I heard somewhere that RC drills are based on older PTs to keep the newer ones fresh

I heard somewhere else that older RCs are easier

Are the drills easier than the actual PT?

Is Josh's coming back to teach LG? He was extremely helpful with my understanding as I am prepping for the upcoming test.

Most of the questions I get wrong on RC are the Inference - Author's Perspective question type. Are there any tips/suggestions on how to approach these questions or things to pay extra attention to when reading through the passage or the ACs? Any insight would be greatly appreciated!

How do you guys do reading comprehension? I can't seem to get any strategies when tackling reading comprehension. I don't know how to get better and if it is even worth practicing since every passage is different? Any advice would be really helpful.

I have a hard time when it comes down to picking out which piece of the argument is the subset or superset. When I drill I sometimes confuse the necessary for sufficient and vice versa. is there any advice anyone can give me not to do this?

I've been trying to find the substitution equivalence lessons here on 7sage after hearing JY mention it in a new videos, as well as people asking for the lessons in the comments. All the links in response to those comments requesting the video lessons lead me to empty pages without any videos or written explanations. Would someone be able to help me find those lessons? Thank you!

What are your recommendations for staying focused and engaged throughout the RC section. Especially when taking a PT. Thanks!

I need advice. I have only been studying for 2 months now but I am already starting to get worried. I have taken 2 PT's & have not finished LR either time, scoring with -15 on both. While I am not too far into CCV2 (still in foundations), I have not been challenged by something this much before, which I guess is threatening to me. I am unsure if it is the wordiness & my want to just have my eyes glaze over while reading the stimuli or if I truly am just not getting it.

I am currently a high school science teacher & my study schedule isn't what I would want it to be due to everything I have going on. My mental stamina is also low. HELP )':

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I noticed a repeating pattern of argument structure that some may find useful. I call the form "Cost Benefit”, below I will discuss how it functions and why it matters.

The argument structure offers one benefit as a premise and concludes from this that the benefit is compelling to make a statement about the original “thing” being good overall.

Let me give an example:

The Dirt Devil vacuum cleaner has the most efficient suction system out of any vacuum on the market, moreover, the Dirt Devil is the most cost effective option on the market. Therefore if you are in the market for a vacuum, look no further than the Dirt Devil.

Here our premise holds 2 benefits (most efficient suction system, most cost effective) out to conclude that the Dirt Devil is the best to buy.

The assumption here and with every “Cost Benefit” argument is that there is not a cost being overlooked that outweighs these benefits.

So,

To Weaken such an argument: Introduce a cost that may outweigh the benefit

To Strengthen: Block out the possibility of potential costs, introduce another benefit, or emphasize the importance/relevance of the benefit.

Additionally, this argument structure is often used for Necessary Assumption questions. The NA simply stating something to the effect of: “The benefit is not outweighed by certain costs” or “The benefit is not unimportant to making a judgement about the original thing”.

The “Cost Benefit” argument also has another cookie cutter form. It uses a cost as a premise and then concludes that something is not good or we should not do something. This argument structure works the same way as the above one, except the assumption is that there is not an overriding benefit.

Cookie cutter arguments matter because patterns of reasoning are finite and LSAC re uses many of the same forms, just dressed up with confusing subject matter. For example to make a “Cost Benefit” argument more difficult, they may make the subject matter abstract or create an argument that makes perfect sense intuitively.

Boiling questions down to empirical structure is like distilling their blue prints and from there you can think about how new questions may spawn from them. Hopefully this is helpful, if so I will make some similar posts in the future!

Hey Everyone! I've only been studying for a few weeks and decided to apply what I learned from 7Sage about quantifiers to all/most/some practice problems in the LSAT Trainer. I'm stumped on one question and would very much appreciate it if someone would be able to map it out for me logically.

The passage is: "Most of the dishes at Oldie’s Diner are unhealthy, and most are offered on special during lunchtime. The dishes on special come with the customer’s choice of free fries or a free soda. All of the dishes offered on special are written up on the restaurant’s chalkboard."

The question is whether "Most of the dishes on the chalkboard are on special" can be true.

