great score. Some people can't. So, IN a big long explanation, if you're losing hope and thinking that diagnostic score just won't budge.... don't give up. Be persistent. Understanding something takes time, and takes it sinking into your core. Just embrace it, try and learn as much as you can, and PERSIST! :) You can do it. We allllll can do it!

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Well it is almost time for February takers to step up and jump into the actual test. This is the last week so be sure to remember that while prepping, this isn't the time to make up for slacking last week or to "finish strong" with 3 PT's and intensive drilling. Get you normal prep in, take one or 2(I wouldn't do 1 after Wed imo) more PT's (I personally would throw in a retake) and take a day off. As much as one would feel this is not the time to take a day off... it is. You don't wanna go hard up until D-day and then not have that zing to kill it on Saturday. Pick between Thursday and Friday, take one completely off, and the other some light work (maybe section of each w/ review) Think of sports, you don't see athletes train as hard as they can up until game day, they Taper into it

Good Luck everyone!

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Last comment friday, feb 06 2015

Canceling a score

If you cancel your score after taking the test, does this count as one of the three times you're allowed to take the LSAT within 5 years? Thanks in advance for letting me know :)

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Last comment friday, feb 06 2015

more options on lg

I'm scared to spend so much time on the deductions of the sketch or to make additional options. It makes sense to me but I feel like I would take too much time. How do you know when it's ok to make a few sketches?

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Hey everyone! I've been reviewing valid and invalid argument forms this afternoon, and I'm having a bit of trouble so any help would be greatly appreciated! I'm trying to relate valid and invalid argument forms in terms of qualifiers and inferences that can be made from them - it's giving me a better and helpful perspective when evaluating arguments. From the LSAT Trainer I know that using the qualifier some + some = no inferences; some + most = no inferences; and most + most = inferences. First, is this a correct way to relate valid v invalid argument forms? It seems to me that it works to differentiate the two, but I'd like someone else's thoughts on that before I begin to rely on it.

For example: this is a valid argument because we can infer from "most" + "most" (Valid Argument Form 9)

A most B

A most C

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B some C

However this is not a valid argument form (Invalid Argument Form 7): because we cannot make inferences from "some" + "some"

A some B

A some C

_________

B some C

Second, going off of this information, I'm a bit confused on 7sage's Invalid Argument Form 6 which is:

A most B most C

_______________

A some C

7sage gives the example of: Most cats are mammals. Most mammals are not cats. Some cats are not cats. - And clearly that "english" example makes no sense. But I am a bit confused on how that translates into "lawgic". I know from the Miscellaneous group of logical indicators that is/are "are predicates that point to their subjects and say those are necessary". So am I correct to "translate" this invalid english argument to be:

Mammals most Cats

Not Cats most Mammals

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Not Cats some Cats

Using the logical indicators this makes sense to me, but I'm struggling to see how this example mirrors Invalid Argument Form 6 that I referenced above so I feel I am translating incorrectly and would appreciate someones correction. This english statement was also given with it: Most A’s are B’s. Most B’s are C’s. Therefore, some A’s are C’s - but using actual examples is most helpful to me - but, like I said, I'm struggling to relate the given english example with the lawgic and I'm not sure what I am doing wrong when translating the statement given that it does not match the Invalid Argument Form 6 lawgic.

Hope this all makes sense, and thank you for any help/response!

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Last comment friday, feb 06 2015

PT 74?

did anyone else find pt 74 harder than pt 73? i just finished taking it, and i feel like such a loser. My score from 73 to 74 was a MAJOR decline. the test is tomorrow and i felt so confident, but now i just feel useless. any advice? thanks!

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Last comment friday, feb 06 2015

embedded conditionals

Ok question on this. Lets say we have "if A then no B unless C". According to JY we can diagram as follows:

A-->(B-->C)

we pull the first term in the parentheses out and make the arrow an and to yield:

resulting statement 1: A and B --> C

or we could have diagrammed the original statement as

A--> (~C-->~B)

pulling the first term out and adding an and yields:

resulting statement 2: A and ~C --> ~B

I was expecting resulting statements 1 and 2 to be logically equivalent but they are not. Can anyone clarify why this is not the case? I would imagine this affects one's chances of correctly answering a question with an embedded conditional.

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Hey guys thought we could start a list of different/unique ways we've seen this common flaw described in the answer choices. These flaws are so easy to spot sometimes the challenge is wading through how the answer choice obscurely describes them. One that I came across for the first time was the following:

the conditional statement was

A-->B

B

therefore A

the correct answer choice was worded: fails to consider that there are conditions necessary for A in addition to the presence of B

If you guys have any others, please share!

