I can talk to anyone, so I might as well post it here. I have been stuck at 157 for the last four PTs that I've taken, and I do not know what to do. I want a minimum of 160 as my score to get into my dream school (Loyola in New Orleans). If you have any tips on how to improve RC, PLEASE SHARE THEM WITH ME. My RC is between -11 to -14, and I can't improve it; my LC is -4 to -6 and LG -4 to -7.

I've been doing logic games for about a month now, and overall I'm not struggling with them too much but they're definitely not my best out of the three sections. I trust that the foolproofing method must be a good way to get people's scores up, because obviously 7Sage wouldn't swear by it if it didn't work, but I'm really having a hard time wrapping my brain around it. I just don't find it useful because as soon as I've seen JY's explanation videos, I remember everything he says and all the right answers. This makes it very difficult to approach the game the next time as if I'm actually doing the game, and not just going through the motions to replicate what JY did. I just watched one of the videos where JY narrates a student going through a game in their foolproofing period, and in the game the student was not representing all the rules correctly or getting all the answers right, which makes me wonder if I should be approaching this differently because I always just do exactly what JY told us to do. I can do the games maybe twice after blind review and still feel like I'm getting a better understanding of them, but when JY says to get 10 copies of a game that just feels like it would be useless, because at that point I know the game so well that I don't even feel like I'm having to think about the right answers. It feels almost like confirmation bias? Like I already have in the back of my head what I'm looking for, so it doesn't feel like an accurate representation of what doing the games on test day will be like. Does that make sense? And if so, does anyone have any feedback or experiences to share that could help clarify this for me?

Thanks in advance!

Reading comp was my strongest section for the longest time (which is odd I know), and now I can never focus on the passages and end up getting like -6 or -7. I don't get what happened. I feel like reading comp was just something I was naturally good at. Now that I've gotten LG down to -0 or -1 (started from like -10 :O), of course reading comp acts up!! Ughhhh help- thanks guys!!

What was the best way to see LR improvement? I started out really strong on PT's (for me) getting like -3. Now I get -5 to -8 and it is extremely frustrating. I'm trying to drill weak points, but I am kind of all over the board. Does anyone have good tips for how to see improvement (I study for 4 hours every day and am hoping there is a solution that will show results)? Thank you!!

Could someone please explain further about E?

In terms of (E), how do we know that "the biggest decreases in family income" were occurred within the period from 1996 to 2004? Because of this trouble, I picked E under the concept that I can't make an unwarranted assumption about the time the biggest decreases occurred. I can't really figure out what did I miss.

Thank you for your help.

Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-75-section-3-question-22/

Game rule: If jays, martins, or both are in the forest, then so are harriers.

Correct way to write it: J and M -> H (basically J -> H , M -> H).

But for some reason I thought it was translated as "sufficient or" ( J or M -> H ).

Any thoughts on why it is (J and M -> H)?

So I been getting like low 160s the past few tests and everything is good but when I get up to a more difficult conditional LR question, I completely struggle. How do I get better at these? I tried drilling but that didn't really help that much.

HELP!! I'm writing in June but still desperately need to get my LR down. I've heard people swear by the Loophole book for where I am right now, but would I even benefit only a bit more than a month out from test day? Does it make more sense to just keep doing deep reviews of PT questions from 7sage and hope to see improvement?

Been consistently in the low 160s for the past month and though I have made progress, I struggle sometimes to be in the LR mindset. Sometimes I can focus on stimuli and use my methods for question types easily and other times i barely understand what i am reading. This has led to -4 last time on my lr to -10 yesterday on a pt. How do i get consistent and in the lr mindset when doing pts?

Thanks

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So I'm able to make the majority of the inferences in logic games and I'm almost always able to finish a whole section with no pacing issues. My problem is I tend to get sloppy. Either i accidentally skip a rule altogether or I'll make the tough inference only to waste it by combining it with another rule incorrectly.

I'm trying to find the best way for me to be as meticulous as possible so i don't have this issue to begin with. But in the meantime, any strategies for correcting errors midgame without it costing me the rest of the section?

I can taste the -0 but it keeps alluding me!!!

Hello folks,

I have a quick question for you concerning this Weakening Except question. I understand why A is right, and I always pick A when I come across this question. But I'm trying to have a solid understanding of why other ACs are wrong, and I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around E.

Social interaction interaction of the kind not engaged in by depressed people is known to stimulate left lobe activity. Isn't it somewhat consistent with the stimulus that states that depressed people don't have much left lobe activity? I see a link depressed leads to no social interaction (as it is a result of depression), which leads to poor left lobe activity.

I know E is supposed to weaken the argument, so I'm trying to see how it does it to not be tempted by the wrong answer in a similar question.

Thank you,

KTC

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-28-section-1-question-23/

3 weeks away from the September exam and PT 72 just killed me. Trying really hard to not beat myself up over this and taking it as a learning experience, however this is easier said than done. My RC score was my saving grace and after this PT... I'm just shook.

Any "post L PT trying not to have a meltdown so close to the exam" rituals you guys have?? Please lmao :( (3(/p)

Hi @Juliet-- , and all, I know typically it is best i have heard to read all answer choices for LR to make sure you are correct and not being tricked, but are there certain types of questions (I think parallel reasoning for example) where it makes sense to just get to the answer you predicted/that matches, and move on to save time? are there are types of questions where you should just move on?

