Hi everyone,

Is it possible to compile all the questions you've missed on all past PTs? I thought I could do this using the flagging function, but don't see an easy way to toggle between flagging on individuals PTs and selecting questions to re-try using the Question Bank. Basically, I want to print out and re-test all the questions I've missed in one problem set.

Best and thanks in advance,

Maria

Why is it recommended to fool proof PT 1-35? Thank you!

Hi 7Sagers,

I am currently drilling RC as it's my weakest section. Although I [feel] it's improving slightly and slowly, I am not sure if it's true or just my feeling since it's not shown in my scores yet.. I am wondering how long it took you to improve your RC (e.g. reduce the wrong ones by about half)? Either in terms of hours or number of RC sections would be a good measure that's helpful for me.

Also, what strategies or changes of your habits made that difference?

I felt frustrated when I still got -9 after two weeks of drilling (about 8 passages per day).. And not sure if there's something wrong with my strategy. I felt I spent too much time on each questions and always had about 4 questions unanswered when time's up. But not sure I I could overcome this, because if I rush through the passages, I will get more wrong answers.. When I do BR (only my circled and unanswered ones), I got -6 to -3. At this stage, should I focus on time management or analyzing the passage when I drill?

Thanks very much!

lty

Hey guys,

I speak primarily to those who have done foolproofing and put all their heart into improving LG for a long time but still struggle with the games.

I have foolproofed the games again and again for the last twelve months but whenever I face a fresh game section, I struggle very much with registering new rules into my head and pushing out inferences.

I have come to accept LG as my main weak point, contrary to the popular opinion that LG is the easiest section to improve.

Although I have been down in the lonely dumps on numerous occasions, I have not given up improving LG. The progress has been painfully slow, but practicing games is better than not doing games.

That is my LG philosophy and I no longer beat myself up too much for losing so many precious points on this section.

If you are in the same boat as me, you are the unicorn I've been searching for. Let us not be disheartened but continue doing what we can to minimize the damage in LG.

And I'm beginning to think that it is possible to score well on this exam without having the mastery on the logic games that has been so elusive to me. It is not the end of the world to suck at LG. My realistic goal is to suck less each day.

I believe in us. Let us keep at it!

Just wanted to see the general consensus on whether you time each game or the section as a whole? I've been doing really well on the LGs most of the time, but a couple of times, I've been pretty jammed at the end and feel like I took much time earlier. Any strategies for being quicker too?

Thanks! Good luck to everyone!

Is there an explanation video for this question?

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Never thought I'd still be struggling with LG but here I am with one month left and I still average -5 on LG. I know the one month left posts are common and probably repetitive but I feel like i'm so close yet so far away. My average is only 5 points below my target score and I know going -1 or -0 on LG would be enough to get me comfortably into the high 160s. Am I wasting my time redoing games and trying to foolproof them? I've foolproofed before and saw some improvement but whenever I'm doing the timed test I typically bomb 1 game. As soon as I realize I missed something or and having difficulty with a game my brain just shuts off and I panic. This doesn't happen with any other section. Speed is also still a problem. If I do easy games in under 5 mins I tend to miss a questions due to overconfidence.

I created this thread so that those taking the test in Asia, Australia and New Zealand can discuss the test! (Sorry, I should have made this before the test in Europe, Middle East, and Africa :sweat:)

Test Dates:

Score Release: Wednesday, October 31, 2018

Rules:

✅ Asking questions like “Was the LG with "flowers" experimental?” is okay.

❌ Don't mention specifics like "the 3rd LG was sequencing."

Please mention the region you took the test in (“I took it in Asia”).

Does someone know where to find September 2018 LSAT ?

As of now I am only on section Logical Reasoning section ( Flaw-Descriptive Weakening Questions). Three sections away from just starting the logical games section and my test date is on Nov 17. I studied using the LSAT Trainer for 3 months before but bought the full 7sage study package about 3 months ago and I feel like I should just end studying logical reasoning and start logical games because I’m running out of time and haven’t had much time to do practice test. Any advice because at this rate maybe if I study like crazy I’ll finish the program with maybe one practice test done before me test date. The problem was I lost motivation for about 2 weeks and never thought about how that would throw off my study schedule.

Hi everyone,

I'm having trouble with question 9. How can the answer "B?"

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Hi all,

When should we look at the context of a stimulus when considering an answer choice. After CC, I was under the impression that we should always disregard context; however, a lot of correct answer choices take context into account. For example in PT 72 S2 Q4, the correct answer is A, and the subject matter of A falls within the context, so I immediately crossed that answer out.

Is there a particular rule to follow in regards to context and when to disregard?

Thanks in advance!

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Hi,

I am about 60% complete with the 7sage core curriculum. I signed up for the Ultimate+ option and have dozens of PTs available. However, I wanted some insights on the number of PTs I should be doing per week once I complete the curriculum? I will most likely be completed by first to second week of November. I will be sitting for the January LSAT. Thanks for your insights!

Hi guys, so I'm writing the November Lsat and am just trying to really improve on my games by then. My average score over the last month is about 156, and I'd like to score anywhere from 158-161 (I've scored in this range on occurrence twice so it is not out of the realm of possibility). Good thing is i know my weak spots and how to get to there and its games, of course. On average i miss about 8 questions per section, getting as many as 12-13 wrong. Most Practice Tests i don't make it to the last game just because of time.

