Does anyone know of any good tutors? Planning to take the test in august, but want a tutor to help fill the gaps I'm not seeing or know how to fix on my own.

I have a diagramming problem. I can fly through a complex question stem without diagraming, particularly on parallel reasoning and other LR questions but some harder former questions require diagramming and I can diagram for the live of me. Any tips on the cc?

I've been full time studying for the LSAT for about 6/7 months now, and every day I aim to study 6-8 hours a day. I plan on taking the June LSAT as my first exam, and if I need to retake it, I plan on taking it in August as well. I'm the overthinking go-getter type. I'm sure many of you relate, but recently I've lost all my motivation. I no longer have the attention span to sit at my desk for 6-8 hours a day, and it just feels like I can no longer take my studies as seriously as I was before. I'm cutting corners every which way, and I feel completely hopeless and lost, especially with June being around the corner. I'm starting to think maybe I'm just not cut for this, but I don't know. I know you guys will probably give me the advice of taking some time off, but on top of being an overthinker and go-getter, I'm also someone who suffers a lot from anxiety and stress, so whenever I take breaks, I spend the whole time stressing out about the fact that I'm setting myself back by taking a break which ends up making a break completely useless. I'm a first-generation student, which means absolutely nobody in my life understands what I'm going through, so I feel very alone and defeated, and I just wanted to come on here and ask my fellow LSAT takers for some advice and guidance.

Thank you all in advance!

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Hi All,

As I'm getting faster, and doing more drilling under target time conditions, I'm finding myself quickly picking what I believe to be the correct answer choice. 90% of the time this is correct (if I feel confident). However, in doing so, I am finding myself not spending any time considering the other choices and eliminating them appropriately -- sometimes, I'll skip entirely; other times, I'll let confirmation bias take over and dismiss the alternatives outright.

Any thoghts on how to stay disciplined here and not make careless errors by considering all answer choices (assuming the time to do so)?

Should I blind review immediately after problem sets or wait and it similar to a PT, so that I can have a fresher take?

Hey guys I told myself that if I ever got a score I wanted I would write one of these because I benefitted so much from reading other people's journeys when I was studying and seeing what advice and wisdom they had. So here is mine, This is gonna be long but I think worth the read. Hope it can help at least someone out there. And if you want to skip my whole anime arc to look at section tips you can do that, it'll be at the end.

(Background)

When I started out I probably was something like -12/-11 in LR and RC and literally couldn't do any logic games at all. Also, I want to say I'm very intellectually curious but I'm not some genius at all. I think I'm just normal when it comes to intelligence, so keep that as a frame of reference. I'm a History Major so I had a decent base reading and writing, but I wasn't a good reader honestly and the LSAT would show me this (more on this later). I started studying the summer of my junior year going into my senior year. I did the syllabus and because of my low GPA, I had to absolutely crush this test. I eventually graduated with a 2.97 GPA from UF. Yea I know, I was a bad and immature student (especially my first year) who wasn't smart enough to wing it like others or like I had done in high school. With my bad GPA and feelings of guilt and insecurity over my college career, I knew I wanted to kill this test to not only give myself a chance at going to a good law school but hopefully one with some money paid off as well. I also knew I wanted to kill this test to prove to myself that I was smart enough and capable of being a truly great lawyer.

First Summer Studying (Full-time Summer 21)

I fell in love with 7sage from the start and didn't use any other website really. Let me just say J.Y. wherever you are I hope you are somewhere rich and happy because you deserve it. Anyways, my goal from the beginning was always the divine 170s. So when I started studying I tried to do it right. I took my time diligently going to through the syllabus and getting a good foundation. I literally did 100% of the syllabus and completed it very carefully and put a lot of hours in. This helped but also kind of didn't because of my planning. By the time I got to logic games and doing them over and over again to where I could start to get a grasp my summer was almost over... lol. Not to add reading comp and I knew ok I'm just not gonna be ready in time. Like I felt like even if I keep studying into the fall I could at best get a 160 and it would all get rushed and be a mess because classes would start up again and make studying kind of unrealistic/ impossible. So I delayed a cycle. And told myself that I would go into studying next summer with a good base and just know-how of how to study. I think this turned out to be a great idea.

