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Hi 7sagers!

Happy to announce session number 3 of these free tutoring series! We will be covering LR flaw question strategy. It will be Sunday November 1st at 7pm EST.

I have gone through the 7sage CC twice, taken over 90% of the PTs out there, and am currently scoring in the low 170s. My diagnostic was a 138. I've struggled immensely with this test, and I can show you how I overcame these obstacles.

In this session, we'll cover topics on:

-How to approach flaw questions under timed conditions

-How to actively read and engage with flaw questions

-Why anticipating what the correct answer choice could be is helpful, but why you still need to be careful when doing so.

-How you can still get these questions correct even when you don't anticipate what the flaw is.

We will be using questions from the free diagnostic LSAT test provided on the LSAC website. This session will be helpful for students that recently completed the flaw CC, or are in the PT phase of their studies and is struggling with Flaw Questions.

If this session goes well, I'd be open to hosting more free sessions! Please let me know what topics you'd like to discuss at a future session in the poll below. See you there!

A few additional things I want to mention so we can all get the most out of the session:

Please refrain from looking at the correct answer choices when we are going through problems. It is to your benefit to be unaware so you can learn!

Please make sure your microphone is on mute during the session, unless you are the person volunteering to help answer a question.

I will be asking for volunteers throughout the session. If you would like to volunteer, please type it in the chat box.

The session will last around two hours, questions unrelated to the topic at hand should be saved until the end.

If you learned something helpful, all I ask for payment is that you share the knowledge with others that could be struggling. After all, we rise by lifting others up. :smile:

Let me know if ya'll have any questions. Hope to see you there!

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For drill question 12 on page 49. Wouldn't the valid conclusion be that Sophie is unlikely to be a person to know? As it is unlikely that her moon will stay in Virgo and if her moon doesn't stay in Virgo she will not have a cholesterol increase. I'm sure I am wrong but I am just not getting it.

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Tuesday, Oct 27, 2020

LSAT in a hotel

I'm going to be taking my test in NYC at a hotel. Any fellow locals have any suggestions on hotels? I live here so I have no idea about what the best hotel is to take this test :D

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Any tips or tricks for improving RC in the last couple of weeks before the test? I’m averaging about a 168 on PTs, and I feel like RC is holding me back from breaking 170. I typically go -0/-1 on LG, -2/-3 on LR, and anywhere from -4 to -8 on RC. I’m able to finish all 4 passages with only a minute or so to spare. Any advice is appreciated!

Also, I would be thrilled with a 168 on the real test, but would like to be more comfortable with RC in case I get a test with a killer RC section (aka the August Flex RC with the bees and patriotism passages).

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Just wanted to say goodbye to this wonderful community and thank JY and everyone else for helping us thru this process. I started at a 159 diagnostic and after my third try got a 178, which I cannot believe!!

Edited to add some tips:

Honestly can't believe this score and can't quite fathom what that means for me as a reapplicant but just wanted to say that if you are privileged enough to be able to take a month off work and move in with your parents so that they feed you and nurture you and you can just focus on studying and exercising and meditating and can afford to pay $100+ to a great tutor (shout out apollo prep!) then everything is doable!!!

Much love to those juggling work and families out there, this game is unfair!

A few have asked for tips, so here are some:

  • If you can, just take the time off to focus on the test. you need all the energy to work on this! To me this looked like taking 6 weeks off work, using one to travel and unwind, and the other 5 to just focus.
  • My schedule in this last month was: 8/9 get up, 45 min of yoga and meditation, breakfast while reading the news, study (either a full test (Monday, Weds, Friday) or review the PTs I had done), then at 2:30 break for lunch, read until 4pm, then study 4-6, 30 min work out, 7-8 study, 8, dinner and done for the day. I'd read at night and tried to avoid watching TV, I also did yoga before bed. I'd study on Saturdays too but then I'd make sure to go see friends and I'd spend Sundays with my family not studying. No drugs no alcohol for the last 5 weeks.
  • in terms of the actual LSAT prep,
  • -- for LR I had already done 7sage and read the loophole and felt I had a pretty solid background, so I got a tutor (apollo prep, I really recommend them!!) and realized that lol my background wasn't as sturdy. We'd just review questions I got wrong after blind review together and it was very useful.

    -- for LG, I did all miscellaneous games and all hard games, I realized my weak point was facing new games I had not seen before so I just did that over and over, also reviewed games but focused mostly on knowing how to tackle them.

    -- for RC, I read a lot and I tried to have a conversation with the writer as a read.

    Good luck everyone!!

