I'm having a really difficult time eliminating answer choice E) in this one. I I chose this during timed, switched to the credited response C) during BR. C) is stated in an unambiguous fashion in paragraph 4. I understand why the author would agree with this but why is E) wrong? I've read multiple explanations online yet I'm still stuck.

Since the passage states that "mirrors are an exception to the fairly reliable equation between our perceptions and their associated mental constructs," aren't reflections in mirrors to be mental constructs interfering with an accurate understanding of how primary perceptions function? Is it wrong because of the word primary? Mental constructs are what encourage us to focus on imagined, false images, which hampers our understanding of real perceptions. That's my understanding...

Please help!

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Hello! I just complete the March LSAT and honestly miss practicing LG. I figured since I continue to practice them daily that I would offer private tutoring for anyone struggling with foundational LG skills. I consistently finish this section with -0 and would like to help others get to that point as well!

I wouldn't charge anything for 7sagers, but if anyone knows any websites that I could post about this tutoring service and actually get paid that would be great!

Hello evereyone!

I just took the International LSAT and was wondering if anyone who has taken it wanted to sahre some info.

I took it Seoul on the 31st.

I had RC-LR-LG-LR-RC

I dont recall so well what passages were in the first RC but its compartive passages were about democracy and one of the passages had South Korea and Chile as example countries...

The other one had passages like...

dogs and human cues...(edited)

Native American Indian art and the artist Howe

a book about Notorious Woman( legal cases concerning a woman who found out her biological father rich and claimed her right for the inheritance)

compartive passages about monopoly and European Union competition law....

Nothing particular comes to my mind with regard to LRs...

For LG,

one of the games was about a concert with the piano and violin as one of instruments 6people had to play

The other one I remember is about accountants(?) who come to work to print or to verify....

I would appreciate it if someone could tell me which RC was the dummy...

Thanks!

"Jack must be diligent and smart because without these traits he is doomed to fail"

Meaning: If Jack is not diligent or smart then it guarantees he will fail.

As this is a OR statement Jack can be the following below to trigger him Failing

Meaning: If Jack doesn't fail then he must be both Diligent and Smart.

I have been trying to make up more difficult sentences to diagram into lawgic to help my understanding but have been a bit confused with this. Would really appreciate it if someone can correct me if I have messed up in anyway thank you so much in advance!

This one is making my head hurt. Can someone help explain?

Hi All,

I know this question has been asked numerous times, but with only a bit of time left before the June exam, I wanted to ask a question about the older LR questions with specific examples. I've started using the LR sections in the 20s because they're still relatively fresh (might have seen one or two questions but not all per section), but my scores have been declining and in my BR I get a little frustrated with the questions themselves. While at the end of the day, I accept the answers for what they are, my biggest gripe is that they just feel vague in a manner that doesn't fly in the newer exams? I bring this question up because 1) if the consensus is that these questions are good to practice in the PT stage then I'll keep doing them or 2) if these questions are considered a bit dated, then I'll probably use the rest of my time on solely the newer PTs (60+).

Here are a few examples of what I might mean:

28.1.7

The answer here just felt really poorly written?

28.3.15

I understand that "enjoy" here could be understood as "made happy" but again, still doesn't feel as precise to me.

28.3.17

While it's the best answer given, it just feels weird that you're allowed to assume that working for ten years means you don't have anything left to gain from training. It seems like a fair enough assumption, but one I feel would be punished in the newer exams?

What is the trigger to use a chart versus the standard grouping construct?

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I am retaking this PT and I really struggled with this passage. In particular, I have trouble understanding the difference between studies being debunked vs. studies giving two opposing facts.

I have come to understand that two ideas being opposite of one another does not lend credence to one theory at the dispense of another. This is reasoning was distilled in me by certain flaw questions that do precisely this. In this passage, we are told that person #1 states there are only 13 plants. Person #2 states there are hundreds of these plants (or only 13). Now, what else is there in this passage that would make the reader assume that #2 person is right, #1 is wrong and not the other way around? The author picking one side over the other is where I disagree incredibly.

The passage is difficult if one doesn't understand that the author thinks the dodo theory is BS. If one doesn't understand this, then they come out of this passage with the wrong idea that there are two opposing views and one shouldn't commit a flaw and pick one to be more right than another. This is exactly the way I was thinking. Questions #22, 24, 26 and 27 all rely on the subtle tone/view the author has---dodo theory is not the cause of the nonexistent phenomena.

