I am currently scoring around 172 with about -2 LR. People say the best way to learn is to teach, so I think if I explain my thought process in LR it will allow me finally close this gap. I could probably only be helpful for those scoring 164 and below. I'll probably be studying for a while today so feel free to stop by I'll just leave the zoom link here: https://nyu.zoom.us/j/9958274382

I am having a really hard time with RC. When I do full PT's and timed reading sections I am running out of time or rushing and getting -7 to -10 wrong. I definitely think that it is a timing issue because I have done 2 untimed reading sections and gotten -1 and -2. I am hoping to get down to -5 or less on RC in the next couple of weeks before the November test. What can I do to improve my timing? Any advice/tips/strategies is greatly appreciated! Thanks!

My Lsat score still has not posted. It states it's temporarily on Hold, But I still haven't received an email for the reason it would be on hold. Is anyone having this problem as well?

Got 161 at Oct 2020, Jan 2021 and oct 2021.

I feel like the whole year had been wasted.

I scored 168 on both of the newest PTs, and I feel really confident at the October test.

Anyways, congrats to all who get what you want.

I was consistently PTing in the low-mid 160s and BRing in the upper 160s. I just got my score back and it was 9 points lower than my most recent PT and two points lower than my August score. I am so discouraged and disappointed in myself. I know this test isn’t an intelligence test, but it sure feels like it. Going on over a year of studying and making gains right before this test, I was feeling so confident. I’m just at a loss for words and don’t know where to go from here. Sad.

Hey 7Sagers,

Here's the official October 2021 LSAT Discussion Thread.

REMINDER: Under your Candidate Agreement, you may not discuss the details of any specific LSAT questions at any time. For the October LSAT, general discussion of what sections you had, or how difficult you found a given section, or speculation about which sections were scored or unscored, is prohibited until after 9pm ET, Thursday, October 14, 2021.

Posts that violate these rules will be taken down and may result in disciplinary action from LSAC. Let’s work together to ensure the test is fair to everyone, and not share information before everyone has taken the test.

**Please keep all discussions of the October 2021 LSAT here!**(/red)

Update: October 15, 2021

Rules:

✅ You can identify experimental sections. 🙆‍♀️

You can say things such as the following:

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You CANNOT say things such as the following:

I don't know whether to be super sad or super angry right now, so I'll settle on both. My test ended up starting 45 minutes late because of "technical difficulties." NOT ON MY END; I checked everything the night before. On THEIR end, and they were just really unfriendly and unhelpful about it. I could not possibly hate ProctorU more if you paid me.

The connection kept on "dropping," according to them. I went through multiple technical agents. They told me to change my privacy settings, reboot my computer, and on and on and on.

By the time I actually got into the test, I was so flustered it didn't even matter that I'd studied for 9 months, felt 100% ready, and was eerily calm in the days leading up to the test. I already knew I wasn't going to do well, and I'm pretty sure I bombed the first half.

Now, luckily I was smart enough to sign up for November, so in another month I get to do this all again (joy!). I just feel like such a tremendous failure right now; like I wasted 9 months of my life, like it was stupid of me to dare hope I could do something as challenging as go to law school.

Commiserate with me, please.

Hi All,

JY makes copious reference to when rule becomes irrelevant in Logic Games. I have searched the core curriculum to review that lesson but haven't found it yet. Could someone tell me where that lesson can be found, please? Thank you.

Am I the only one who is genuinely feeling pooped after the OCT LSAT? I signed up for November but my studying has been almost non-existent since my test. I feel awful because I should've kept pushing but I've been studying since June 2020 and my brain is fried.

I took the test on 12th. During my first LG section, when there was still around 8 mins left. I was doing the hardest duet one. Suddenly, the proctor shouted at me over the MIC that he wanted to see my ID. I didn't know what happened. I was so scared.

I took the ID and showed it to him.

He asked me: Are you done with your test yet? I said no(almost crying), "it's not, there is still eight minutes left."

He said: Oh, I thought you were done. Go ahead with your test.

He didn't press pause for the whole conversation, which cost me about two minutes, and I didn't solve this LG.

I am a non-native speaker, and the proctor also has strong accent. So I didn't understand her what he was requesting at the beginning.

And because of this incident I dumped the next session RC as well.(luckily someone told me the second section is experiment) I had very hard test make up. LG-RC(rap)-RC(Canadian writer- Paternalism) -LR

I've been thinking about it since Tuesday, it's so infuriating that I completed all the security testing before the exam. Have any of you guys ever been interrupted in the middle of an exam and asked to see the ID?

I quit my job on April and prepare it full time. This is my second lsat. I have been PTing consistently around 170. But I think I have been crewed up on this time.

Why why why? Why some random proctor can interrupted you on such a high stake test and bear almost no cost. Did he do that just for fun?

Can anyone explain to me how the new scoring is going to work and how I should prep for this with PTs? I'm registered for the November 13th test date and have been taking regular LSAT PTs. But I just realized that the new LSAT is a bit different and I have no idea how to adjust my score to reflect what I might actually get on the exam.

On my latest PT, I scored a 162 with a raw score of 78/100. Now that the test will only be three graded sections, how will this change my score? How many can I count on being able to miss in order to get a 170?

