Hello all,

I should make it clear that I am not looking to get a perfect score in the RC section but rather maximize efficiency. In LG, by skipping the substitution and equivalence questions and coming back if I had time I was able to boost my average a few points. In LR, I skip any PF questions after question #10 and come back if I have time. This has also boosted my average for LR. I was wondering if i can employ a similar strategy for RC. I find that the rated difficulty of the passage really has no bearing on my score for that passage. Some 2 star passages I bomb because I struggle to understand the content. Some 5 star passages I ace because I understand the content. My average score for an RC section is -10 and with that I am still scoring in the 160's. Also it is important to note my BR for RC sections is ALWAYS -1 or -2. I can provide more context if needed, any response is appreciated!

A question like this was posted before but it is kinda dated. So basically should I first do PT 36 then do like 40 then do most of my PT from 50-70 and leave couple of 80s before 2 weeks or something from my exam date?

Hi 7sage community.

Question - do I do a full practice test under timed conditions with BR or just practice timed sections individually with BR before Monday? Or forego timed practice until after Monday and hit it hard for the fall date?

A brief background on where I am at:

I sat for March test after beginning studies with Kaplan books in January. Bombed the LG section (went at least -17) but got a 155, which was my PT average going into the test. I did 6 or 7 full (5 section and writing) practice tests leading up to March so I am familiar with the format, the "sprint", resetting my watch to the 12 between sections, bubbling in to not leave points on the table if time is low, and some of those little tricks.

Between March and June I had to catch up at work with projects I had left on the backburner from the beginning of the year (I work around 50 hours a week). I began the 7sage CC in earnest at the beginning of June. I haven't done it all, but I've been through every subsection for at least some of it. I spent the bulk of my time firming up my foundational and advanced logic skills (immensely helpful).

I'm sitting on Monday and haven't done a PT since March. Should I practice the whole thing or just practice each section, timed with BR? I am taking the rest of the week off and will let my brain rest Saturday and Sunday.

Also worried about what a low PT score will do to confidence heading into the test on Monday.......................... and even considering skipping timed practice for now.

I am fully committed to a LOT of PT and BR between Monday and the September or October test. Definitely doing one of those which will be my final attempt.

Lastly, I am accepted for fall 2020 at my top choice (local public school) so I am just trying to raise my score for financial aid purposes. This year's incoming 1L class had a median score of 157.

THANK YOU!

Kat

Seems likely my test center will be closed for this storm on the Gulf Coast, but I haven’t heard anything yet. How much advance is typically given for a test center closing and how would I be contacted? Email?

Fines levied against those responsible for certain environmentally damaging accidents are now so high that it costs a company responsible for such an accident more to pay the fine than it would have cost to adopt measures that would have prevented the accident. Therefore, since businesses value their profits, those that might have such accidents will now install adequate environmental safeguards.

Which one of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument?

A) Businesses generally greatly underestimate the risk of future accidents.

B ) Businesses are as concerned with long-term as they are with short-term strategies for maximizing profits.

C) Businesses generally do the environmentally “right” thing only if doing so makes good business sense.

D) Businesses treat fines that are levied against them as an ordinary business expense.

E) Businesses are learning to exploit the public’s environmental awareness in promoting themselves.

I am not 100% certain in understanding why A is correct and why D is incorrect.

Thank you.

On the last few PT's i've taken, all in the high 70s, i've noticed that i'm getting more of the harder questions right and some pretty easy (sometimes completely obvious) questions wrong. Just goes to show that we can't take the easier questions for granted.

I'd figure this would be something to laugh about!

I know July takers will have the unique option to cancel their score and retake the test free of charge. What I want to know is, what if I want to retake but don't want to cancel my score? Does that mean I have to cough up another 200 bucks to LSAC?

This game has virtually no rules to solve MPT questions.

During PT, I spent 15 minutes for the first 3 games, but I couldn’t finish game 4 in 20 minutes. I technically guess the last 4 answers because there are infinite possibilities.

I must did something terribly wrong. Please help.

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Can someone provide me with an example of what "distorts an argument against X, and then attacks this distorted argument" would look like?

PT C2, Section #3, Question #6 Answer Choice D

I'm getting better at diagramming LR questions (when need be), but I'm very slow at it. Any tips for getting faster?

Hi.