No matter how I go about the question using formal logic, I only ever arrive at some dishes written on the chalkboard are on special (Written-Chalkboard (--- s ---) On Special). Thanks in advance studious future attorneys!

I posted a q on the thread for PT32 S3 G2 here https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-32-section-3-game-2/

It asks

"Any one of the following could be true about the organizer's selection of works EXCEPT"

It's an in and out game. The answer choices give a partial list of what's in and are asking if the combination could be true. I'm confused because [I thought] when they ask what could be in, we're looking at a comprehensive list, rather than partial list--so it really threw me. I scavenged the comment section and no one else seemed to get tripped up so clearly this is me 😅

-Can someone explain how you knew the AC's were partial?

-Would you say this is a unique q or naw common get a grip

Reply here or directly on the question thread! tysm!

will lsat be harder after they remove logic games. if so should i do it before they change it?

what is the best skill for time management in the RC section?

So I just bought the subscription to use the logic games drilling but im not sure how it works. I am using preptest 1-50 for drilling and preptests 51- for actual practice tests. I just want to know how to select only 1-50 for my drilling and have it pick random ones with no specific game type.

I've been studying now for 10months and do not see much of the improvement.

Comparing to what it felt like 10 months ago when I first started to study, it was very difficult to understand the passages as well as the answer choices, and comprehending took so much time. I was always short in time by 5~10 minutes when I do the time section on LR(getting -7 ~ -14wrong).

Now, I feel more familiar with the LR passages, sometimes see the pattern and most of the time able to solve 1~2 star questions quickly and some of 4~5 star questions easy, and I am now able to finish timed section roughly in time.

But I don't see much of the apparent improvement and keep getting -8 and sometimes -12 if I was unable to focus and distracted. I will be very happy if I could get less than 3wrong consistently.

I am so devastated. Is this normal? Any advice will be very appreciated.

Can someone explain why E is correct? I feel like B should be the best answer...

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Hi, I've been doing the question sets for the LR question type lessons and I've noticed during my fourth set that my brain starts to get foggy and I can't seem to focus on reading the stimulus. I almost bombed a section because of this and only managed to get a 4/5 because of blind review. How do you deal with brain fog/mental fatigue when studying for the LSAT?

Hello everyone,

So I started my LSAT prep with Powerscore books and then got 7Sage for prep tests. I am struggling with LR, and I have heard a lot of people talk about how the Loophole has helped them a lot with Logical Reasoning. I just wanted to ask if it is worth purchasing the Loophole if I already have my Powerscore books + 7Sage? I just don’t want another thing to buy if it’s going to restate things I already know/can get access to with the LSAT resources I already own.

ALSO, I haven’t gone through the 7 Sage CC since I studied with the Powerscore books. Would you guys say it’s worth it to go through the LR 7 sage CC since I am still struggling with this section? I am not sure I have enough time to since my exam is in October.

Thanks everyone in advance for any advice/tips!!

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What is the difference in this question between what is "inherently fair" and what "society deems correct"?

I’m trying to understand the methodology of doing a practice set of let’s say 2 games, then doing them the best you can , then watching the video for explanation. I just feel like I’m doing the same thing of struggling through a game , then watching the video , doing the game over and over again until I get all the inferences. But then I try a new set and I feel like I either do ok or I’m back to struggling. I’ve done so much practice I’m sure I still I haven’t seen all the types of games there are? Sometimes the way the games are worded confuses me where I take extra time upfront to understand the rules so I can draw it correctly. I’m at a standstill at this point and I want to get it right. :/

Hey, y’all! I’m taking the February LSAT next Saturday and was wondering what my study schedule should be. I’ve been focusing hard this last month on logic games as I think it can boost my score the few points I want to be able to get in. I’ve been doing about an hour a day or so drilling 3-4 games a day. Should I continue doing this? I feel okay enough about the other sections. My goal is a 150ish. Thanks!

Is there a way we can take an LSAT and get a valid score back. I am taking the LSAT in August so obviously there will not be LG on that section.

Hi! I am just wondering if I am supposed to complete all the problem sets as I am moving through the curriculum or if I should be saving some of them?