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In parallel reasoning, the scope of the conclusion must be very similar. If the original argument has a "usually," then AC's conclusion must have a "most" or "usually" etc. Or if the conclusion is universal, "Bats are nocturnal," then the AC's conclusion must also be universal. (Right?)

In match the flaw, the scope of the conclusion is irrelevant.

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This is a technical repost but I really do need some guidance here.

Hi all,

I have been lightly studying for 2 weeks and am going to buckle down as soon as I commit to a 7sage package.

My cold PT was a 149 and I’m really looking to push myself to a 162 - 166.

This brings me to my main question/concern. Can I digest premium/ultimate+ in this time frame. And, is my test date too late as well?

I originally wanted to take October but a nondiscolsed test for me is a no go. Also I’ve read that it’s ok to take a November test as long as you apply right when you get your score.

I want the best bang for my buck here, and that’s why I’ve chosen 7sage. So is ultimate+ worth it for my time frame?

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Last comment monday, jun 24 2019

Full proof by type or not?

So I just finished the games CC (i did all the problem sets) I read the discussions on 7sage but didn’t see a clear cut answer. Now that I will start the bundle (1-35) should I do them by game types or just go through the Pt games?

P.S Im not even close at being good at LG

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Hey 7sagers,

Need some advice...

Currently in my studying stage, I am in the midst of doing timed sections. When I am doing a timed section, I attempt about 19 to 21 questions and miss the rest because of time constraints. I get approximately 15-17 questions correct. However, in my BR I usually get about 21 to 23 correct.

I have read and heard from folks that when you are doing a timed LR section that you should try to train yourself and aim to do about 8-12 questions in about 10 mins. However, when I am doing my sections, at the 10 minute mark I am usually not on that mark and gets me nervous and messes me up for the rest of the section. I feel like between the first 10 questions, there is always one or two questions that are time sinks for me, but I try to stick to doing them because I know they are easier then other questions in the section (something I know I have to stop doing being because it takes up so much time).

Just wanted to know how did those who were able to get the entire section done and have time to review in the 35 mins time slot train themselves to do that? What were some skipping strategies that you developed and incorporated? Did you have certain process when you were doing a LR section? How did you train yourself in 10 mins about doing 8-12 questions? How did you get the balance between speed and accuracy?

I want to try and set up some small bench goals for me: for example from 21 questions in 35 mins to move to 23 questions and then to about 25 etc. Did you have any small stepping stones that you put into place? I am still at least a few weeks from going into full test prep phase but wanted to iron out my process before I get there.

Any help would be awesome.

Thanks!

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On the last few PTs I have experienced a strange trend on LR. When I take the actual PT, I encounter some LR questions that I am uncertain about the answer choice but the answer choice I select is correct. For some of these same questions, I find my self selecting the wrong answer choice during blind review. The most stressful part of this experience is I have not been able to identify a pattern in terms of question types or question difficulty. Really the only pattern is that is happening more frequently.

Has anyone else experienced this? How did you overcome it? Is it simply a lack of understanding?

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Last comment friday, jun 21 2019

Retake or apply?

I am sitting for the July LSAT, as most of know, we are allowed to see our score before deciding to cancel it. I was wondering what score would be a definite cancel? I have a LSAC weighted GPA of 3.75 and would really like to have ANY LSAT score on file (even if I plan on retaking in November) so I can send out some applications for ED. I do not mind going to a tier 4-5 law school if worst comes to worst, as my REAL need is scholarships. I am under a contractual obligation to take the July LSAT (free prep material from my undergraduate will have to be payed back if not taken by July) but I just graduated in December 2018 and barely got to LSAT studying in March. I am a non-tradition law school applicant, I graduated HS in 2003 and decided to go back to school 10 years later after being in the business world. I am a first generation college graduate and of course a first generation potential law school student and would appreciate any and all advice, as there are so many conflicting posts/threads online. My PTs ranged from 134 in March to 147 as of last week. Of course I will continue to use my Princeton Review prep materials until test day. I would like to know if I should cancel a score if I plan on retaking in November? Is it okay to have, say a 150 on file and retake it in November in hopes of getting a higher score?

Thank you in advance 7Sagers

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Sorry if there is another post on here that talks about this.

I just finished the CC, I'm sitting for July (less than 4 weeks away) and am wondering what PT to start with since I have limited time to PT.

I have done a decent job foolproofing, spent a ton of time on LR, and ended with RC so that is fresh on my mind and was doing surprisingly well.

I have a one week vacation from work I plan to take which I'll get about 60 (5 PTs) hours of total study time that week for PT'ing, but weeks with work I'm limited to max out at 25 hours (2 PTs) per week. Giving me a grand total of about 110 hours (not including the rest of this week).

PT's take about 12 hours in total, that's just shy of 10 PTs. Do I start with the most recent 10 then?

Ty in advance.

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1- Is it still a good idea to do the classic LG bundle (1-35) or should I mix some games from PT 50-60 into the bundle?

2- Also another question, while doing the LG bundle I will do the RC CC as well. After I am done with the RC but still in the process of doing the LG bundle, should I incorporate timed sections of LR and RC or just wait and do a full timed PT?

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Last comment wednesday, jun 19 2019

"Typically" and "often"

Hi everyone,

I have a question about seeing the word typically, and I know that I have specifically seen this word in LR questions and I'm wondering what we can take the word to mean. For example if a stimulus says that "Winners of a Nobel prize for science, who are "typically" professional scientists..." how should we interpret this? Does this mean most, many, or some other amount? I am leaning towards interpreting it as most, but I'm not sure if this is logically correct. Additionally, if the word "often" is used in the same way how should it be interpreted?

