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I scored lower on my retake (168) than my first score (169)

I studied for the first take about 3-4 hours a day/5days a week for about 5 months, after a 5 month period in between

my retake was about 2-3 hours a day 4 days a week for another 4 months

My first score was my PT avg the month prior going into the test

My retake was a total underperformance, as I was PTing around 171-173 a month going in...

I retook because I was WL at my top school choices... with my 169...

I'm very disappointed because I really felt confident in my retake especially with a better familiarity of the material this time around...

my LG was 0/-1, LR 0/-4 (avg -2), RC was -3/-6 ( avg -4)

I have used all the recent PT's and the rest for sections and problem sets...

I am definitely thinking about August with the deadline approaching....

How do I approach studying as I used most of the material with no fresh PT to gauge my standing

I appreciate any input

Thank you all!

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Hi everyone,

I've been studying on my own for about 5-6 months, and I am taking the June LSAT coming up. I just recently learned about 7sage and decided to subscribe in the month before my test. Obviously, I don't have nearly enough time to go through all of the material, which brings me to my question: are there are any lessons that you guys felt were the most helpful - or maybe triggered an "aha" moment in your brain - in each of LG, LR, and RC respectively?

Currently, LG is my strongest (scoring around 17-21/23) with LR and RC both behind trailing behind (19-20/25 and 20-21/27). Would welcome any advice given the one month timeline I have right now.

Thanks in advance!

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... Before I spend time gathering a bunch of MBT questions and making them one LR section for practice, does anyone have any idea where I can find something like this? I am looking for 25-27 MBT questions all together as one practice section.

Thanks in advance!

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Hello,

I just wanted to post this to see how other people are learning from their missed questions. As I was looking over some missed questions and seeing why the correct answer is correct, it struck me that I don't have a very good system for learning from my missed questions and remembering my mistakes. I've been blind reviewing of course, and then I will write out my thinking in the "explanation note" box. How are others keeping in mind the mistakes they've made, and carrying it over to similar questions? This is mainly for LR.

Thanks!

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Proctors: Let people choose where they wanted to sit. One ate a sandwich during the test...

Facilities: The university itself is nice and small. The room our test was in however...

What kind of room: A small classroom.

How many in the room: About 30

Desks: SMALL FOLDING DESKS. THE MOST TERRIBLE DESKS IMAGINABLE.

Left-handed accommodation: I didn't pay attention.

Noise levels: Terrible. The window was open and you could hear people laughing/yelling outside. People walked by our classroom talking loudly and the proctors didn't even go out to tell them to be quiet.

Parking: I was dropped off.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: About 40 minutes. They had everyone line up outside in four rows and then each row walked single-file to a different classroom. It was strange. None of the other locations I tested at did this.

Irregularities or mishaps: ^The walking/lining up thing really threw me off. It was unexpected.

Other comments: Terrible. Avoid this location if you can for the small desks alone, not to mention all the other weird parts about it.

Would you take the test here again? NO

Date[s] of Exam[s]: October 2015

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Proctors: Very helpful and friendly

Facilities: Hard to locate but proctors will guide you.

What kind of room: Court room. Seating was uncomfortable

How many in the room: Less than 30

Desks: A lot of desk space available during the test

Left-handed accommodation: Very good.

Noise levels: Door to the room was squeaky

Parking: Very accessible. Free parking on Saturdays

Time elapsed from arrival to test: Total test time took 6 hours

Irregularities or mishaps: N/A

Other comments: I wrote here twice and I recommend it

Would you take the test here again? Yes. Hopefully don't have to re-write though.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: October 3, 2015 and December 5, 2015.

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    If someone has their test date postponed for a couple days after the scheduled test date, are they given a different version of the test in any way? I imagine the 4 scored sections would have to be the same (they are, right?), but are the experimental sections the same as well? Anyone with experience with this?

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    Hey y'all!

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    sooo frustrating. i did well on the lessons, I do the question before listening to J.Y. But then when it comes to the problem sets, I dont do as well. AND, sometimes i get the same amount of answers correct the first time around as I do with blind review but becuase I have changed some of my answer choices the 2nd time around. I dont know how to fix this. Are the “lessons” easier than the problem sets? thanks

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    I have spent half of a year actively studying with 7Sage. I studied for a month in December last year (LR core) and have been consistently studying since May (full-time, 30 hours a week, till August and part time, 5-10 hours, since then). I scored a 144 on a diagnostic test on Khan Academy before 7Sage. My goal score is above a 170.

    I did well on my first few practice tests beginning in September. My first PT was a 160 and my second test was a 167 (1 wrong on each of LR and LG, 9 wrong on reading); Dominating LR and LG while flunking reading was the norm for a while (with an all time high score of 168), so I was confident that everything would resolve itself once I aced RC.

