Hi there,

Is there a lesson as part of the CC where the process for approaching LR Evalutate questions is covered? If not is there a particular problem/ set of problems JY works through where he explains his strategy in detail?

Thanks yall

Has anyone used Odyssey Logic Games Revolution for LG? Don't get me wrong, 7Sage is Golden for me!! I have ZERO complaints! I love the explanations here but from time to time I need to see things from a different point of view for better understanding. If anyone has used Odyssey is it totally different, or would I be able to merge the two methods when needed? I don't want a new method because that would be confusing. I'm just trying to see if they're comparable.

Before entering the PT's in the 80's, I used to blaze through the LR questions and would get -4/-5. Obviously, not perfect but a solid result.

But once I entered the 80's, my LR started dipping and I end up getting -7 to -9. I took a step back and tried to see what's going on.

I'm starting to find that a lot of the flaws and assumptions in LR in the 80's are still the same, but they are disguised with more convoluted language, both in the stimulus and in the answers. This has forced me to have to slow down now and really untangle the language in both the stimulus and answers now.

Is this something people have noticed or am I just going crazy? Lol.

I used to love blazing through the sections, but am wondering if I need to slow down now to attain accuracy on the more recent PT's.

I've found that the games I struggle with most consistently involve conditional logic. I don't have any trouble understanding the logical relations themselves, but the complexity of the rules gets me very confused. For example, when a rule says something like, if A is before B, then C is before D. An example of a game that gives me trouble is PT78.S2.G3: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-78-section-2-game-3/

Does anyone have any advice on how to approach these games?

So as part of my penance for letting the games hurt me in September (PT 73), I'm forcing myself to be super formal in my review as preparation for my December retake. For no particularly good reason, I started with Game 3. I'm working on the others and might post them too. For those who can't wait for JY's far superior explanations and clever quips, here ya go:

http://imgur.com/md1YLAi

I'm pretty sure this doesn't violate copyright since I'm not including the game stimulus or questions or answers. If I am, please delete. :)

Could someone explain why the correct answer choice is E ? Also is there a way for me to look up an explanation for this specific question on 7sage? I just started the free trial so I am still getting used to the site?

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Hey, Does anyone know if a Mac 10.12.6 is acceptable for test ? ProcturU says minimum 10.13 and I wrote to clarify but they sent me to the same FAQ page.

Thanks for any help

Does anyone consistently approach weakening questions like RRE and see consistent results?

I just took PT 85 S3 and on Q24 JY shows how to resolve the question using an RRE method. I see exactly why this question is right now and have a great understanding for RRE questions (it's my favourite question type as I can often get them right even if I have no idea what's going on lol).

So I was wondering if it might be good to leverage my strengths and try it out , but thought I would ask to see if anyone else does this. :)

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these two games are a perfect example of why I get confused as to when I should set up my game board as a grouping sequencing game or a regular grouping. What throws me off is that they both have inherent order (game 1: 1 3 5, and game 2: 1 2 3).

I would appreciate any insight as to how some of you are able to determine what type of game board is needed in these situation. Thanks!

I picked E for this one, when the correct choice was C.

I realize that C is the VERY opposite and E is just less relevant (though still logically opposite) to the theory. So for LEAST questions, should we be looking for the VERY opposite? Or the WEAKEST?

Do we get an email a few days before orr....?

Hey everyone I tried searching through the forums to see if there were any hits and I didn't see anything but I am a little confused on general principles. I am doing pretty well on the method of reasoning portion of the curriculum knock on wood but one area that I've noticed myself wasting too much time on are on answer choices that mention something to do with the argument using a general principle. I've been getting in the habit of quickly attempting to come up with an example of whatever the answer choice is and then comparing that to the argument featured in the stimulus that I have summed up in my own words but I keep second guessing myself on the answer choices with something to do with a general principle.

In the second lesson of the method of reasoning curriculum JY uses the "all jedi use the force" or "all apples are fruit" as examples for a general principle. That makes sense to me but then I'll see some stimulus's where either a premise or conclusion will say something that I think could be interpreted as a general principle and then that gray area is the source of my question. Most recent example was form LSAT 19 Section 4 Question 18 June 1996. I got it right during blind review but it seems like this is one simple fix I can make to tighten my shot group. Does anyone have any other examples of general principles or any tips on their approach?

