Hey everyone, I'm scoring around low 160s and having a lot of trouble with Flaw/Descriptive Weakening questions. Even after reviewing the core lessons, I'm having trouble identifying an approach beyond this test: "1) descriptively accurate 2) describing the flaw." I feel like this approach is vague, and it rarely singles out an answer for me. Anyone have some tricks they can share for approaching those 4/5 star Flaw questions? Thanks.

I know we always say practice practice practice and it will get easier, but I really struggle with reading efficiently on reading comp despite the practice. I am not a fast reader and it takes me a second longer to truly understand a sentence. If I do an untimed reading comp passage, I almost always get every answer correct..... but it will take me like 15-20 minutes. Then, when I do timed, I get almost 50% wrong. Help!! How do I read more efficiently on reading comp?

AC that is descriptively correct but somewhat falls short of MP (but isn't completely off)

vs

AC that is stronger than what the passage said (but doesn't contradict), but except that captures the MP

Here's the example of the two

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-121-section-3-passage-2-questions/

AC A and D in Q6 are the example of the former and the latter, respectively.

I believe D is stronger than what it was said in Line 52~53 (Indeed ~ Intention), because

D is saying that "unconscious revelation" is guaranteed to happen, while the passage only gives it as sufficient condition (unconscious revelation → more authority)

Some might say that the passage is actually trying to guarantee "More authority & Unconscious revelation", but I believe it was given as a conditional relationship, because Q10 is to see if we have understood this relationship.

So back to my original question, do ACs like D always win ?

(I know we don't have do look for "perfect" AC when it's "most accurately" question. I just want to know which quality weighs more)

I'm going through the core curriculum and I got most of the drills from the W/S/E module wrong. it's crazy.

I feel very comfortable with the theory and strategy for this question type but when it comes to drilling, I miss so many of them! What is happening?

Sighh... Guys I'm really struggling with PSAr question types. I understand the idea of "rule and application", and I know the 4 groups for necessary and sufficient indicators, however I am not quite sure I grasp how I am supposed to approach PSAr question types. I frequently end up with two answer choices left where at least one would be correct, but I always pick the wrong one. Ik we should be looking for a rule where the premises in the stimulus triggers the rule, but I keep getting it wrong. Maybe I'm not approaching these properly? Idk, I'm soo confused and frustrated, please SOMEBODY lmk if I'm missing something, or a way to approach these questions🥲.

Hey everyone:) I am just starting my LSAT studying journey, with the intention of taking the exam in June. I have been told about making a Wrong Answers Journal (WAJ), but I wanted some feedback on how others went about it and how it helped them. Did you write down the answers manually? Did you create a doc that you copied and pasted? How did you review the answers during your studying sessions?

Thank you for your feedback and best of luck to everyone on their journey!

I am almost through the foundations section of the 7Sage curriculum. I do not understand lawgic and I am disappointed in myself. I decently understand it, however when we put it all together to draw valid conclusions, I get lost. Is this normal? Should I move on to the logical reasoning section or relearn everything in foundations?

For those who have taken an official test before, what do you find works for you in the final weeks leading up to it? Do you stick with your study schedule, ramp things up, or take a break? Any suggestions??

And good luck to all those who are taking the January test!

I switched gears in my studying to focus on RC, while focusing on RC and completing the RC hero course, I took a step back from LR. Prior to my switch, I was getting -6 to -8 on LR, now as I've tried to tackle the entire test - I've found myself getting -8 to -10 on LR. I take the test in two weeks, is there anything I can do to help improve my LR to where I was before? I'm not even sure where I'm going wrong anymore. I keep a wrong answer journal to review where I go wrong, but it doesn't seem to be helping. I've read loophole, LR bible, did the whole 7sage curriculum, so I'm unsure of how to move forward, and I don't want to spend any more money on prep since my test is so soon. My most common wrong questions are NA, SA, and Flaw. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

I'm extremely comfortable with the LR sections, and on average with my current methods I'm getting around -3 per section. What are some uncommon, or otherwise hyperanalytical methods to improve to -2 or less consistently?

Hi all,

I recently answered a question (PrepTest 112 - Section 3 - Question 26) during a drill that confused me. In short, there was an argument about a fifth force (as opposed to the traditional four) existing within scientific models of the universe. My confusion results from the question's phrasing: "which of the following, if true, most strengthens the argument that there is a 5th force?"

I found this phrasing confusing, as it is not clear to me which argument it is referring to. Is this asking for the answer choice which most strengthens the idea that there is a fifth force? Or, more specifically, is the question asking to identify the answer choice which most strengthens the argument provided in the stimulus which concludes there is a fifth force?

These two possible arguments referred to by the question are quite similar. They have identical inclusions, and one includes the other. And, through process of elimination, I arrived at the correct answer. But I am concerned about questions of this nature appearing again. How do you interpret this? Is it clear to you?

All opinions are invited and appreciated!