I really really need help with RC. I get like -15 and i'm taking the november test. can someone help me please?

Hey all,

So, I got my August results and hit about my average of 155. I am not too disappointed in this mark as I was hovering around this for a while. The area where I struggle most is LR. RC is always between -7 and -11, so I do not want to focus on this area. LG is consistently -1 to -5. LR fluctuates the most with -8 to -16. I find that even when I am confident in an answer, I still get it wrong and once it is explained on here it totally makes sense. I can't seem to wrap my brain around it. I am planning on writing again in October and November. My goal is 160, so I am not too far off, and that should be good enough seeing as I have a great AGPA.

I am thinking that I will go through my practice questions on 7Sage again. I will do them timed, do my BR, and repeat this process until something sinks in.

I am wondering if anyone has any other tricks that worked for them with LR? While 7Sage has helped me a lot, I am just looking for some suggestions on LR studying that worked for others?

Thanks in advance,

Stephan

Does anyone else read an LR stimulus, answer it with confidence immediately, and the pause and reread everything again and then change your original answer, But then, your original answer was correct?

I have no idea what I created this habit weeks before the Nov. exam!

.#IHATEMYLIFE

I take the November test and I'm still missing -12 to -15 on every LR section.

Does anyone know on which date we will be able to schedule the date and time of our November LSAT on proctoru? I don't see the date anywhere on LSAC.

Hey just finished the retake!! Just wondering if the score for todays retakers will be released on 10/27 like everyone else or we will have to wait longer? Can't find anything on it just that the 10/14 - 10/17 retakers get their score on the 27th still.

Sufficient Assumption question

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-48-section-4-question-21/

Under the timed condition, I got this question right by diagramming as follows:

Context: Ignore unpleasant realities and tell small lies (A) → Sincerity (/B) (B → /A)

Premise: Succeed (C) → Trust (D)

Conclusion: Succeed (C) → face unpleasant realities and speak about them honestly (/A) (ignore unpleasant realities and tell small lies)

Answer choice

(A): D → B

So I picked (A) and moved on.

However, when I was BRing, I got confused by the first sentence:

"Traditional norms (...) prevent sincerity by requiring one to ignore unpleasant realities and tell small lies."

Because of the word "require," I thought I should diagram as

(1) Sincerity (/B) → Ignore unpleasant realities and tell small lies (A) (/B → A)

(Basically this means if you want to prevent sincerity you have to ignore unpleasant realities and tell small lies.)

Since I couldn't connect the chains, I thought again and thought I was right diagramming as follows:

(2) Ignore unpleasant realities and tell small lies (A) → Sincerity (/B) (B → /A)

(If you ignore unpleasant realities and tell small lies, you can prevent sincerity)

But is (2) the right way to diagram this? Is it correct to think that "by" is a sufficient condition indicator? :(

Any help would be very much appreciated!!

My issue with this stimulus is about the term consent versus consult. If ANY of the members had said "No" to the release of this report, would that still mean the chairperson consulted them?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-73-section-2-question-12/

Can someone explain to me why Answer choice A is the correct answer for PT 84 Game 4 Question 22 and Answer choice C is the correct answer for PT 84 Game 4 Question 23? Thank you.

Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-84-section-4-game-4/

So Basically from my understanding B is correct because since the study were choosing paintings that were aesthetically better does not mean the other preschoolers artwork were displeasing or the experts work is necessary pleasing? Because it seems like the author is saying that because since the participates chose the the experts work over a preschoolers work he assumed that it abstracts expressionist work is pleasing over the preschoolers work which makes the preschoolers work displeasing which isn’t the case because it is no more pleasing than the experts painting? Am I correct with this? Cause I’m a bit confused on why this answer isn’t A.

Admin Note: edited title; please use the format of "PT#.S#.Q#(P#) - [brief description]"

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-86-section-1-question-16/

Hi all! I've been pondering this question for a while but still have trouble seeing why answer choices (B) and (D) are incorrect.

I tried to supply polar answers to the questions posed in (B) and (D). My thought process was:

Any light you can shed on my thought process (and why it's incorrect) would be greatly appreciated! #help

Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-27-section-4-question-06/

J.Y. starts the video off and seems to think it's obvious how to diagram the game, but when I did it, I was totally unsure and did three different types of diagrams (one where it's a single row of 5 slots, with each game piece having the lecture hall attached to it, such as OH, OG, etc.; another where it was two columns, one for G and another for H; and so on).

There are several LG I've done where the set-up reads very similar to this one, yet the diagram was totally different in the solution.

How can I identify this game type in the future and know how to diagram it immediately?

Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-70-section-3-game-4/

I can't seem to find a direct answer to this. Will the November LSAT be Flex with 3 graded sections plus an experimental section or will the test be back to normal?

I'm a bit confused about the last paragraph. It states that the soil that was taken from land that's been out of production for twenty years contains beneficial microorganisms in the first sentence but when I go further, it states that beneficial microorganisms are lacking (Lines 45-50) so which is it? I thought lines 45-50 supported D but then the first sentence contradicts D so idk what's going on.

Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-65-section-3-passage-4-questions/