Maybe LSAC got around this flawed territory by describing the author committing the flaw, then simply asking us questions about what the author thinks rather then what actually is the case.

My question is when are we logically right to choose one fact over another given the small amount of information in the passage? Yes, the author might have chosen a side, but is it right to throw logic out the window and go along with what the author thinks? Is it even possible that that an author can commit a flaw in an RC passage?

Thank you for reading.

Edit: I can see now where the author includes "the foremost expert on the plant ecology of Mauritius." So, the author's reason would be credibility I suppose. While it does help a bit when picking between two, it surly doesn't support the notion of the idea now being a "fact" as the author concludes.

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Hi 7sagers, I am finishing up my master program and April is the exam season in England... I have 4 final essays and 2 final exams which all count 100 percent of the grade on each class. (Yes it is ridiculous) They are all due/happening in April! However, I registered the June 22rd LSAT and wondering if you have any strategies time management? Should I only focus on school work and give up this whole month on LSAT preps and work on the preps in May and June? Or should I do half and half which might be hard for me to switch modes... Any suggestions will be appreciated! Thanks!

Are these two sentences mean the same thing?

Some people do not enjoy the movie.

Not all people enjoy the movie.

I wonder if "not all" and "some not" are interchangeable.

Thank you!

Another user posted this and appears that I had exact same test (even with accommodations). Second LSAT - here are my feelings:

LG: :-D est 20/23 correct

LR1: :-( est 10/25 correct

LR2: :-D est 18-20/25 correct

RC: :-| est 20-24/27 correct

LR3: :-D est 18-20/25 correct

LG had shrines, oranges, melons, pears, tangerines; north store and south stores; lectures; Garcia & co.

Other user's notes:

I had LG-LR(25)-LR(26)-RC-LR(25).

LG had game on Quandryville and Pleasantville.

RC had Argentinian author, hominids, and comparative law on women's labor.

For LR:

First Q of my first LR (25) section was on restaurants long term versus new patrons and the menu.

For the 26 LR, first Q was on blood transfusions and hepatitis. There were also two sets of the one stimulus, two Q's.

For my last LR (25) the first Q was on the mayor's comment on wild, non domesticated animals and dogs. There was also a question about tutoring students and spelling ability for academic ability towards the end.

Since the LSAC says we have the option to cancel our scores after we see it, and also to retake it at a later date free of charge, I'm definitely leaning towards taking the July LSAT. However, I was wondering if those rules applied for those who get paper instead of digital on the actual exam day. The website doesn't differentiate at any point, but I was just curious if anyone knew for sure.

Hi! I had a complete disaster in January lol I was registered and missed the test by 2 mins because I was late. Literally as soon as I walked up to the proctors they had just put pencils down. My life. Anyway, I'm not taking any chances for March, so I want to make sure I have everything planned. I checked my ticket and it says "Main Foyer" is where we report for the exam. Does anyone else know who's signed up there, or who has taken the test there previously, if that's the building where the gym is/the main classrooms?

Thank you!

Hi everyone,

I am Leon, a new 7 Sager. Hope everyone did or will do well on the March LSAT!

As the March LSAT just ended here (in Taiwan), I knew I was not fully prepared so will go for a retake. I have some concerns about which 7 sage package I should choose. I am currently around 155-160 and aims for high 160s (yeah a low 170s will be great but I am trying to not give myself too much stress). As my time is ticking and my budget was somewhat limited (I worked full-time while studying LSAT). So I am considering between the basic package and the premium one.

My concern was to what extent the core curriculum was different between these two packages? (LR part only)

When I used the 7 sage schedule planner, the two schedule showed different courses corresponding to my selected package. I thought the starter also cover all the courses and the differences were more about other parts like question crack tips. (My strongest part has been LG (-2 to -4). As to RC, the result of my whole-day internet research suggested that RC was not what most people recommend when they choose 7 sage package. So for now my main focus was about the LR courses in each package.)

Should I manage to go through the LR courses or I should focus on on thorough BR reviews and doing PTs?

