This is just venting.... so bear with me (or vent with me)!

I took the October test and didn't get to finish the game section and it bothered me so much. I got a 165 and thought that score reflected my performance. Took the November test and walked away feeling like it was an average PT, not great but not bad either, but got a 165 again! I feel like there is such a mismatch vs my perceived performance. On PTs I've been scoring mostly 170-173, above 175 on half a dozen PTs. I'd be upset when I would occasionally score 167-169, which was low for me. If going by how I feel I did on the test I thought the November test would've been at least a 168-169. As in the lowest. I just don't know anymore and feel horrible.

Anyone else score way below what you PT at?

I am currently stuck between a 147-151 on PT. I have about 10 weeks until I take the LSAT and my goal score is a 154. I have gotten a 154 once, but that was untimed and I took double the time recommended. Does anyone have any advise on how long I should study or what I should do throughout the next few weeks?

I don't understand why B is correct. JY, make a explanation video real quick

Im trying to do these questions and they make zero sense to me, I cannot wrap my head around how you go about solving them. Ive also been doing the core curriculum with the explanation videos and I still can not comprehend, when explained the right answer choice makes sense but it does not make sense when I go to do it by myself.

I understand why A is correct, but why is E wrong? Is it because E does the opposite of weaken and just strengthens the argument?

Hi,

What is the difference between premise indicator vs. context? The way I understood was that context are just additional info to lead up to the premise.

Whats your study plan for January?

Hi, so I've been done the LR section of the curriculum for a while now, and LR is pretty much my best section at the moment, but I have always wondered one question and it's whether or not mapping out hard 5 star LR questions like MBT or parallel method of reasoning is a good habit during PTs and even on test days. JY has typically said to be able to manage it in one's head from what I remember, but I wanna hear if anyone thinks otherwise. This would be on the given scrap paper, obviously.

Ok so in my November Lsat I kept seeing this weird question stem that I have not seen anywhere before?

I don't really recall the exact wording but it was something like which one of the following could be true but may not be?? something along those lines? It was kind of combining two question stems together? I'm not sure if anyone knows the question stems I'm talking about but if you do please help a man out.

Thanks

Hi guys, I took the November Lsat and I’ve just been stressed about not getting the score I was anticipating. If that is the case, do you think the February lsat is too late to take it?

So, for questions that the answer choices have 'one' in them>>>

Example

"The end of an action is the intended outcome of the action and not a mere by-product of the action, and the end's value is thus the only reason for the action."

When I attacked this one, I eliminated the choices that had "One can" in them because I didn't think that was the subject of the conclusion.

Can anyone explain how to approach answer choices with that ("one can") in them, and why I need to be able to decipher what the choice is really summarizing about the conclusion?

Is there a stimulus to know that one of these types of choices will be correct?

I just understand the mindset I should have towards questions like these. These are some of the more difficult type LR questions (174 was the cap on the gray scale).

Much appreciated!

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https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-23-section-3-question-25/

Hi everyone! I just took five practice questions and for PT B, section 4, question 25. If anyone has this question open or has worked on it recently, I'd greatly appreciate the help!

I selected D but the answer choice was A, I'm not understanding how the answer ended up being that both towns are comparable in living cost/price. How is this the main point?? Thank you very much in advance :)

Hi! I'm trying to study logic games by type (ie. In/Out., Grouping, Linear, etc.). Is there a resource where the games for PTs 1-93 are comprehensively sorted? Thanks

Can we start register for the February test now?

Please help, I am having trouble understanding why A is wrong. We know that dietary changes --affect--> high cholesterol ---correlates / causes ---> heart disease, and we know that dietary changes don't affect lipoprotein(a). So the fact that the argument fails to consider the possibility that lipoprotein(a) raises cholesterol levels seems like a flaw to me because we can't conclude there is no reason for people to make dietary changes for preventing heart disease.

This is my line of reasoning: if lipoprotein(a) raises cholesterol level, which is affected by dietary changes, then we can't conclude "there is no reason to make dietary changes for preventing heart disease" because we know dietary changes affect cholesterol level which in turn is correlated with heart disease. Basically, if lipoprotein raises cholesterol levels, then people might want to change their diet and stop consuming foods that contain lipoprotein. I watched the explanation video many times, and I still don't understand why A is irrelevant.