(Some tips)

DON'T BE AFRAID TO TAKE THE TIME YOU NEED TO GET THE BEST SCORE YOU KNOW YOU CAN GET. It will be worth it and this test is beatable. Trust me, I and many others that are not as smart as you have done it. If you look at it from a purely monetary perspective this test is so worth it. You can literally earn 100,000 in tax-free scholarship money from doing well in this test and even something like 50,000 in scholarships from schools is very achievable. The only thing is, for most people, J.Y. is right; you should be looking at like a one-year timeline to get a crazy score like 170. This is just my opinion and I also want to say you know yourself and the type of student you are and if you are just really smart, or a really good reader already, have a good base and etc. THIS TEST IS VERY MUCH ABOUT KNOWING YOURSELF. I know a lot of people who study 3 months (not even studying that intensely) and get a crazy good score, but they're also the type of people I could see doing that. It is not really the norm I think, and I certainly was not like that although I've always really wanted to be that type of student.

(Fast Forward One Year) Summer of 22' studying full-time

So one thing that's awesome about this test is I think it really is like a sport, a very skill-based and technical sport like soccer for example. Meaning that your skills at this test won't just disappear when you stop studying and you kind of have the muscle memory and foundation after you've seriously studied. When I finished my senior year I started studying and after about a month of drilling I took a PT to see where I was at and I got a 159. I thought great it's early June I should start to see about a 3-point gain every month of studying and by August and September I'll be in the 170's... Lol anyone who has been through the fire knows how silly this is. Silly in the sense that I was in October ( 4 months of full-time studying later) with a fresh PT of 159 and a looming existential crisis. After my first PT that summer of 159 I struggled a lot to consistently improve. I was in the low 160's a lot. And my highest PT score was 168. I took an official LSAT in August and got a 157, took one in October and got a 159, but in November I got a 169 on an official LSAT. This is not normal my most recent PT up to that test was a 162. I don't want to sell any pipe dreams so don't think this will happen to you, I honestly got very lucky and blessed. Leading up to November, I was even ready to delay by another cycle and felt that I was just about to be truly able to dominate the test with some more months. But leading up to that November test I had now been studying 6 months straight plus a few months from last summer. I really did feel like I had it in me to reach that score. My blind review was really good to the point where I felt a lot like damn I could and should have gotten these and these right and that would have put me where I want to be. I feel like the more you put into this test the more you start to get a mastery over it and honestly loved that about it. I kind of miss it to this day. The test is just so technical, repetitive, and doable that the whole thing is really one big game. I think it's useful to think of yourself as an athlete when studying for a test. It might help you enjoy it more and I think it will let you avoid burnout

I want to talk a little about burnout and my experience with it. Dealing with this is what ultimately allowed me to get my goal score and not delay my application for another cycle. I was down in a bad rut leading to my November test. my last chance at a good score for me this cycle. There were bad nights when I cried myself to sleep and was questioning whether I was smart enough to be a lawyer. I felt like I was barely making any progress at all when I looked at my PTs. At the same time though I knew that I was a lot better at this test than that. I knew what I could do if I was in form on test day and confident. So for the last week leading up to November, I didn't study at all. This was a lot for me because this was the longest break I had taken in 6 months I think and fuck me did it sure pay off. In my opinion, this test is not a test of hustling and grinding. Like most things in life consistency is King. Yes, you need to work really damn hard, but you also need to have patience and be kind to yourself. There will be times when you will doubt yourself, when you will even question your ability to read, and when you'll ask yourself how you will ever be a lawyer. This is normal. Understand everyone in this test is on their own journey and NEVER NEGATIVELY COMPARE YOURSELF TO OTHER PEOPLE. You have to be kind to yourself and understand that progress is not linear. This is a performance test and not a knowledge test. But if you are studying right you will get better slowly but surely. Trust.

Ok that was my journey and now some general tips for how to study right: aka the fun part

LR:

-The most important thing about this section is learning how to dissect and digest arguments. A good LR taker will instantly recognize ok premise, conclusion, and premise and this supports this but this argument is actually hilariously bad for example this bc of 'X' oh and wouldn't you know that's answer choice B. Being able to read and analyze for argument structure is key and is how you should think about every question.

-When you're truly good you get this feeling that all questions are honestly the same.