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Hey Everyone.

My name is Melissa! I tried to study and take the LSAT December 2014. I crashed and burned two weeks before the test. Between working full-time and studying 30+ hours a week I couldn't take it. I am looking to take this LSAT study plan much more calmly, but am looking for someone to study with either in person ( I am in the greater Los Angeles area..think CSUN) or am willing to via Skype. My email is [removed]

Note from Student Services: Don't include emails! PM instead. :)

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Hi all, I'm looking for a Skype study buddy that's already consistently scoring a 168+. My scores fluctuate from 166-168, but I was hoping someone with a higher score might be willing to be my study buddy to help me work through some of the tougher RC/LR questions and help get me to the next level and score higher. I know explaining/thinking through questions with someone else helps, so hopefully it'd be beneficial to both of us.

I'm planning on taking the June LSAT (Sept/October at the latest) and was hoping for a Skype chat like once a week on the weekends starting sometime this month, since I'm moving on to solely taking PTs (rather than reviewing course material) starting with PT 44. If anyone is willing, I'd be eternally grateful!! PM me if interested.

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Hey everyone!

I noticed that a lot of folks are using the Manhattan LR book as an additional study guide. I am wondering if the Manhattan RC and LG books are are also worth purchasing. Thoughts?

Is the consensus that Manhattan Prep is best for LR, Cambridge bundles are good for LR drilling and the Trainer is best for LG and RC?

Are there any additional bundles [worth] purchasing for LG and RC? Would it be Cambridge?

I want to purchase additional material but I'm not sure which books/bundles to get. I am interested in knowing what others experiences have been with these materials.

Thanks!

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Last comment friday, feb 06 2015

Technical problem

I was wondering why when I have a new inbox message it does not let me click on it. Instead it prompts me to a page that says,

"Whoops!

You don't have permission to do that."

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If you plan on taking the lsat Oct. 3rd and you are located in Los Angeles, CA you should join my summer study group. We plan to meet at USC or UCLA. For dates, times and other information please email me at davidson0425@gmail.com. We also have a shared lsat dropbox folder.

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I was just wondering how many total timed preptests (under simulated testing conditions) you all advise doing before sitting down for the actual test? Any insight would be super helpful!

I've finally gotten comfortable doing timed sections in LR, LG and in RC but I've been doing them separately and am really hoping I can maintain the scores I'm getting in all of those when doing them back to back. Is it typical to notice a bit of a drop when doing them all at once?

Thanks in advance!

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Last comment thursday, feb 05 2015

Drilling difficult questions

Hello,

Me again with my questions on drilling. I know that generally speaking the LR sections get more difficult as you go along. Based off this information, I have determined that I am generally missing more difficult questions. The ones I'm missing or struggling with are questions that originally appeared as questions 19-26. I've determined that my problem mostly on these questions is that they have a more complex logical structure or simply a more complex topic/language. I bought a set of one question type of the Cambridge packets but I realize I need to invest in the rest of them. My initial thinking was to start with difficult questions and work down. But after I did a 13 question set last night and the only ones I got right were ones I had attempted before recently and I remembered the answer. Confidence killer. I think now that I need to work from the beginning and work my way up to more difficult questions. I think also a stronger understanding of the 7Sage Logic Curriculum will help. Does anyone have any other ideas about this problem?

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Last comment thursday, feb 05 2015

Thanks 7sage

This is a big thank you to 7sage and hopefully an inspiration to people writing their LSATs... 1.5 years ago when I gave my first LSAT practice exam... the famous 2007 PT that is available for free as prep material, I got a measly 153 that could easily have been a 147. I was in despair because I wanted to get a JD from one of the coveted T14 schools that I had heard so much about in my own country and I literally had no idea as to how to prepare for this test... nada... zilch... zero!!! My dream.. well let's just say that the chances of it materializing didn't seem promising ;) . After working with 7sage for that time, tutoring a couple of sessions with Jon and giving the LSAT twice (last December and this December), I received a score that has secured me entry to GULC (just got the letter on Friday and am still pinching myself to see if I wake up) and my 'dream' of making it to a T14 has finally come true. but I would like to thank 7sage for making this possible. Note to fellow 7sagers: People... you might feel frustrated while prepping... there were days when I certainly did.... scores might drop at times only to rise up again... mine certainly did... but at the end if you put in the work with JY's & Jon's methods.. the result likely be the best score you can achieve. All the best to the Feb test takers!!!

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