-Stay safe and thank you for your time!

I am trying to apply to Cardozo law for next year, and it is not updated or something is not working right.

It is only giving me the option of applying for 2021 and it says applications are coming soon, instead of for 2020.

Anyone else having this problem?

I'm confused with definition and/or terminology. Is numbered ordering the same as basic linear ordering (with a number line), or is there a difference? [3D numbered ordering and Advanced Linear ordering]

Also is there any relationship between numbered ordering and relative ordering.

Please help. Thank you.

just realized like three days ago that I signed up for the LSAT in the eastern time zone and I live in central!!! I have been trying to wake up at 6:30am (central) this week so it won't be as bad when I have to wake up at 7:30 (eastern) but that was definitely something I should have considered when signing up!!! oops. any tips from anyone?? thanks in advance

This is a method of reasoning question. I got the answer correct - B - because stimulus goes and defines unnatural and uses that to destroy the absurd claim it sets out to. However, why is AC D wrong? Is it b/c it is partially right and not fully correct. The claim does say doing something unnatural is impossible - hence to a certain degree that would be a contradiction...

Thoughts?

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weaken: a cause b

a there b not there

b there a not there

Strengthen: a cause b

a there b there

b not there a not there

a not there b not there

Do you guys agree with the above? Are there other ways to strengthen/weaken?

Tough. Choice (E) is correct.

You can tell by using the

contrapositive on both of these statements:

If not (prices fall as rapidly as/more rapidly than

competitors),

then not (production costs fall as rapidly or more rapidly).

if NOT (production costs fall AS rapidly), then NOT (not slower to adopt new tech)

= as fast as competitors to adopt new technology.

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I thought I had been getting better at LR, I took this section and got -9 which is no better than when I began studying. Kinda discouraging but I think this was a really hard LR section.

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-61-section-4-question-14/

I simply had no clue for this one. And the correct AC seems to be making a huge assumption so I didn't choose it. Can we really reasonably infer that thieves who do not abandon cars before their owners notice that they have been stolen are more likely to get arrested and convicted? This just seem to be way too big of a gap, and frankly an unreasonable one, to be made.

Why do car thieves steal cars? To sell them or to keep them. So it's totally reasonable to assume that thieves DO NOT abandon the car right after stealing it. And I simply don't see how this makes them more likely to get caught as they could have driven really fast and got far away before the cops could do something.

Has anyone else had trouble with this question? What do you think?

Anyone have a sense of general order of difficulty for Logic Games ---- And/Or a plan of attack based on that?

ie If the 3rd or 4th passage Game to be most difficult, then save to the end...

or if two games are equally difficult, save one with least questions for last?

Thoughts?

I had a first LSAT absence 4 years ago, which appears on the LSAC record. Back then, I decided to pursue a different career path, thinking I won't ever take LSAT and go to law school. But as I'm studying and preparing for law school again now, I was wondering if I do not show up for the registered October test, will total of two absences appearing on the record hurt my chance of admission when I actually apply?

I saw several discussions online saying it won't matter much, but those comments were written 3~4 years ago, so I wanted to know if such is still the case. Thank you!

Hi everyone,

I'm currently reviewing PT 37 that I completed yesterday and I'm on section 2 #12. Even watching JY's video, I'm still a little confused about the "cannot" and "without" in the stimulus. Anyway, I was just wondering-- what do you do when you have two indicators but they're in different groups? Or the way that JY presents it, maybe we're disregarding the "without" for being in group 3? And we're just treating it as a "no"?

I mean, either way, for the two indicators in one sentence issue--I feel like there was a lesson on this or that it was mentioned somewhere, but I can't seem to find it. If anyone could let met know or let me know what lesson it was in, that'd be great. And if you can further explain #12 I'd really appreciate it too! Thank you! :) Happy studying!

Hello, am I looking to weaken and strengthen the conclusion in my answer choice. Should I select an answer that could work both ways? Or find the answer that does either or? Thank you