On a LR section, I usually got -8 on average with a 2 pt variation. In BR, it's usually about -5 (for I was sometimes overconfident for some type of questions so I even did not notice my lack of skills/understanding on certain easier questions; other times, I missed some basic level questions because I misread the given stimulus.) Thus, I felt my weakness was not on a particular Q type of question (esp. from Q 1-12, my errors were always here and there.) But it was more like an overall LR weakness.

I have finished the bible, manhattan, and the trainer. Also, I made a sheet for my attack plan on each question type. But, somehow the question stimulus can always gave me difficulties and ACs could be really confusing regardless of how much I tried to refine my attack method. I am guess it was because I was not paying enough attention to dissect and REALLY understand each stimulus and its argument types and structure. I want to go thorough all of the 7 sage LR courses, but it might cost me too much time. Then I won't have time to really plow through a good amount of PTs. But I am also not sure about how helpful the LR courses were in helping my LR scores.

Would really appreciate any advice/suggestion since no one I knew studied for LSAT here!

Thanks a lot.

I excelled effortlessly in the valid/invalid argument form drills but CANNOT make even the slightest headway into sufficient assumption/pseudo sufficient assumption questions.

Can I move on without sacrificing a fundamental understanding of other topics? Am I doomed?

Hey, I’m wondering, what kind of courses do you recommend taking for undergraduate courses that would improve my Logical Reasoning skills?

Although I was able to get the right answer, I am not sure if my identification of the main conclusion was correct. Can anybody help me with this, please. Thank you in advance!!

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In substitution questions, the part that says "would have the same effect in determining the order..." means what? I am having a hard time putting it into my own words? From my understanding, given the explanations for the questions in that the substitutions can not knock and old rule out of the new world nor can it sneak new rules into the old world? So, "have the same effect.." means that the "world" itself goes unchanged?

Kind of like when a business goes under new management. The only thing that changes is the person in the management position, the business itself stays the same because the policies, guidelines, procedures, etc. (aka the rules) are still the same. The new manager still has to follow the rules of the business. The new manager can not change any of the rules by getting rid of old ones or creating new ones because changing the rules will change the business and that's not what the new manager was hired for. The new manager was hired to follow the rules and uphold the business, not change it.

This is my understanding. Can anyone comprehend this explanation of the theory of substitution on the LSAT?

Please feel free to share your understandings of substitution as well!

I'm taking the March LSAT this upcoming Saturday (3/30) but I'm nowhere near ready for the exam. I started studying in January and overestimated how much I could do while working FT and have only completed about 75% of the core curriculum and about 4-5 PTs (I started to try and do PTs since I was fast approaching the exam date).

I'm averaging about 159 on my exams and can get up to 166 on BR (mostly because I can do LGs perfectly untimed but during the timed section I get anywhere from -5 to most recently -9). I don't have enough time to improve my score but I figured since it's my first time taking the test, I should still go and do so. However, should I worry about getting a score that is not reflective of my true ability? I know you can omit the score but I don't know how much it matters since it's evident schools don't average anymore.

Help is appreciated! Thanks!

What does "fully determined" actually mean on the AR section in games? My understanding, from watching the explanation for game 4 in PT 64, question 20, is that "fully determined" means that there are no other possibilities for any of the pieces to go. Is this accurate?

Is there a way to identify whether the question requires a bridging or blocking assumption from the question stem or stimulus?

i.e. is there a way to definitely prephrase an answer choice for NA questions in a foolproof way?

Hi Im new to this blog and would like to know if there are any suggestions on how to make accurate and complete (AS MUCH AS THERE ARE TO MAKE :-) ) inferences on this Logic Games section!

Thanks in advance.

Hello,

I’m having a bit of difficulty understanding when I should set up my game board as a grouping/sequence game board or an in out one. Prep test 35 game 3 and prep test 60 game 4 seem very similar to me but JY used different game boards for both. Any advice would be greatly appreciated

hey guys,

So this game has 2 "if" rules as follows:

My confusion is from the the first rule. I understood that if George is presenting "J" then Rita is also included. But does it also means that if Rita is presenting "J" then so does George?

please help.

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I'm hitting 2 games with a few mistakes, but then I get to the third and fourth and I get overwhelmed because I took too long on the first two. Today, I scored a 159 on my practice test because I only got 11 right in LG, but the rest I was satisfied about relative to how terrible my LGs are. (23 in RC, 21 & 17 in LR)

Do I just need to foolproof LGs up until the test day?