Need to break through my mid-160s plateau in order to get at least a 170 on the April LSAT! I've been scoring -3 on LG and LR on almost every test (sometimes less on LG) but for some reason getting a range from -1 to -8 on RC. Any advice? I really don't want to have to retake in July :( My BR's are around 169-171. I know they should be higher, but if I could just get them to match my overall test score I'd be fine and never think about the LSAT again!

Basically, I am wondering whether I can still sign up for the April LSAT and have the ability not to take it.

I picked the correct answer but, just for the purpose of learning, I wanna discuss further the logical structure of (D).

Regarding the first sentence----"Depending on volume of business, either one or two or three store detectives are needed for adequate protection against shoplifting."----I have two questions:

Any help will be greatly appreciated!

Leon

Hey guys, this may have been previously covered but I am curious to hear about test day experiences in terms of signing in to ProctorU and the LSAC Hub. Did you just sign in to ProctorU and receive instructions from the test proctor before starting the exam. Does your exam start exactly at the assigned start time? I suppose just logistically how do you go about signing in to bother ProctorU and the LSAC Hub come test day and any advice for clearing out room prior to the test. Good luck everyone and thanks for any feedback!

Hey I'm trying to foolproof games 1-35 pacifico style. I stumbled upon pt. 16 game 4. This is the hardest game I've ever seen. I thought PT.12 (game 4?) the flask game was hard but this game I can't even attempt the questions.. I spent 2 hours trying to understand it. I thought my confusion was that I didn't realize odd/even alternate. Afterward I realized this.

Now I guess the fifth rule is confusing me?

low defeats higher then switch but wouldn't this revert back to the original?

Idk a lot of rambling here but feel free to tell me ur reactions to pt 16 game 4, whatever they may be...

(This is the tennis game where u switch odd & even) 5 slots)

Also, do u guys skip 5 star games when ur foolproofing and save em for later? or..?

For those who initially struggled with LR (-5-7 a section), did you get better with more exposure to the test? If not, how do you overcome a weak LR section?

How does one distinguish between some-referring to a single person option like, (some people say the LSAT is hard) vs when a author of passage use "some" to indicate another person(s)'s views in a given passage? This question is in context to ** LSAT 29 - Section 4 - Question 06**

hey everyone! I'm working through in/out games and am wondering if anyone can point me out to a part in the CC where JY goes over conditional rules / more complicated ones used in grouping games. is there some sort of consolidated list we can use?

I appreciate it!

Hello,

I plan on using my Macbook to take the exam. I understand the proctor generally checks your desk area - I'm not sure if he or she checks your laptop...? Do you use your own laptop to show your room?

I've read and saw a youtube video where they mention you can use your phone camera for the proctor to check your room. If I am using my laptop and use the phone so they can approve my laptop, I imagine I need ProctorU on my phone as well?

Sorry for the weird question, this came up in my head as I'm setting up my test area!

Previous FLEX takers, how did the proctor check your room?!

Curious what y'all think of the following - below was my translation of a Powerscore logical reasoning quiz, and then what they had listed...

The strike will end only if management concedes a pay raise.

Only if, necessary

The strike will end: /S

Management concedes a pay raise: McPR

/S-->McPR

/McPR-->S

If management does not concede a payraise, then the strike will continue.

Powerscore says:

SE = strike will end; MCPR management concedes a pay raise

SE-->MCPR

(if the strike ends, then management conceded a pay raise)

/MCPR-->/SE

(If management does not conced a pay raise, then the strike will end.

I guess what I'm wondering is how many of you would consider SE to be strike will end vs hstrike will end being equated to /S

Hey everyone...

I'm only about a quarter of the way through the curriculum, so perhaps this is discussed later in the courses, but after being confused with how group 3 and 4 interact, I sought out explanations as to how to combine rules and ultimately settled on just following the rules as JY presented them...

However, that led me to thinking of examples where this might not hold true, and I came up with the following example which combines group 1 and group 3, based on the example from the cheatsheet:

All horses are strong, unless they have been drugged.

Obviously, grammatically this isn't a complicated sentence, so I suspect it is something we would see fairly frequently on the LSAT. That being said, I'm curious how we tranlslate a more complicated sentence like above? What I came up with was:

All: group 1, sufficient

All horses: H

are strong: S

H-->S

/S-->H

unless: group 3, negate sufficient

unless they have been drugged: D

At this point, it seems like if we treat the first statement, "All horses are strong" as X, and "unless then have been drugged" as Y, then we should have /Y-->X

Therefore, is the following correct?

/D-->H-->S

/S-->/H-->D

If it is not a horse that is strong, then it has been drugged.

Please #help?

At first I thought I had this and was feeling good, until I got a question wrong, read the explanation and found out that what I considered to be background context information, the author/solutions/explanations used the statement as the premise, that according to the explanation, resulted in a totally different answer.