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    Diagraming this stimulus into conditional logic was hard for me. I started with the second sentence:

    Unless= G3= negate, place in sufficient

    /heat to cause volcanic action -----> /renewed surface

    For the third sentence:

    Any= G1= sufficient

    Since it used the idea of "/renewed surface" , I was able to chain it up with the second sentence:

    /heat to cause volcanic action --->/renewed surface ------->heavily pockmarked

    When I got to the last sentence, I got lost. I didn't know how to diagram it. I feel like the last sentence plays a role in the chain from above, but I don't really know what that would look like.

    Would really appreciate some clarification on how to diagram this stimulus. Thanks in advance!

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    I've finished the core curriculum logic games section. I feel determined to finish -2 or -0 on the actual Logic Games section come January. When I did the core curriculum. I would do the section timed, blind review, watch the explanation, and usually when I finished the explanation video I would redo the game from scratch and do somewhere between -1 or -0 for those two games in that problem set.

    Now that I've finished the whole Logic Games section of the course, I want to do 2 games a day, review them, and repeat the game until I miss none of the questions. I don't think this will take long because after I watch the explanation video, I usually don't miss much and finish with time left. But my question is, should I even bother with doing games from Prep Tests 1-35 since they're old? When I got to the MIsc Section of LG in the course, I noticed how different those games were and how I probably wont see them again in January, and would rather perfect the standard: linear, in/out, grouping etc. games. I'm thinking maybe from now till January I can focus on drilling the Newer/Newest Logic Games?? Thoughts? Also, before I found 7sage I used the LSAC prep books and completed like the first 10-15 Prep Tests that were released on my own, but before I did blind review and had all of the wonderful tricks and tips that I learned from 7sage.

    Side note, I did the Logic Games from PT 43 recentlly and went -6. I didn't blind review or time that section, because I was just doing it casually with some Youtube in the background because I was bored.

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    Hi there,

    I took my first LSAT this October and got a 147... I am of course booked to write again but am wondering if it is worth it to cancel my score or just leave it? I am worried that it looks bad but I also do not want to lead my application with that score. I do think that I can do a lot better as I have already seen an 8+ increase in my pt's (I also am aware most people advise not to however, while searching the forum this seemed to be the advice for the regular LSAT when you could not do score preview and I didn't see any posts about scores this low). I am also applying to Canadian schools and I am aware that 147 is not a competitive score by any means. Any input is welcome!

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    I never thought I would get to write this post: After over a year of studying with 60+ practice tests taken, I can finally say I am done with the LSAT. I Climbed to 170!

    Thank you so much to 7sage for helping me break through to this level! I'm absolutely going to write more about my study patterns, how I adapted to score drops and test-day anxiety, COVID, employment, and more, but first ------ I'm going to go celebrate at 9 AM 😝

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    I got a 149 and I’m so sad. Any advice? I am retaking the exam in January. Is there hope for someone like me with a killer GPA and a teaching background to go to a place like Harvard?

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    I interpreted "D" as saying that new fields had been found since "oil that is considered unextractable is now considered extractible." For "D" to be correct, I thought we had to make the assumption that the shift between unextractable to extractible was referencing the oil fields that have already been found. I would really appreciate some clarification on why "D" is correct. Thanks in advance!

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    Hey all - I just got my October flex score and am feeling pretty discouraged. I scored a 157 and my best PTs were in the mid-160s (scores I would be very content with). It's frustrating because after the exam I felt really confident and felt like I had a great test day and the exam was easier, but my score ended up not reflecting that. I've been studying 20-30 hours a week for 9 months and am really burnt out / tired of studying for this exam. I want to apply this cycle and feel kind of meh about going to a mid-range law school. My GPA is also just kind of alright (3.6 from Berkeley) and my soft factors are strong (Teach for America, good letters of rec, a PS I feel confident about). Does anyone have any thoughts/advice on how to navigate? I'm super satisfied going to a not-top 20 school but a little above that like a GW, Notre Dame, or Boston College, but now I feel like I don't even have much of a shot at those. Thoughts??? Thanks everyone.

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    Just wanted to say thank you to JY and the 7sage crew for getting me to this score. Honestly, one of the best LSAT study services ever, JY's voice is truly iconic. All the best to everyone else, hope you all achieve you dreams! As for me, no for LSAT forever unless someone is willing to hire me as a tutor lol

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    went from July LSAT 156--> 165 Oct Lsat all because of 7 sage. I appreciate this course and this discussion forum so much. Time to start applying!

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    sch.

    c=.. fail to consider the human costs that consumers pay in nationalized insurance

    p- high tech medicine is restricted

    p2- transplants are rationed

    p3- people are denied treatments they want and need

    laf.

    p- private insurance denies access to health care to poor people

    p2- nationalized insurance have equal access for rich and poor

    p3- people's right to treatment is not violated

    the conclusion I infer from Dr.Laf is that obviously he's a proponent for nationalized insurance

    I thought he was providing counter-example against the private insurance so I picked (C)

    Maybe I don't really have a clear understanding of what counterexamples are, aren't the premises that Dr.Laf list for his case counterexamples since it counterargues that nationalized healthcare is better than private healthcare??

