When we are reading the stimulus and separating the conclusion, premise, and context, are we supposed to ignore the context/"some people's argument"/etc, and then just focus on the Premise and Conclusion?

For example, in NA questions, it seems that after determining which sentence in the context, we can just ignore it and focus on the relationship of support to answer the question.

Am I right on this?

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-21-section-2-question-07/

I initially picked C, probably making some bogus quick logic about how the new bus routes would actually cost the city more and therefore it would not be cheaper to build on the outskirts of town. However, I realize that the answer is B, but still need some more clarification/confirmation in my head to see how that'd be it for sure.

The conclusion is that the Brownlea's post office must be replaced with a larger one. The premises are - the present one cannot be expanded, land near the present one in the city-center is more expensive, and since the acquiring of LAND is where the major cost of a new post office would come from, the outskirts of town is the best place to build it -- because land there must be way cheaper.

B would be the answer because it says that a parking lot would be required if it is built on the outskirts of town and a parking lot would not be required if it is built in the city-center. So, ONE WOULD NEED TO BUY/ACQUIRE MORE LAND (aka more costs) if one builds the post office in the outskirts vs. the city-center. So, building on the outskirts is not necessarily cheaper -- because of the "more" land argument/parking lot which wouldn't be needed if it was built in the city-center.

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-june-2007-section-2-question-17/

The correct answer choice is B: "[t]he argument relies on the testimony of experts whose expertise is not shown to be sufficiently broad to support THEIR general claim."

I think this choice would only be correct if the "THEIR," the "experts" I assume being the referent, is changed to "its," the argument being the referent, because it is the hospital executive who's making a claim beyond the scope of the testimony of these experts.

Thoughts?

I know it takes a lot longer for LSAT than ppl think (at least a year indicated in the course) But the reality for me is I only have about 2 months between now and October test day. Wait, this is not the worst part yet actually, what's even more frightening is that I have NO fundamentals whatsoever. Completely new bee whose first language is not even English (Chinese)

Seems like I got two options here only:

1 Completely butcher the exam in October and die in shame.

2 Kill myself now before that shame comes

Which one you guys vote for?

Any advise much appreciated

Thank you

I am curious how you guys approach RC passages.

For RC, some of my friends told me that they spend about 2 ~ 2.5 minutes skimming a passage and having a grasp on points made in each paragraph. Then, when approaching questions, they go back to a passage for questions whenever needed.

And for others, they said they spend around 3.5 ~ 4 minutes understanding a passage solidly (just like how we try to spend enough time on drawing a solid game board for LG). Then, when working on questions, they barely go look back the passage.

There are definitely pros and cons for both approaches, but I am still curious what you guys think about them and what kind of an approach you guys use for RC. Thank you!

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-23-section-2-question-14/

It seems as answer A is actually agreeing with Lee's argument. Am I incorrect by thinking that the question stem is asking for us to refute Lee's argument?

I have decided to go to law school after I graduate from my college. I started LSAT prep on May 22 for the October LSAT. I know it is hard to improve a lot with a short amount of time. I got 138 for the cold diagnostic test, and I am aiming for 157 October LSAT. The problem is that English is not my first language, and I am not good at reading comprehension. I took a prep test last week after studying for 6 weeks (just reviewing the materials in 7sage, not bible), and I got 150 with using about 50-55minutes per section. It was impossible to finish the test within 35 minutes per section. I am planning to take two PTs every week and review them, and I also going to read bibles. That is all I am planning to do right now. Do you guys think it is possible to get 157 on October LSAT? Is there any tips for studying Logical Reasoning section? Thank you!

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-22-section-4-question-12/

This was confusing! Adults in Country X consume an increasing amount of fat as they grow older, but the percentage of fat in their diet stays the same throughout adult life. Initially, I approached the answer choices thinking: "okay, this is answer going to disqualify a misconception on numbers and percentages" or something along those lines. However, I didn't find this to be the case. The answer is (B), and it says that they generally EAT MORE when they are older than they did in their earlier adult life. I can't help but think, "uh, we don't really know this, do we?" Yes, they might EAT MORE (meaning the quantity might be more), but what does that have to do with them maintaining the percentage of fat in their body? I mean it could technically have no effect, right? Help, please! :)

Hi,

What is the best way to study for the October LSAT and how many hours a day?

I purchased all 3 bibles from Powerscore and all the exams.

Would this be the best way to study?

Should I just keep taking practice test after practice test?

Should they be all timed?

Please help out :)

Thanks!

Been studying for a pretty long time now and I notice the same thing happening every time.

I'll drill a set of 25 LR questions for a specific question type, first timed (1.5-2min per question), and then BR afterwards. While doing these questions timed, I feel like everything is happening very quickly and it's tough for me to get a full grasp of the stimulus, especially for the harder questions. This results in a 21/25 timed score, with the wrong answers usually for questions that have complex stimuli. I'll then BR the questions without any sort of time limit afterwards and I usually go 24/25.

Now, it's really aggravating me because I just don't think my brain is quick enough to process all the key information from the stimulus. I just need more time to extract the relevant info from the complex stimulus---conclusion and premises--- before moving on to the answer choices. I don't think any type of practice will ever help to overcome this issue; my brain just works too slow. Does anyone else feel like they have a similar problem? I read a few weeks ago on TLS a post by some expert who said this very problem is what prevents most students from hitting 170+ on the real thing. This pissed me off because I know it's true. If there's just some way I can get my brain to work quicker...