Thank you

I can get the easier WSE questions right, and the occasional 4/5 star difficulty questions right, but I have yet to get 5/5 on a hard difficulty WSE drill. I am getting frustrated. Does anyone have any advice on how to approach these questions? I feel like the method to the madness here is vague and therefore much harder to nail down.

I am retaking after getting a 165 on the Oct. test, and I am anxious about difficult LR sections. A predictions video online said that they are adding more formal conditional logic and questions about numbers. Does anyone know of any sections that have more questions like this? I felt like the October test was much more difficult than PTs but it could have also been my anxiety.

I just got a question wrong because I was confused about bi-conditionals so I just want to clarify

If A(----) B, that does NOT mean that B(---)A, right?

The contrapositive of a bi-conditional in the form A(-----)B is /A(----)/B

Is this right?

A trend I'm noticing on my recent practice tests (in the last 2 months) is that most of the LR questions I miss have the Causal Reasoning tag. I've been working my butt off to try and improve on this type but for the life of me I can't seem to get any better. I've reread the Loophole's chapter on CausR, the PS Bibles, gone through the 7sage lessons, and have been drilling 5* causal reasoning questions multiple times a day with thorough reviews of the answers and yet I keep missing these questions when it comes to a practice test.

Has anyone been in a similar situation or have any advice to offer?

This is causing me a headache.

Hello, I wanted any suggestions about stuff to read outside of LSAT material that is similar to RC so I can get my brain used to that sort of reading. Any suggestions of books, news outlets, etc? The economist is one I hear but now its a steep price to pay so am looking for something cheap! Thanks

I am looking for someone who has completed the RC HERO course and wanting to work on some passages together. Let me know if you are interested.

Hi everyone,

I’ve finished the 7Sage curriculum and just read The Loophole. I’m wondering if anyone who has read The Loophole would be interested in working on some questions together. I’d like to practice using the Party Trick and the Powerful/Provable Primers. Let me know!

Can someone please explain when the answer to a LR question would be 'X is considering too small of a sample size'? I feel like these are never the answer yet are valid ways to weaken the argument.

Thanks!

Just took my first LSAT in November and was very disappointed with my score, feeling like it didn't represent my abilities on this test. My PT average leading up to the test was a 166-167, and I scored a 166 on PT158 (under normal test day conditions) just 2 days prior to taking the LSAT. I ended up scoring a 158 on the real exam.

I will need to be a super splitter candidate to get into the law schools I want to due to a lower (but upward trending) GPA, and need a 170+ score. I'm willing to spend however long it takes to reach that point.

So do you think I should cancel my score as it was a whole 8-9 points under my PT average, or should I keep it?

I would appreciate any feedback!

I am having trouble with MBT questions. This should not be that difficult, but I do not see how the correct answer comes into fruition from the stimulus. Can someone please help.

I'm absolutely over the moon!!! From 151 in September to 162 now, I'm so proud of myself!!

So thrilled with the results I was able to get. Previous administrations I just screwed around, didn't really have any structure, and while I got good results, I knew I could do better.

The syllabus really gave me comfort in the logic underlying the test and the analytics 7Sage offers are so much deeper than everything else I've tried. By the end I was actually loving drilling sections every morning, I am going to miss it. Not going to miss waiting for results though.

Thank you 7Sage!

153 on Nov which is just so irritating because my nerves from RC not going well largely influenced my later sections which were real and my timing just sucked. Also had personal matters occur the day before and despite trying to shake it off, I think my mind was elsewhere. Nov score is 3 points lower than Oct (156) which also was a bad test day because I was impacted by hurricane and I took the retest after no studying for 2 weeks bc no power and being stuck. Aug was 155 and I was happy thinking it was a good starting point and was how I had been PTing. Now with a score decrease I am just so angry because I know I can do better and underperforming is just my issue. I have mental blocks when I start to feel stuck and it leads me to rereading and timing just being so bad. I think I need to change my approach but don't know how? I have the loophole book and will probably look over the curriculum for conditional and grammar maybe? I am also just curious if it is truly possible to have a significant change if I am also getting a job since my gap months of studying are now just not proving efficient and I need to occupy my resume for admissions. All this to ask if it is worth retaking if I do not improve that much but I just have a gut feeling to retake since I feel my potential is better than all the scores I have, and it's just mentality on test day causing me issues. I'm also all over the place with PT's being high 150s and then sometimes 160s so also curious if there is a just not a "click" in studying yet (largely depends on LR score and question variety most of the time, RC is pretty consistent). if you read all this, thank u for letting me rant and also would appreciate advice. I just want a 160 at this point.

I just received my November LSAT score and only improved 1 point from my last test in August 2023. I don’t really understand how because I have studied more than ever in my life and was doing over 6 points better on my practice tests. This is now my third time taking it with my scores barely improving. I took it June 2023 and got a 157, August 2023 158 and now November 2024 159. Since I’ve taken it 3 times with little improvement should I cancel my score or leave it? I fear it may look bad on my applications. I truly thought I would improve more if I retook it and now I’m at a loss.