In the absence of premise/conclusion indicators, what is the best method or way to decipher and/or distinguish between premise, context, and conclusion/(thesis) information. In addition, in using the "so test" to determine, I find it a matter of opinion as to what sounds right or wrong for a conclusion statement determination. Thereby, some stimulus have the conclusion broken up throughout the passage whereby you have to piece the words or phrases together in order to come up with the proper conclusion. Thus in using the wrong method to choose a conclusion, could yield in choosing or picking the wrong answer choice and an unpleasant LSAT score.

Please help. Thank you.

On the logic games, I am SLOW. I've been working on them combining 7sage and the PowerScore Logic Games bible. What I am finding is I either have great accuracy and can complete like 1 to 1.5 games or I am able to complete them faster, but my accuracy suffers. Is this a hurdle to improvement or am I pushing for more speed than I am ready for at this point. For context, I am taking the LSAT in April, so I don't have forever to study.

Hey all -

When I checked my laptop functionality last night on ProctorU, it said my RAM exceeded the limits. I deleted some old things and it seemed to work fine. However, I checked again this morning and now apparently my RAM is over again. Has anyone else had trouble with this? Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks!

Is anyone good at answering these? This question type is the one i am have the most trouble with. How should I approach it? As a strengthening or a SA? Is there a better way to answer these?

Can someone please explain why D is right and E is wrong?

For the LR sections and flawed question types, I've seen the answer choice "presupposing what it seeks to establish" quite often. My thought process for this choice is that the argument assume something that it needs to have first established, but that still isn't very clear to me. Can someone explain in better detail what this answer choice means? Thanks!

Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone could possibly provide some advice for the situation that I am in. I am scheduled to take the LSAT this weekend and I have been preparing since October.

Two weeks ago, I was out for a run and I slipped and hit my head. I sustained a concussion and I have not studied since as I am still experiencing symptoms. I have documented the concussion/symptoms with my doctor.

At this rate, I know that I am not in the best position to do well on the exam and I probably will not be taking it.

Given the circumstances, will the LSAC allow me to move my test date to the April exam free of charge?

Has anyone else had a similar circumstance where they were not able to take the LSAT due to a medical reason?

Hi All,

I need some advice. I've been studying for the lsat on and off for the last 2+ years. The highest I've ever hit on a timed PT has been a 159 with a BR scores of 177-179. I took the official Nov 2020 lsat and scored a 156. My highest official score before this has been a 157. I'm struggling. I stopped studying for the last two months thinking I scored in the low 160s in Nov, only to find out in Jan that I got a 156 (score delayed b/c of writing sample). Anyway, I'm officially registered for the Feb exam and I'm feeling lost.

I have a whole week off from work to study. I have a respiratory condition and have been severely sick for almost all of January. I just started back up with the studying in early Feb, but I'm feeling very rusty. I'm scoring -6 in LR.

Games is my weakest section, I'm not able to finish more than 3 timed. For RC, I'm not able to finish more than 3 passages and even in the ones I attempt, I'm looking at a -5 (roughly -7 to -9).

I'm so lost on what to do. Do I spend a majority of next week focused on drilling games and try to get my score up that way?

Should I just forget taking the Feb exam all together b/c improvement this late in the game is so unlikely?

It has been extremely difficult in finding some consistent time in the day where I can focus on just lsat prep, as I work over-time. My studying has been inconsistent overall.

I already have 4 scores on record, all in the 150s. And I'm an applicant in this year's cycle. I know it's late in the game, but I'm not really aiming for T-14 schools. I'm considering part-time programs. I'm a little embarrassed that I'm still studying for this exam (over 2+ years later) but given my sub 3.0 GPA, I really need to break into the 160s.

I have no interest in delaying another cycle and I really do not want to re-take this exam again.

My main questions are whether surpassing a score in the 160s is realistic and if so, how should I spend my time in the next couple of days?

Thank you for reading my post. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Good luck to everyone applying this cycle.

Does anyone have any advice in using 7sage test analytics for RC? The ease of "hey just do more of X type of question" from LR and LG don't translate well to RC. Do people use this part of the analytics much? Or do people just go "ya i just have to work on humanities passages"

Thanks!

I am wondering if I'm doing mine correctly. My assumption is that once it "clicks," I can self-correct. But I might be wrong so I'm wondering how those of you that used the Loophole checked your drills for accuracy?

Necessary assumption questions are kicking my ass. If anyone has any resources or a way of teaching it to me I would be forever thankful. I understand it in concept but when it comes to the questions I struggle a lot.

I'm new to the site, but I've been familiarizing myself with the LSAT for a while. I'm aiming for a score 172+, and from the PTs I've done, I know that my most glaring weakness is Logic Games. I'm generally going -2/-3 in RC and LR, but in LG, the best I've done is -9. So, here's my question: could it be wise to jump straight into the LG section of the 7sage curriculum, and ignore the foundations of LR and RC? How much do these topics build on each other, and what am I risking if I skip some of these more "foundational" lessons?

Hi so my main problem is timing for LR. How can I decrease my time without sacrificing accuracy. Any tips would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Does anyone have any advice on how much studying to do, or soecifically what to do, the week of the LSAT?

Im 6 days out from the LSAT. I take it on saturday.