Lastly, I just want to let you guys know that I've been drilling using the earlier exams. These are known to have wordy and complex stimuli so I'm hoping that when I take the later exams it will help alleviate some of the pressure. I did take a few LR sections from the early 50s and went 23/25 on bunch of them so I'm hoping this trend continues in the 60s and 70s. But this is not something I want to rely on. If anyone was in a similar position and found a way to overcome this issue I'd really appreciate any sort of advice.

And sorry for the crappy writing, it's 2am. Hope you understand what I'm saying. THANKS IN ADVANCE!

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-25-section-2-question-19/

Can someone explain why the answer choice is B?

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-26-section-2-question-11/

I chose E instead of A, and still don't see why A could support the argument better. Can anybody explain that to me? Thanks.

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-19-section-4-question-11/

For some reason I picke answer choice (D) in this question the first time around, during BR I knew that (D) was incorrect because it did not address the issue at all. and also the word "some" threw me off. I crossed out every answer choice except for (B) but I don't think I quite understand why. This math-y argument threw me off lol could somebody better explain this question to me? Thanks.

I just started PT and I'm not able to complete the LR sections. That's not surprising to me at all. I figured that my speed would pick up as I take more PT. I generally only get to about question 15-16 before running out of time and guessing on the rest. Because I'm not finishing the sections my scores are shot. My BR for LR is roughly 19 and up. My BR score leads me to believe that there's still room for improvement with fundamentals. Of the questions that I do complete before time runs out, I only miss maybe 2-3 for both sections. So, my question for you guys, does it seem like I have an issue with just timing, or both timing and fundamentals? I know I'm spending too much time on questions, but I'm getting them right! LOL The questions at the beginning of the sections are typically easier questions though, so Idk if getting them right means too much (I mean every correct answer matters, but how does this mean is terms of fundamentals?). I've noticed certain question types that I need to review. Should I be spending less time on certain question types than others? Meaning I need more fundamental training? Ahhhh! I'm everywhere with this stuff! If you guys can sift through my mumbo jumbo and figure out what I'm trying to ask, any feedback is greatly appreciated.

Hey All,

Just working through some problem sets', and this particular question stumped me big time! Managed to successfully answer the other 4, but, this one gave me some trouble.

I parsed out a (P) + (C):

(P): Nobody wants the job more than Josh (but he doesn't want it)

(C): There will be no applicants (no matter how high salary)

From here, I couldn't really push out a flaw. Furthermore, I didn't see any opportunity to translate into lawgic/logic, to help clarify.

Knowing what the correct AC is and comparing it to the stimulus, it is definitely the most comparable. However, I was looking for a more detailed explanation of how to solve this question if possible.

Help? Thank you!

For this question type, a part of the stimulus is in the question stem verbatim.

Do you, after reading the question stem, find/identify the accompanying part in the stimulus PRIOR to reading the stimulus from start to finish?

Or do you just make a mental note of that sentence and read normally without any prior identification?

Hi fellow 7-Sagers,

Looking for some advice here; is process of elimination the best strategy for answering all types of RC questions? It seems like reading through all answer choices can be a real time sink, but I have been under the impression that POE is best most of the time on the test (apart from certain LG questions where you can hunt for the correct answer and/or move on right after you find it). Thoughts?

I seem to be getting these wrong the most are these misc logic indicator questions or just random questions? Any tips for these?

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-23-section-2-question-14/

For a question stem like this are we strengthening Kim's argument or weakening Lee's? My initial thought was that it strengthens Kim's, but as it directly addresses something Lee says, I wanted to confirm.

Here's the stem: "Which one of the following, if true, provides the strongest defense of Kim's explanation against Lee's criticism?"

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-33-section-3-question-08/

In JY's lecture, for the group 3 logical indicators such as "without", he mentions that we should negate any idea and make it as the sufficient condition. So for this question, I first negate "doing research of their own" and make it as a sufficient condition; that is, translate it into /R -most-> PISM, which was why I got wrong on this question.

But JY translate it into PISM -most-> /R. So I want to clarify whether this translation rule for logical indicators does not apply to "most" or "some" relationship.

Thanks!

can someone help me understand question 1? if they say the price of oil is connected to the price of cement, how can answer B be the correct answer? wouldnt oil be the source of energy to all the kilns?

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-22-section-4-question-12/

Im having trouble understanding why B is the correct answer. I read over the stimulus several times over, but for some reason could not figure it out. I was hoping I could receive some help understanding.Thanks  

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-68-section-4-game-4/

I'm having some serious trouble with this game. Any thoughts/suggestions? I've done other sequencing games with conditional rules, of course, but nothing as open ended as this one. Can anyone think of any similar games?

I've taken a pretty substantial LSAT break and it could just be that I'm a bit rusty but I'm having trouble nailing this one down even after a few repetitions (not typical for me).

Thanks in advance!

Hey there!

So I am gearing up for the October 2015 LSAT. I am taking the Kaplan Self-Paced course, which is pretty awesome. It has tons of resources and is super customizable. I also have the LSAT Trainer by Mike Kim, however I am finding myself with not much time to go through that, especially because I am interning full time. I really would ideally like to score a 160+, would it be okay if I back off on the Trainer and focus more on the Kaplan course, or should I make more of an effort to make time for both? I'm already really strapped for time and I just want to be as efficient as possible. Oh! And has anyone taken the Kaplan Self-Paced course/have any opinions on it or tips??? Thanks!

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-26-section-2-question-09/

Can someone explain why the correct answer is B? Thank you!