I needed to improve logical reasoning skills so I took a simple argument and tried if I can come up with imaginary correct answers for different question types on my own. What do you guys think? Do you think I did any of them incorrectly?

Argument: You can't get a tattoo. Your aunt Barbara got a tattoo, and she is in jail.

Flaw: Assumes that I will have the same consequence as aunt Barbara if i get a tattoo like her.

Weaken: Some people who has a tattoo did not end up in jail

Strengthen: Most people who got a tattoo ended up in jail

Sufficient Assumption: A new legislation states that "anyone who gets a tattoo ends up in jail."

Necessary Assumption: There are at least some people besides aunt Barbara who got a tattoo and now in jail.

Parallel flaw: Last night, I saw a video of a black cat that was taught to use a toilet, our kitty is also black, so she could be taught to use a toilet.

Despite having gone through the core curriculum and JY's explanation videos multiple times, where he frequently skips around to local questions with premises before tackling global ones, I still approach logic games questions in order unless I'm really stuck. I've found in the past that LG questions often build on inferences from previous questions, something you might miss if you skip around.

Anyone have a particularly firm opinion on either approach? Would love to hear your thoughts!

Does anyone understand why the answer to question 20 is A. I do not see how the statement that "many local businesses depend on the regions natural beauty" is direct evidence for another statement aka is direct evidence for the statement that "the heavy industrial activity of coal mining would force most of them to close".

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I understand that necessary condition has to be 100% true while sufficient is more of a "good enough" explanation for if something else is true. But when I look at examples I am confused on determining which is the sufficient and which is the necessary in "only if", "is" and "any" situations. (I have watched the videos like 3x already and still it makes no sense)

For instance, Earth is the only home we've ever known. What it says in the examples is Earth is the necessary but only home is the sufficient. I don't understand how this is the case? Does anyone have an easier way of explaining it?

Hi guys, I am still having some trouble with grouping games. I am pretty good at inferences (diminishing number of worlds and not both/or) and can complete most grouping games but for some I am literally stumped and cannot make it past the acceptable situation questions. For example, ive had trouble with: June 1993 Game 4; june 1992 game 2; Decembr 1991 game 4.

Also I had a lot of trouble October 1991 game 4 (I believe this is in/out sequencing).

Is it possible im having trouble with these games because they are fairly old? Any tips on how to improve on these other than fool proofing? I find for these tough games fool proofing will work but when I run into another hard grouping game I still cant do it.

Any insight is much appreciated!

#help

Hey everyone,

I really need a sanity check because I feel like I'm getting in my own head. So I started studying about a month ago and was initially planning on taking the October LSAT because learning about the July Freebie. I started off with a 155 diagnostic with -8 and -11 on the two LR sections.

I then went through the LSAT Trainer (minus LG because 7sage's LG explanations felt more intuitive) and the CC and have recently started taking timed full PTs. Now this might be a very small sample, but in the 6 PTs after one month of studying I am getting an average of 164 with scores ranging from 162 to 168. (and BRs ranging from 171 to 174 if that matters) The score jump from my 155 diagnostic is due to a pretty big increase in LG as one might expect, but also because I got -6 to -3 in LR sections in all 6 PTs.

Now this is where I need a sanity check. When going through LR sections now, I don't feel like I'm doing things differently from when I took my diagnostic aside from maybe a better understanding of what the question stems are asking. Since doing well on the first PT after going through the CC, when doing LR sections in full PTs I just try to go as smoothly as I can while telling myself to trust my instincts and it seems like its working out. So my question is, did anyone else experience this random jump in LR after the LSAT Trainer/CC? Is it even possible that I was lucky 6 PTs in a row?....

Can someone explain why is B right and C wrong for this argument part question? Tough question.

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Im currently doing the LG bundle and im at PT8, right now most of the games are taking more than the target time and i dont get all the answers right for the most of them.. either i miss a rule, wrong gameboard and so on. Im kinda discouraged, will it eventually click.

PS: I am full proofing using Pacifico's method and my 2nd 3rd tries are way way better.

Since we can only view one question at a time for all sections, it now seems much less convenient to implement the comparative passage method in which you answer all the questions pertaining to Passage A first then proceed to reading Passage B.

For those of you used to doing this method on paper exams, what is your transition strategy?