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Last comment wednesday, jun 19 2019

July 15th 2019 LSAT Study Tips?

I am planning on taking the July 2019 LSAT simply because of the advantage to see then dismiss or keep my score even though I know I won't be ready. The LSAT I am preparing for is the September or October LSAT but I also want to do my best on the July LSAT. Does anyone have any advice on what sections I should prioritize for the July LSAT? I do not want to cram a bunch of stuff over the next month, but I want to be prepared as possible so it is not a complete waste of time. Any study tips?

P.S. I score the lowest on my RC.

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Last comment wednesday, jun 19 2019

Weakness in One Section

Hi 7sagers - I am looking for advice today. I can consistently score about -5 to -7 on the 2 sections of LR and LG combined. My RC section is always what is throwing me into the 160s range. I have worked on the Memory Method from the CC and tend to do a decent bit better on BR. Does anyone have any tricks/methods they've used to help improve speed for RC? I take my first real test next month and really don't want this one section to bring me down.

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It is quite easy for me to finish logic games in desired times after 2 or 3 attempts. I have an extremely good short-term memory for inferences, and also, I do them back to back to back. Usually I don't go over 5 attempts for a logic game, unless I clearly am forgetting inferneces and not finihsing in desired time. However, if I wait two or three days to do it, then I forget most of it and would not be able to get the same results.

Is this common?

also, which one is better? to do 10 all in one setting? or to do them in 10 different days?

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In the stimulus, James says: 'Chemist have recently invented [Deleted: Copyright]'

I really don't understand what James is saying. I've come up with:

  • chemists have a new way of extracting rhodium from nuclear waste (is this correct?)
  • creating catalytic converters for cars --> rhodium
  • I don't really get the last two sentences. How does it connect at all to the first sentence? Is it simply saying that chemist figured out a way to extract rhodium from nuclear waste, and because of this, new catalytic converters for cars can be created. And because catalytic converters remove noxious gases from car exhaust, the nuclear waste (nuclear power??what?) is sort of contributing in creating a cleaner environment?

    Thank you in advance!

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    30.4.1

    I broke down the argument

    Premise: Healthy Nation --> Free Speech --> Best Interest

    Missing Answer: Government --> Best Interest

    Conclusion: Government --> Free Speech

    How does "Free speech is an activity that is conducive to a healthy nation" translate into "Healthy Nation --> Free Speech?"

    It looks to me it translates to "Free Speech --> Healthy Nation"

    Edit: delelted some words, added a new question.

    Admin note: edited title

    https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-30-section-4-question-01/

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    I miss an average of -15 on RC. I have finished the CC, but I'm still struggling with this section. Is improvement a matter of drilling a lot of untimed/timed sections? Does anyone recommend a supplemental textbook? Like Powerscore or the LSAT Trainer for RC?

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    32.4.4

    I'm having trouble breaking down the lawgic in this arugment.

    I did:

    Viceral emotion (VE) always able to Express that emotion (EE) Always able to express anger (EA)

    I thought I was looking for VE --> EA

    but, answer choice "B" was EA --> VE

    Apperently the argrument is read:

    Premise: Visceral Emotion ---> Healthy to Express

    Conclusion: Anger ---> Healthy to Express

    Which leads: (Anger --> Visceral Emotion ---> Healthy to Express)

    How come it's not (Visceral Emotion ---> Healthy to Express --> Anger)?

    How come I'm reading the conclusion as: (Healthy to Express --> Anger)?

    EDIT: I think I figured it out.

    "Always" as a logical indicator introduces necessary group 4.

    Premise: To express a Visceral Emotion it's always Healthy

    Conclusion: To express ones Anger it's always Healthy

    "Always" introduces conclusion.

    Correct me if I'm wrong.

    Admin note: edited title

    https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-32-section-4-question-04/

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    PT8 S1 Q5

    I got the answer right by process of elmination, but didn't understand the argument, more specifically, I don't see where the premise and conclusion are.

    I thought the conclusion was: adolescence the percentage of boys with asthma is about he same as the percentage of girls with asthma.

    And the premise being: because a larger number of girls develop asthma in early adolescence. (Doesn't "because" indicate premise)?

    According to others, apperently the argument is saying:

    Support: the percentage of adolescent boys with asthma is about the same as the percentage of adolescents girls with asthma.

    Conclusion: number of adolescent boys with asthma is equal to number the number of adolescent girls with asthma

    Where does it talk about about numbers of boys and girls hacing asthma being the same? Why is the conclusion not about percentages.

    Can someone clear up why this is?

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    Last comment saturday, jun 15 2019

    miscellaneous games

    Hi everyone.

    The only games that really give me trouble when I take PT's are those categorized as "miscellaneous." I pretty much resort to coming at them with little to no visual representation, and letting the rules guide me to as many answers as I can get. It usually results in me missing most of the questions, and makes me loose about 5-6 questions on LG where in the other games I get either -0 or -1. I'm sure I am not the only one who has been here. Does anyone have advice on how to get better at miscellaneous game types?

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    Does anyone have recommendations for supplemental materials in reviewing valid and invalid argument forms?

    I started the sufficient lesson today however I realized I need to go back and review the prior lessons. I did not locate a 7sage webinar on validity, any suggestions in addition to reviewing the valid and invalid lessons?

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    Given the survey population is a representative of the whole, let's say that a survey result showed 50% of people polled believed that Sally is silly, whereas 30% believe that she is not.

    Is it valid to conclude that more people believe that Sally is silly than believe she is not?

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