-YES BLIND REVIEW RIGHT

RC:

-It is very important to understand the connection and flow of each sentence/ paragraph to each other and how it all connects.

-You will automatically become better at going through the questions and reasoning through them by watching the videos.

LG:

-Keep trying, and keep trying, and then still keep trying

-And then keep trying. Foolproof that is btw

-The whole "LG is fool proof"philosophy 7sage pushes is right in spirit but misleading i think. LG is still very hard. Even if you are amazing at it and getting -0 you can have games where you slip up.

-The most technical and straightforward section keep chipping away and honing your skills and eventually you can get to around to something like 0-2 wrong.

Well this has been a little embarrassingly long, but this test was my life for like almost a year cumulatively so idc. Ultimately I hope you come to learn more about yourself and grow as a person from this test like I have. And remember this is just some stupid test at the end of the day and it doesn't define your worth as a person or who you are. Hope you all reach your goals bc y'all are more than capable. Enjoy the ride sagers!

P.S. waiting to hear back from schools right now but so far I have gotten into FSU Law with a full ride ($62,000) and that's as a super splitter like me (2.97 169). Dream big and don't let your head drop! you just might surprise yourself...

Hello,

I'm looking for a study buddy for the upcoming June test and looking to apply to few schools in New York that will accept the June test for this fall semester. Willing to meet online or in person if you're located in NYC. Need someone who can hold each other accountable and able to teach each other and go over the drills/sections/PTs. Let me know if interested and we can set something up!

Hi all,

I have decided to retake and reapply after being waitlisted at my top choices. My Question is: I got a 166 on the LSAT. Is there anyway to update that on my 7sage account, or would I need to take another PrepTest to get my current to get a tailored "what I need to work on".

Not sure if that makes any sense but I appreciate your insight.

Are the words "and" and "but" logically the same?

I believe I read this or heard this somewhere; just wanted to be sure.

Hello everyone,

I really want to hear about the study method that has helped you the most. I've taken the LSAT twice before and scored a 160 both times. My goal is to improve by at least six more points. Currently, whenever I take an untimed test, I score in the high 160s and low 170s, but on timed tests the score is often times in the low 160s. On test days, I take the test timed, do a blind review and then watch the explanation videos for questions I was unsure of and questions that I got wrong. It is often times difficult for me to sit through the videos and stay focused. I used this method for the last two times that I have studied for the test, and it obviously has not gotten me to the point where I want to be. I would love to hear about how you study for the test or if you have any suggestions! Thank you for your help!!!

Four years ago, I took a diagnostic, and after seeing my results, I dropped the idea of going to law school. After a year or so, I resumed studying and got a good score.

Today, I've accepted an offer from my dream school - Fordham Law, with $$+. (About Fordham. Among others. The employment outcome is excellent. The campus is breathtaking, in a great location with so many opportunities. The class size of 400+ students gives a vast network).

Thanks 7sage! And thanks to all my study buddies! Especially Graeme @SufficientCondition and @JordanJohnson

I was curious if any others have had issues playing 7Sage explanation videos. I first noticed the issue last night and rationalized it as an network connectivity problem, but the same issue continued today too.

hi everyone! context: i started 7sage in january and plan to take the june lsat. a few weeks ago, i graduated from core curriculum to taking PTs every week. i've been scoring in the lows 160s timed and mid-high 160s/low 170s BR. my goal is a low to mid 170.

does anyone have any tips for how they closed the gap from scoring in the 160s to the 170s? i feel concerned seeing that i only have about 2 months to do so. i'm also not sure how exactly to create a study plan from here besides reviewing my weaker areas and improving on timing.

i'd appreciate any advice/insights/tips from experience :") thanks so much.

How seriously should we take the "actual score" that's provided on our PTs? I can't help but feel like it's an inflated score. For instance, on PT 55, getting nine wrong would've been 167 according to the original curve, but a 170 according to 7sage's "actual score" predictor. What am I supposed to make of this?

If my "actual score" is always a couple points higher than the score assigned to me by the original curve, isn't this implying that the new LSATs are just easier?

Any clarification would be appreciated!

Aside from the study breakouts offered here on 7sage, is anyone interested to cram study for the upcoming April test? Zoom modality, maybe?

