Hi everyone,

I am planning to take the LSAT in October. My goal score is 165. I’ve been scoring consistently in the mid 150s and sometimes will score a 158/159. I haven’t been able to crack 160.

Logic games is my worst section by far. Reading comprehension fluctuates. And LR is typically -4/-5. Any advice? It would be greatly appreciated.

I just took the LR sections on PT 65 today. For both sections, I seem to run out of time. The first section with 25 questions, I had 5 minutes left to answer the last 5 questions. I got 17/25 right for that section. The second section with 26 sections, I had 5 minutes left to answer the last 6 questions. I got 20/26 for that section.

I mostly get Qs 1-(17-20) right with 2-3 errors in those questions.

Then towards the end of the section Qs 17-26, I get half/most of them wrong.

For the first 10 Qs, for each sections, I had 22-23 minutes remaining.

I'm not sure where to focus my studying so that I can improve. Tips?

Hi guys - I had a nightmare experience with Proctor U and was just reached out by LSAC to potentially sign up for a retake of the August exam.

For anyone that has taken a retake, does this retake count as an additional attempt? For example, the August exam I took on the 16th was the 2nd time I’ve taken the exam. If I am to take a retake, would this count as my 3rd or will it still remain my 2nd attempt?

Thank you all for your help. Best of luck studying for everyone!

A --> B

-B --> -A

Is the following possible (could be true)?

-B --> -A --s-- B

So basically, is it a possibility (could be true) for the necessary condition to sometimes be the logical opposite of the sufficient condition?

Sorry if this seems stupid or even not pertinent to the lsat, but I'd really like to know.

Or maybe a better to ask this(?):

If -B --> -A, then is -B --> -A AND B necessarily false?

I hope I'm making sense :/

Edit:

I guess "sometimes" would not fit because of the 100% possibility sometimes implies. So I guess -B --> -A --x--> B could be true. ( --x--> meaning not necessarily, aka 0-99 % possibility)

Just finished my first LSAT take (August) and thought this would be a good time to give something back to the 7Sage community!

I've been studying for the LSAT for a year. I started with a diagnostic of 157 (although it wasn't a true diagnostic score as I'd done the Blueprint video course beforehand). I've gotten my PT score up to the 170s with my highest being 177, and a lot of that improvement was thanks to the 7sage question taking interface and explanation videos.

I also found a wonderful tutor @Christopherr through 7sage who helped me get from the low 160s to the 170s.

The most intimidating section for me was logic games. Although I got to a point where I understood the games and could do them without losing any points untimed, when it came to doing all 4 games under time, I felt hopeless.

Thanks to a combination of @Christopherr, 7sage, and analysing my own mistakes, I learned about several strategies that I could use to shave off time without losing out on accuracy and wanted to share them with anyone who might be interested.

This session is aimed at people who are familiar with all the game and question types and are now working on their speed. If you're a beginner you might benefit too as these tips could prevent you from forming some unhelpful habits.

We'll go through a sample game or two (I'll pick some from the pre-60s so as not to "spoil" any more recent ones) while I talk us through my approach, and you can ask any LG related questions that you have.

To join the session, just use the Zoom link below.

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I've heard that foolproofing the games from PT50 to the present is a good idea, and I am leaning in that direction because a lot of the earlier games do seem to be relics of the past. But I also want to be able to do my full PTs from the newer tests. How should I reconcile this apparent paradox?

Not sure why this question isn't clicking. I have no idea how this question stem relates to a dog being a pit bull because of what it does, not because of its breed. I think I am unable to unattach a dogs "breed" from the term, "pit bull." Can anyone help me out? Thank you!

What’s up fam - it’s your boi lsat_sus.

I hope the Aug flex folks practice some self-empathy if you didn’t feel too hot on your exam. “Just keep swimming” as the great blue aquatic specimen so graciously stated.

I just took PT 86 and did “not bad,” and after thorough review I think I got the underlying logical reasoning structure for the second LR section. I’d love to discuss it with y’all this Saturday night at 7:30pm** CST.

The plan is to do the entire section together and explain what I extrapolated from those questions that I hope will be applicable to future LR questions.

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lsat_sus

Anyone not seeing the active link to launch the test?

Is there a deadline to send?

Does JY want us to write down low resolution summaries of each paragraph during actual RC practice tests and on the LSAT, or is it just a tool to use whilst learning how to do RC?

Hi guys. I've heard it's best to annotate the least amount as possible on RC to account for time and accuracy on answers. I was wondering, what are your strategies and methods towards annotating for the RC passages. Do you highlight specific things like author's tone or change in language, etc? I would love to know to try out new ways of annotating on the digital test to see what works best.

I'm currently scoring between -8 to -6 in RC but need to get it to at least -4 by October!

How can we assume that answer choice B assumes an ice age period? I agree that: given we are in an ice age the concentration of oxygen 18 is increased but I switched my answer because that explicitness is not present and we know only in an ice age period it is increased otherwise it is in statis from the precipitation. I am thrown off here because the other answer choices make the distinction and this one doesn't.