    Since then, my scores have consistently fallen with my last two tests being a 164 and a low of 162, despite learning the reading portion of the curriculum. The PTs I've done are from the mid 30s to 49, but I've only done about half of those, using the rest for more drilling. One possible explanation is that a few of my PTs were 3 section ones (but not my first 167) and I only recently switched back to 4 section PTs.

    I don't think I'm burned out because I feel motivated to study. However, I do think I'm stuck in a cycle of rust because I only have time to do a few hours a week of studying (5-10 hours) due to my job. I either have to choose between reviewing mistakes for a couple sections or timed practice. For example, I brought my RC score down to below 5 consistently for a few section drills, but this investment caused my LG and LR scores to slip due to lack of time to practice these.

    I have more time to study this week but long term, what do I do, besides building endurance by doing 4 section PTs? Though my RC score has improved, RC is still my worst section; but I also need work on LR and LG. And within each of these sections, I miss each question type at a similar rate, including a handful of easier questions, so it's not like all my problems are solved by drilling one question or game type.

    My initial thought is do more fool-proofing in LG and do more blind review and wrong answer journaling/reviewing in LR. No clue what to do to improve RC though: my performance in that section feels random.

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    Working hard on MBT questions but I cannot get the Quickview or Answer drop downs to work. Is the system down for maintenance, and if so, when will it be back up? Thank you!!

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    Obviously most of us know by now that there are a handful of syllogism forms that reoccur over and over throughout the LR. I know that causality is different from conditionality, but I'm wondering how valid argument forms relate to causal arguments? Are these syllogisms applicable to causal arguments at all or are syllogisms applicable only to conditional arguments?

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    Hey y'all!

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    Saturday, Jul 30, 2022

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    The PT 90+

    Hi 7sage,

    I have been scoring between 160-163 on most of the PTs. On all of the PTs 80s I have score above 160 and up. Average is 161. But every time I do the PTs above the 90s, the newest ones from 2020, I always score in the upper 150s.

    My question is: are the PTs in the 90s unusually harder? The RC section in PT 91 is mind-blowing hard and it felt abnormally harder than any other PT I have ever taken.

    Thanks!

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    Proctors: All the proctors were really nice and courteous. The only issue we had in our room was that a lady miscounted the people in the room... twice!! We had to sit there an extra ten minutes for them to figure out what the heck what going on.

    Facilities: The building is beautiful (restrooms and testing rooms). Nothing to complain about here.

    What kind of room: Law Classrooms

    How many in the room: I don't remember the exact number, but it was in the range of about 20 - 30.

    Desks: The desks were in good condition and pretty sturdy. They are the standard long desks a few people share as they face toward the front.

    Left-handed accommodation: N/A

    Noise levels: Other than the other people sitting around you? Nothing out of the ordinary... except I had a guy blowing his nose every 5 min...

    Parking: Parking is a breeze. It's right next to the building. I'm actually not sure if I had to pay for parking, but I did it anyway. It was $5, the last thing I wanted to worry about that day was whether I had to pay for parking.

    Time elapsed from arrival to test: About 30 min.

    Irregularities or mishaps: I briefly mentioned this part above.

    Other comments: Nope.

    Would you take the test here again? Sure!

    Date[s] of Exam[s]: Dec. 7th 2015

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    Hi all!

    As the title suggests, I'm rather new to LSAT studying and just purchased 7Sage (grinded a little through PS bibles until I felt I wasn't understanding them very well). I've taken a diagnostic in Dec 2021, studied on and off until my real LSAT in April. I got a sadly lower score than I anticipated, but it encouraged me to invest in 7Sage and study differently.

    With that being said, I just took another timed PT and scored a better one with still some big areas for improvement. I've already done the blind review.

    What's the next step from here? Do I look for 7Sage content that tackles the topics I got wrong or go through question-by-question to work through each problem again? What has been most beneficial to you all when starting out? I want to be as effective and efficient with my time as possible as my tentative goal is to take the LSAT again in October.

    I'll post my scores if it'll provide context :) (As an FYI, I haven't completely "learned" LG or RC yet and have spent the majority of my time thus far in LR.)

    Thanks and good hunting to all!

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    I am performing pretty well when I take the sections individually, but I am not doing so great when I take the entire PTs. I find it that I get 2-3 (sometimes even 5) more wrong per section when I take the entire PTs. If anyone had similar experience, how did you overcome this? What helped you the most?

    In case it helps, for the past month or so, I have been doing and reviewing at least 3 sections everyday (not necessarily from same PTs though). If I don't have time to do a full section, I would do at least 1 full LR and 2 games and 2 passages. This approach has been helpful, so I get used to "switching" modes.

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