Same question can apply to RC. should you pick right answer, or go through all answer choices for completeness? thanks!

Last PT I took was 74 and got a 165. Missed 8 in RC. Need help with RC strategy. Taking LSAT in June.

Hi everyone,

Wondering if some of you who have gone through admissions process might be able to chime in here? April LSAT Flex scores just released and I scored substantially (5+ points) lower than my PT average. I'm already signed up and plan to retake in June.

I'm a first-time test taker and had a horrendous time getting ProctorU to function on my prehistoric MacBook Pro. Spent 1 hour or so on tech support call before beginning exam, which rattled me to say the least!

I have Score Preview option available so cancelling is a possibility but I've seen mixed advice on how a cancel looks to ad comms when you apply. The score in question is not bad (166) but I've scored higher than this on every PT I've taken (I've been religious about simulating actual test day conditions on each PT so I don't think this is a huge factor...) I also don't want to wreck my chances at a T14, especially in a cycle as competitive as this fall's likely will be.

Would appreciate this community's guidance as I think about how to move forward.

Hi everyone I took the April LSAT and am cancelling my score for the June LSAT retake. I continue to struggle with RC. Trying not to get bogged down by the articles stating RC is the hardest to improve but I cannot seem to grasp how to get through at least 3 passages all correctly. What is your strategy? What is your method of attack when approaching a RC passage? What do you look for and ask yourself along the way? Appreciate any input thanks

Hello! I have been having issues with finishing RC on time. I used to go over 15 minutes. I have managed to go over the time limit by 5 minutes and am struggling to finish all the questions on time. I usually barely have time to finish the last passage. I was wondering if anyone had tips on how to speed up on RC? I tend to spend an average of 50 seconds, leaving me around 12 minutes for reading all the passages. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to read faster? How to determine when to skip questions? If it is a good idea to start reading a passage that covers a subject that you tend to find more difficult? Is it a good idea to stop writing notes on a separate piece of paper about main points in each paragraph? Alternatively, if it is a good idea to write notes about each paragraph, what specific details should I limit my writing to? Any advice would be of great help!

Do you physically jot down notes as you read under timed conditions? Notes as in a few words for each paragraph that capture important content or structure or both. Is there an effective way to do this, if effective at all?

I've tried this in the past but I'm always short on time, but maybe my system of notation is just too unwieldly, so I switched to a highlighting system but then my memory fails me.

Any advice is appreciated!

It only took me three attempts but I was able to score almost 20 points higher than my diag. I could not have done it without the support from 7sage the community and of course, the LSAT wizard himself, J.Y.

In need of a moderately priced RC tutor. LSAT has ran me flatout broke so I can't afford any high-priced tutor. I was really improving and then when I went back to CC, my average dropped significantly after. I can't tell if it's old passages or something else.

Hi!

I am looking for a RC tutor to work with.

For context, my average score under time is at -5 to -7 RC (I'm at -1 LR and -1 LG). The frustrating part is that my BR score for RC isn't that much different: it's around -3 to -6.

My guess is that either I'm not reading right, or I'm not approaching the questions right, or some of both. I was wondering if we could work on improving accuracy on RC BR first.

If you know of anyone, please let me know! Thanks!

P.S. I'm aware of the 7Sage's Approved Tutors. I have reached out to some that I thought would be a good match for me, but they are all either full or have not messaged back.

Hi everyone,

Wondering if anyone has run into this issue. I've naturally been doing well with LR and RC. The 7sage courses helped me get to about an average of -1 on each of those sections. The problem is that I can't seem to get to a consistent -1 to -3 on LGs. Its especially frustrating given how everyone always talks about how it is the easiest section to learn.

I have used the foolproof method fairly extensively. Having done and redone every logic game from Tests 1 - 78. I can redo the sections and get -1/-0 when I do. I also made a tracker of harder and hardest games from Tests 1-78 and did and redid these until I could do them quicker than the recommended time. I've also redone the LG syllabus and whizzed through all the sections.

The problem is... I still am struggling to rap my head around new harder/hardest questions that pop on tests I haven't seen before, especially if its a miscellaneous game. Sometimes its due to panic but other times I am just genuinely stumped. This seems to happen on every new PT I take.

I am averaging low 170s with about -4 or -5 (sometimes worse) in the logic games. I recognize that I am fortunate o have a high base-line score but I have poured in 200+ hours into logic games and it remains my biggest obstacle to being a consistent mid 170 scorer.

Anyone have any advice or deal with the same issue? I've always been awful at puzzles!

Looking for clarity re: the curve on this one. From what I can gather (from PowerScore podcast), the curve for April's LSAT is much tougher than how the PrepTests here have been curved.

Am I staring down the barrel of a lower score than all of my PTs?

Hello everyone. My original plan for the summer was to study throughout the summer and take the LSAT in August. I have not really been studying, so I would not be ready for the June exam. I just got offered an internship in DC that is from mid-June through early August. It is a great opportunity, but I am worried I could not efficiently study for the LSAT while I am there. I am not aiming to score super high, but I am concerned that I have not really been studying at all. Any advice would be appreciated.