Any help would be appreciated, thank you!!

Please help!

Hi All,

This is my first post, so if I make any major "faux pas", please let me know. This post is regarding a MSS question on PT Feb 1997, Section 3, Question 16.

In this question stimulus, we are given a discussion about zebra mussels—an invasive species in the Great Lakes that possesses some redeeming qualities. Zebra mussels consume algae that they filter from the water, and in discharge streams, they improve water quality by removing some amounts of hazardous waste.

Question stem: Which one of the following is most strongly supported on the basis of the statements above, if they are true?

Responses:

(A). Zebra mussels arrived on transatlantic freighters, and displace native species.

A is incorrect. This is because it is irrelevant how or why the Zebra mussels are here. We want to know what the implications of their redeeming qualities and presence in the lakes means for the chemical plant.

(B). If Zebra mussels spread to the Mississippi River, the clam industry will collapse.

B is incorrect. This response is irrelevant, we simply don't have any information in the passage to show that the Mississippi River clam industry will collapse. Also, we aren't really interested in this information either.

(C). There is no mechanical means of clearing the Zebra mussels.

C is incorrect. This response is irrelevant and is not supported by the passage. There very well could be mechanical means or other means of clearing the Zebra mussels.

After reviewing all of the answers, I was down to the final two responses:

(D). The algae on which the mussels feed would, if not consumed by the mussels, would clog the intake pipes at the chemical plants.

D This answer is incorrect. I anticipated that this statement is the most strongly supported. Based on my initial reading, it seemed like this would be a logical inference to make. The algae would likely clog the intake pipes, BUT FOR the zebra mussels consuming them.

Do we not have enough information from the passage to support this answer?

(E). Any hazardous waste the mussels remove from the chemical plant will remain in the mussels, if they do not transform it, they must be regarded as hazardous waste.

Answer (E) is the correct answer. This answer is the most strongly supported response. This answer is somewhat sensible, but it still seems a bit off. How do we know that the hazardous waste will go into the mussels? The last clause of the sentence makes sense "if they do not transform it, they (the mussels) must be regarded as hazardous waste". However, for this to be true, we must accept the first clause of the sentence, which I don't think we currently have enough support in the passage to make.

Note: This is the major curve-breaking response, and is likely a major source of error/frustration for many. I am one of the frustrated ones. In short, I am still a bit confused on why E is correct, rather than D. Answer E simply sounded a bit too a dystopian Sci-Fi of a response to be correct.

I would appreciate any feedback that you folks have to offer. Thanks.

[I am posting on behalf of a 7Sage user. Please feel free to leave your comments below. Thank you for your help!]

I saw in the video that JY recommended us to "circle" the wrong answers for "except" questions during paper tests. For online test, would you recommend any substitute method?

What I was more confused about is how to avoid choose the opposite choice for "except" questions and if there is a special tactic for the "except" questions.

I know many people have said the pts in the 80's LR are more difficult. I do feel like they are, but even if they are more difficult they feel different. My question is how do I approach LR in the 80's. I scored -9 in pt 80 and 81 and -6 in the 70's. PLEASE HELP :((((

Why is AC E wrong?

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I'm planning on taking the LSAT in January 2023, yet I'm not finished with the core curriculum. Should I still take it regardless if I finish? This will be my first time taking the LSAT.

On ordering games where a rule says x is lower than y, does that mean x is less than y? For example, if there are 6 slots, if y is 2 then x is 1 right? Or did I just completely bomb the November exam LOL.

I was so frustrated when the proctor unmuted his mic and told me to "stand up!" I then told him no because I was taking my test and the time was ticking, in which he replied "okay, sorry." I lost my train of thought while working on a logic game and had to start over. As a result, I was not able to finish the last two questions of that section which left me frustrated throughout the rest of the exam.

Will I be able to re-take the LSAT?

Recently in tests, with regards to the LR section, I've been scoring perfect or near perfect on all the four-star/five-star "curve breaker" questions, though been getting some three star and two star questions wrong, and on the occasion a one-star question too. What could the possible cause be you think? Seems like an odd pattern I want to fix as I really think I can master LR once I fix this issue. Note, I almost always get more 3 star and 2 star questions wrong than 4/5 star questions.