If a good set of people is available near the LA area and is willing and able to meet at some library or conference room (i.e. Law Library), that would be even more interactive and efficient.

I’m scoring 150s on my diagnostic. I want to get to 170. I have the power score bibles for logic games and logical reasoning which I’m going through. Also, should I complete ALL of the core curricula ? What are y’all’s thoughts on the loophole ? Should I get that book too?

Hi 7Sagers!

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I'm finding myself confused with how LSAC scales your raw score on prep tests. I'm in a prep course and have taken several official prep tests and have had instances where my raw score has differed significantly, yet my scaled score doesn't show such improvement. I will list my scores and coinciding practice tests below...

PT 84: raw score 44. scaled 144.

PT 65: raw score 50. scaled 146.

PT 85: raw score 54. scaled 148.

PT 81: raw score 60. scaled 152.

PT 86: raw score 60. scaled 153.

PT 87: raw score 69. scaled 157.

PT 88: raw score 65. scaled 155.

PT 89: raw score 70. scaled 157.

My concern is that when looking at general estimated LSAT raw score conversion charts, a 69 can be scaled up to a 173 or 75 can be up to 180 scaled. That's a pretty big difference in the scaled scores I'm seeing! How is this determined and are the 4 section prep tests that I've been using to practice scaled differently than the Flex format and that is why I'm seeing such a difference on these charts?

Lately I've been in a slump where my score has been stuck in the same range as my previous test (164), but I've been trying and failing to break into the 170s. I've been stuck in this range since I first started studying last summer - I was studying pretty on and off during the fall since I was still in college, and began studying full time in January to prepare for the April administration. However, since my score isn't changing at all even though I've been spending at least 5 hours every day studying, I've started to become discouraged and I'm feeling rushed because I gave myself a head start by graduating early so I could get the LSAT out of the way before I started looking for a job, but since I'm not seeing much progress, I'm beginning to feel unsure about continuing to take time off to study.

If I should keep going, any advice for getting out of this slump? Any suggestions (besides tutoring, which is out of the question for financial reasons) would be greatly appreciated!

Hi Everyone,

My name is Shemariel I am a first generation student and hopefully soon be be law student! I am located on the east coast. I have been studying for over a year and going through the this LSAT journey on my own with no mentorship. Literally I don't even think my family understand how big of a task the LSAT is let alone law school. However I have learned alot on my own and believe in my abilities. Thus I wanted to create a support group First-Gen students. Ideally I envision this group being 100% judgement free, a safe space where we can uplift each other and talk about out LSAT challenges and goals, we can meet weekly or once every two weeks. I am open to anything that will empower those who wish to join.

I would like to gage the interest before officially formatting the group, but drop your email or private message me if you are interested (3(/p)

Never really posted before so here goes nothing. I interviewed for a spot in a big firm's paralegal program the other day. Took 20 minutes, went so-so, but less than 4 hours later I got a rejection email. I'm not too broken up about the rejection but it seems ridiculously fast considering I only got off the phone with them and definitely wounded my pride a bit. Should I read into the speedy rejection too much, or am I just doing my typical type-a overthinking?

I'm wondering if anyone has advice on how often one should be doing drills and PTs when early on in their studies. I've been studying for about a month and about to take my second PT and have done one drill. I see some people doing drills every single day. I also hear from people that PTs are valuable later on in your studies rather than too early.

What does drill/PT frequency look like for you, earlier on vs closer to test date? I plan to study for about 6-8 months. Thanks for any input.

Hi,

Over the past 3 days, I've been experiencing a constant "close tester" message in intervals of 3-5 minutes consistently when trying to take prep tests. I thought that this may be an issue with my internet connection at first, but it has been stable. All other websites have no other issues loading whenever I lose my connection to 7Sage. Is there a fix I can do to stop this on my end or is this something wrong server side?

Additional information: I am accessing this site through Firefox and I am also having issues publishing this discussion.

Thanks,

Hi guys, I have a serious issue with test anxieties. How come does a person when he does a drill section by section and gets an average -6 on RC, untimed - but always do it on time - get a -15 on a recent preptest. I diagnosed this as lack of confidence and looming test anxieties. Any tips on reducing test anxieties? I appreciate your comments, thanks.