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Hello all,

I am having a VERY difficult time with Sufficient Assumptions. JY says use logic for these questions, but every time I TRY to use it, it messes me up and slows me down. I feel like I am doing a math question. So, when I read the answer choices, in my head I expect it to be an outcome of one of the "forms" that he showed us.

HOWEVER, when I do it in my head and just simple compare then try to find gap between premise and conclusion I am quicker and accurate. Can anyone help, please?

Am I approaching this type of question correct? What mentality do you approach it with?

Premise

Conclusion

hi! im a bit confused about the timeline of the aug lsat release date and the oct registration deadline. it seems as though the august score will not be released until sept 10 but the last day to register for the october lsat is august 25th. further, you dont get a refund for the registration past sept 5, am i missing something? if anyone has more info that'd be great

Hello,

My Mac is not passing the ProctorU RAM usage test. Other than that, everything else checks out. Will this be a big deal in terms of smoothness of the test?

My first LG was about security guards (brutal). My second involved camps. I hope the first was was experimental. If anyone has any insight please lmk.

RC

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Hello! I could really use some advice. I took the June 2021 LSAT and got an average/good enough score for some of the schools to which I plan on applying. However, the score was not what I wanted so I took the August 2021 LSAT.

I felt good about 3 sections. Unfortunately, I did terrible on one of the two RC sections. On the first one I felt fine, but the second one I basically guessed on 18 questions because I ran out of time. I’m hoping that second RC section is the unscored. However, if it’s the section that is scored I am confident I will probably get a very low score (lower than my first LSAT).

Should I cancel my score and try again in October or should I take my chances and see which RC section ends up being scored? I worry if I don’t cancel I’ll have a very low score on my record.

If I cancel my August score, would taking it October 2021 be too soon/should I wait for the next application cycle or is 8 weeks enough time to focus on my weak areas?

Any crystal ball predictions for tomorrow's test (8/16)? Any particular things you're doing to prepare and/or brushing up on?

Also, what are the chances they reuse sections from sat/sun? (e.g. nigerian language RC, quantum physics RC, security guards LG)

Maybe I'm thinking too much, but perhaps not.

I first posted this question in the comments section of one of the CC lessons (https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/quiz-group-1-and-2-translations-1-answers/?ss_completed_lesson=17922), but since no one has yet to respond, I'm posting this here.

Main gist is, how should I treat subjunctives in questions?

Take, for instance, one of the sentences from this particular lesson "I would not be able to see Arun if he were in the next room."

According to standard grammar rules, "[I]f he were" indicates a subjunctive, which means in fact that Arun is not is the next room. This means that the sufficient is thus negated.

Or another example, this one from Fiddlers on the Roof. One of the famous scores has the line "If I were a rich man..." The character singing is not rich, that's why the subjunctive form of the verb "to be" is used.

If I see such a phrasing in the stimulus of a question, shall I assume that the sufficient is negated?

Dear everyone,

I am on the game section of the CC. I am amazed by the creativity of JY to draw these beautiful diagrams. My concern is that I was not born with an innate knowledge on how to draw these diagrams, and I have to watch JY’s explanation videos every time to understand how to visually represent the game pieces and rules. I am just wondering if I would have to watch all game videos from all available practice tests (PT1-90, I believe) to learn how to draw these game pieces and rules. I don’t mind, but I am just curious – does, at one point, patterns on drawing these emerge, and we are able to draw game pieces and rules without having to watch JY’s videos on how to draw them? I would like to emulate JY’s method as I find them easy to understand and visually represent, but I am unsure of how I would be able to autonomously draw these game pieces and rules when I actually encounter a fresh game section. After watching the video and learning how to visually represent the game pieces and rules, I am able to finish the game section within the target time with not even a single incorrect answer. This is what JY advised to do – print ten copies of the game and keep doing them until we can finish it within the target time without getting any question wrong. Could anyone please share light on this? Let me summarize my questions below:

Best,

Ken

Hi all, I just finished the August exam and I hope everyone did well! Unfortunately, I was interrupted repeatedly throughout my first RC section by a pop-up that said "reconnecting". It obscured the exam, but the time was still running. Because of this, I lost probably 10-15 minutes of exam time and had no opportunity to answer the last 7 RC questions because the pop-up was appearing every few seconds at that point. Not to mention, the entire experience was disruptive and threw me out of my flow state.

I eventually got my proctor's attention, but it was too late for the RC section. During the following section (LR), we had to pause everything at question 14 and test my WiFi speed. Not as bad as the RC, but the interruption still made it more difficult to focus.

I have a feeling that I'm not alone in this. I even tested everything multiple times on ProctorU before starting the test. Does anyone know what we can do?

[I am posting on behalf of a 7Sage user. Please feel free to leave your comments below. Thank you for your help!]

What would you do if you do not have an option to make a note or low res on the LSAT test in regards to RC since it is a long passage to remember all details ? I have seen Mr. JY explanation on RC and the way he is doing it but I do not know how to make it easy .