    My suspicion of why C is wrong is that Dr.Laf didn't directly engage with Dr.Sch's premises.

    In my mind, he didn't provide any example that would contradict the examples that Dr.Sch provided. (e.g. treatments are not rationed and here's a statistical data that shows that they are not rationed). Is this why they are not counterexamples?

    I'm also not understanding how he's construing the word access in limited way. Is it because Dr.Sch's sees limited access in nationalized insurance but doesn't see or acknowledge the same issue in private healthcare??

    #help

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    I really struggled to correctly diagram the stimulus, specifically the second premise. The second premise tells us that "only a small portion of CA can be considered MR." I was looking at PowerScore's explanation and they diagramed this premise as:

    CA -----some-----MR

    When I read "small" it didn't register that it implied a "some" relationship between these two ideas. I guess I can see how "small" can imply some, since "small" can imply that at least 1% of contemporary advertisements can be considered MR. However, this was not instinctive for me. I think after going through all the CC lessons, I tend to focus on a more mechanical approach. I look for words key words like "some"/"most"/"few" to determine the presence of an existential or universal relationship.

    Any tips on how to not get so stuck on mechanical approach for these types of scenarios?

    Honestly, I might just be overthinking this:/

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    Hi! I just received my score back and got a 159. I was averaging 160 on my PTs with my highest being a 164. I’m pretty bummed because I really want to begin next fall. I was on the phone with ASU law earlier since that’s where I wanna go, and they were telling me that I can submit my app and then check the box that says to not review it until I send in my January scores in. People who’ve done this before: has it worked for you? Should I do this, wait for January to even send in the entire application, or apply right now? 3.7 gpa btw.

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    Thursday, Oct 22, 2020

    Are scores out?

    Did anybody else get an email from LSAC that the score preview for their october lsat is available, but there is no score posted on the website? So confused right now

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    Hi 7sagers!

    Due to popular demand, I'm hosting another free tutoring session! This time on Reading Comprehension. It will be this Saturday 10/24 at 7pm EDT. If you're interested, please comment below!

    I have gone through the CC twice, taken over 90% of the PTs out there, and am currently scoring in the low 170s. My diagnostic was a 138. I've struggled immensely with this test, and I can show you how I overcame these obstacles.

    In this session, we'll cover topics on:

  • How to read a passage
  • How RC is different from LR
  • Why improving RC seems hard, but is very achievable.
  • (This session is more focused on students who are struggling with understanding the passages. We will have another session discussing the questions another time)
  • We will be using passages from the free diagnostic LSAT test provided on the LSAC website. This session will be helpful for students that recently completed the RC core curriculum, or are in the PT phase of their studies and is struggling with RC.

    If this session goes well, I'd be open to hosting more free sessions! Please let me know what topics you'd like to discuss at a future session in the poll below. See you there!

    A few things I want to mention so we can all get the most out of this session:

    Please refrain from looking at the correct answer choices when we are going through problems. It is to your benefit to be unaware so you can learn!

    Please make sure your microphone is on mute during the session, unless you are the person volunteering to help answer a question.

    I will be asking for volunteers throughout the session. If you would like to volunteer, please type it in the chat box.

    The session will last around two hours.

    If you learned something helpful, all I ask for payment is that you share the knowledge with others that could be struggling. After all, we rise by lifting others up. :smile:

    Let me know if ya'll have any questions. Hope to see you there!

    Chris Nguyen is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.

    Topic: Free Tutoring: Reading Comprehension

    Time: Oct 24, 2020 07:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)

    Join Zoom Meeting

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    I was so ready to have my score today but I just did the writing this past week (I know, dumb) and it seems like they have a backlog for approving writing samples and it could be a long time till I have the score! Does anyone have any info or idea how long it might be? My writing status says results pending. To make things worse I feel like I might've slipped up and not shown both sides of my scratch paper in the room scan! Am I doomed to do the writing over again? Is it gonna be weeks without my score?! I am probably needlessly stressed but I was so hoping to have my score today!!!

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    Hey everyone! I am looking for some awesome strategies on improving timing for LG. I noticed that most of the time, I can do LG to complete perfection in blind review or when I practice untimed (bad habit, I know). But during timed conditions, I ALWAYS run out of time from spending too much time up front on the first game. The only thing that has made somewhat of a difference thus far is doing all of the "if" questions first and then going back and doing the other questions that don't present new info. So if anyone has any time-saving tips I would be forever grateful!!!

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