Any tips on how to get consistently to -3 or -4 by November? If i could get into this range, heck even 5 wrong I have no doubt i'll get my desired score. I'd like to start Fool Proofing but i really don't have time to do PT 1-35 as others have suggested. I'm in school full time at the moment and work part-time on the side. Are there maybe 10-12 sections you guys personally think i ought to master that will help me with my goal? Also, should i hold off on doing more practice tests until i get Games down? Any other advice would be appreciated too. Thanks in advance!

I’ve been through the CC, and I’ve gone back and repeated basic and advanced logic. I’m still losing a massive amount of points because I’m having trouble translating English to logical statements. What did you guys do to master this?

Hey all,

I am working through the LG portion of the CC while fool-proofing. This by far has been the best way to learn and master LG. Its only been a week and I feel like I'm learning so much.

I have a question for those who have finished fool-proofing.

I'm spending about 4 hours a day purely focused on LG and fool-proofing 5-6 days a week. I honestly do not see it taking longer than a month at this rate, but please let me know if I am wrong.

Cheers and thanks in advance :)

Hi everyone,

I’m curious to see how everyone’s progress went. I’ve been studying consistently for a little over a month now (started looking at the LR section in July and tried to find the best techniques and learning strategies for me), and I’m doing practice questions in LR specifically, and I’m usually getting about 50% of them correct. Should I be really concerned? How did everyone else improve on the LR section? I think that I’ll need to move my test date to January since I’m not even through the RC or Games curriculums yet. Thoughts? Any comments are appreciated!

I know it's a bad idea to argue with LSAT answers, but I find it's the best way to improve - I want to really understand exactly why my thinking is wrong. I can't seem to find out an adiqute explination for why D is wrong for this question, would love some input, I have scoured the forums but cant seem to find anyone discussing this line of attack. Thanks in advance if you take the time to look this up!

The arguement is:

chem fert caused farmers to switch from alfalfa

Alfalfa caused good soil.

C: We must Abandon chem fert in order to get good soil back.

necessicary assumption?

Evaluating this argument, it seems like the obvious consideration is that farmers could use both chems while renewing the soil. Why would we need to abandon chems? The answer needs to say that. And that sounds like what E is saying.

But when you consider this further, theres litterally nothing in the argument that says the only way to improve soil is GM method. it's easy to imagine another way to renew soil, maybe soil rotation or something. Maybe they could grow soybeans, which cause very little soil degradation when compared to other cash crops, like corn, which doesnt stand up to soybeans in both financial benefits and environmental considerations. The point is that there's really no reason to think GM is necessicary to improving soil health at all. When we consider the many potential, possibly infinite ways to improve soil health, having a single one be incomparable with chems seems to do little to improve are argument at all.

another assumption which would make the conclusion follow would be if soil improvement cannot happen as long as these chems are present in the soil. the very presence of these chemicals in the soil insures the soil cannot improve. A perfect answer could be.

"no matter what methods the farmers persue, their can be no soil improvement as long as chemical fert in question are present in the soil"

Theres no answer that says this, but D says

"chemical fert have a destructive effect on soil".

destructive is a strong word, and this holds in every case- regardless of what you do to improve the soil health, as long as their is chemicals in the soil, these chems will have a destructive effect which could conceivably limit improvement.

E is right and D is wrong. What am I failing to consider here? Thanks again if you took the time to address my question!

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I would like to apply to school in the fall and I'm taking the november test. I do feel like I would like to have a back up test because I believe I might not have given myself enough time to fully prepare for this test (with a full time job), but still studying hard daily. I can't take the January test because i will be out of the country. #help I know generally schools will hold applications for pending test scores, but how late is too late to apply to school? I already started drafting my essay and plan to have everything prepared to apply in dec/jan, however have a strong feeling i will want to take the test again, is the march test too late?

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Translated:

Poet --> Purpose PE (s) Ambig. Words

Thus.

Poetry Reader --> not the case [enjoyment depends on precise understanding of what poet means]

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Translated:

If writer that uses words ambiguously --> not the case [have any reader whose enjoyment depends on precise understanding of what the writer means]

My issue is rooted in what appears to be a correct answer choice based on the question's invalid argument form:

A --> B (s) C

A (s) C

In short, in implying that poet's use ambiguous words - is that not an invalid assumption? The purpose of all poets is personal expression & if you are a writer whose purpose is personal expression then you sometimes use words ambiguously. This statement does not necessarily mean that all poets use words ambiguously. It may be the case. It may not be. But I think answer choice C would only make sense if the stimulus was structured like: The purpose of all poets is personal expression & if you are a writer whose purpose is personal expression then you always use words ambiguously.

Does anyone else catch my train of thought?

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Although already noted that MSS Qs are similar or can even be mistaken as Main Point Qs, I am not fully understanding on my own (without J.Y. pointing it out) what wording in the question stem makes an MSS Q. just that, an MSS Q.

For instance, unless the Q. stem directly states or contains "....is most strongly supported by...." I really cannot tell what makes an MSS Q. an MSS Q.

#help

Is there anyone out there who was able to defeat these Author Inference questions? These consistently make up about half of my missed RC questions and I have no idea how to approach them and why they're so hard for me. #help

I have hard time understanding the answer choice C;

It is a claim...cited by the argument as evidence of its truth...

What does "its" refer to?

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I'm preparing for the November test, which will be my second attempt. Does anyone have any good study strategies that work for them in preparing to take the test again?

Hi y'all. So, I registered to take the Nov test, but with school and other stuff, I really have had no time to prepare. First, when I registered, I thought I would be able to designate time for studying, but unfortunately, that was not the case. So, should I still take the test with no preparation after all I paid for it. Do law schools consider the average, or do they receive all the scores I get in the past? I am very worried. Please help, thank you!!