So going back to prep 25 and up, I see a lot of games are more difficult and have more than 3 types of elements to account when solving these games. But more recent tests from 2007 and onward, games are not as hard as the ones i mentioned before. has it gotten easier in recent years or am i just not smart enough for the older exams and may see similar to older games in my upcoming lsat exam?

hi guys! so i'm a rising senior at boston university (gpa: 3.33) and i had done some review on here since last summer, but i officially started studying properly the beginning of this week to sit the september test. i have the ultimate+ and i'm trying to get through the core curriculum so i can get as much practice and PTs as i can to be ready by then. i know JY and all of you say that take the lsat when you're ready and not plan around an lsat date, but i have 4 months of absolutely nothing to do but to study so i was hoping i'd be ready by september. i'm thinking of doing 25 hours a week would be good (around 5 hours a day, 6 times per week), and i'm hoping to be done with the CC by the end of june (the CC is extremely long so i have no idea how long it would take me to finish and it's really worrying me), and i'd have around 2.5 months to do PTs. do you guys think that would be doable? i did extremely bad on the diagnostic (137) so i am extremely discouraged, but i am very motivated. i want to get to 170 at some point. i know some of you are gonna say that it's a reach and that i can't improve by that much, but i was not at the best mental state when i took the diagnostic so i don't think it's what i would have scored at my best potential. what way do you guys suggest i study or split my time to reach my goal? september lsat is non-negotiable because i'm applying in the fall and i'm doing ED to northwestern. i reckon that 4 months of only LSAT studying should suffice, no? i don't work or anything this summer. any advice or encouragement would be greatly appreciated! i'm really anxious about the whole thing, like i'm getting a daily anxiety attack thinking about studying and finishing on time reaching my goal. i know this is extremely lengthy so i apologize, i just needed to rant and get this off my chest, and if you made it this far into the post i thank you and any words of wisdom from you would go a long way. thanks guys!

I’ve only taken one PT so far outside of my diagnostic. On LG I got -1 on BR and the one I missed I straight up rushed. I really enjoy LG mainly because my confidence level in the answers are so high since there isn’t an infinite way to create the right answer unlike LR.

On my two LR sections I got -15 blind review which is straight up disheartening. What is worse is that 9 out of the 15 wrong we’re missed in BOTH original PT and BR! So I picked two different answers and they were both wrong! Two stabs and two misses.

This tells me that my fundamental understanding is lacking. Out of the 6 NA types I got 1 right and 4 were wrong twice so at least I know I need to drill NA and watch the NA CC again. The other 5 double misses were all different question types.

I’ve watched the LR CC but have only done a handful of the drills. Obviously NA types I need to review and drill but what do I do about the other double misses? Double misses to me screams not truly understanding and since there were 6 different question types in the double wrongs I am getting very discouraged that my fundamentals are completely lacking.

Are double misses common?

How much time do you spend in BR for a LR section? I’ll have to time my LR BR next time but if I had to guess one section was maybe 30 minutes. Do you take the time to write out the why for reach AC in terms of wrong or right? Or do you look at it and cross through like you would a normal timed PT?

I want to maximize my study time. Any guidance or experience with double wrong is much appreciated.

Let me first say that I was granted 50% extra time for the LSAT so I'm still getting used to the difference. My last test was a 165 with 23/26 LR, 23/25 LR, 16/23 LG, 21/27 RC. I feel really confident about LR for the most part but 3 of the questions I missed were strengthening questions so I'll definitely drill those. I actually misread one of the logic games that was stacked traits and totally bombed it with 2/7 for that game but I'll also drill those to make sure I don't make that mistake again and if I would've understood the game I'm fairly confident I would've gone 20-21/23 in that LG section. HOWEVER, the RC is screwing me up big time. It is SO difficult for me to get any type of improvement in RC. I am so stuck and not sure where to go even with accommodations I am absolutely unsure how to approach RC passages sometimes. Should I just drill them like any other game? How about Reviewing the RC? I see tangible improvement in everything but RC I feel like.

Edit: I also should note that its mainly Humanities and Social Sciences passages that I feel especially challenging.

Hi All-

When negating answer choice C -> is this interpretation correct? “One eminent scientist trained by J.J. Thomson was not a creative researcher before coming to study with him. OR -> More than one eminent scientist trained by J.J. Thomson was not a creative researcher before coming to study with him.” The “at-least” in answer choice C is throwing me off. Thank you in advance!

Just to clarify, when O is playing tennis by itself, is it both the highest and lowest ranking player? Thanks!