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My situation: I have signed up for the October and November LSAT and plan to apply for this round. The thing is that I just decided to apply to law school this June, so I do not have much time to prepare for the LSAT and take the test. I have great Anxiety and only got accommodation 50% more time for the November test (I missed the deadline to apply for October. In my PT, I am now around 164 for normal timed tests, but because I constantly get distracted by my anxiety, if under the accommodation time, I am around 172. My parents and friends all suggested I take the test in October, just not put all chance into one test, but I am afraid my anxiety will make a mess in October, making it even below 160s. I am concerned some law school admission boards would concerned about score gaps if I got a better score in November. I actually took the LSAT in August, which was definitely a disaster because of my anxiety. It turns out to be 151. I am just afraid that the nightmare will happen again in October without accommodation. With more resting time and extended time, things definitely felt better from my end. But, all the people around me suggested I should take the October test. What would you recommend? I think the main concern for me is the score jumping if I messed up in October, or if I take then canceled will the admission board think that is a terrible grade and still consider it be a score jumping.

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Hey everyone!

LSAC has provided final instructions for the October 2023 LSAT that can help you ensure that you're ready for test day.

Students testing remotely:

Before your test session, make sure to log into your LSAC LawHub account with your LSAC username and password to confirm they are correct. Look for a new "LSAT" option in the left-hand menu of your account, which should indicate your eligibility for the October 2023 LSAT. If you do not see this option, contact LSAC immediately through their chat feature on the LSAT Website, email LSACinfo@LSAC.org with "OCTOBER 2023 LSAT ISSUE" in the subject line, or call 1-800-336-3982 during business hours.

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Make sure to download and install the ProProctor application at least 48 hours before your test. If you are using a work or school computer, ensure that you have administrator rights to download the necessary software. If not, consider using a different computer.

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On test day, ensure that you start your test session punctually, as failure to do so may lead to cancellation. To guarantee a seamless testing experience, follow the checklist provided for remote test-takers. If any issues arise during the startup process, utilize the chat feature in the ProProctor interface to seek assistance from Prometric or ask your proctor for help.

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It is important to arrive at the test center 30 minutes before your scheduled test session. This will allow time for you to complete your check-in process and start your test at the time you scheduled. Failure to arrive on time may result in a test cancellation. To ensure a smooth testing experience, follow the checklist for in-person test takers and watch the video provided by Prometric for guidance on the check-in process and what to expect at the test center.

General preparation and reminders summary

• The Candidate Agreement prohibits discussing the test content on social media and using a cell phone during the test.

• It is recommended to familiarize oneself with the LSAT format using the free practice tests on LSAC's LawHub.

• The LSAT consists of four sections, including a 10-minute intermission between the second and third sections.

Familiarize yourself with the rules for the intermission. Failure to follow these guidelines will result in a cancellation of your test.

• In case of significant issues preventing completion or affecting performance on the test, use the online form that will be available in your LSAC account to report them.

To assist October test takers with any test-related problems, LSAC has created exclusive phone lines with the numbers 215-966-6640 and 1-855-296-7479. However, it's important to remember that these numbers will only be available and staffed during the testing days, at specific times.

• Friday, October 13 – 8 a.m. to 11:59 p.m. ET

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Outside of these testing hours, please call 1-800-336-3982 if you need assistance.

LSAT Writing: All test takers must have a completed and approved LSAT Writing sample on file to receive the score on November 1 or have it released to law schools. The sample must be completed through the provided online link in their LSAC account. LSAT Writing for the October test is now open. If test takers already have an LSAT Writing sample on file from a previous test, they do not need to submit a new one.

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In logic games im getting a bit confused. When are two items always apart?

for example is the always apart

/j --> k

or is it

j --> /k

or is it both? I've seen JY put a place holder in many in/out games saying these two are always apart but when do you know exactly they're always apart?

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Hi, I'm having trouble with this passage's last question, which discusses what statement is more likely to be made by a member of Third Party, rather than the Popular Front. I chose C because I think the Third Party focused more on racial issues for African Americans, rather than the Popular Front's retreats on attacks from White Chauvinism. I'd like to know why B, considering that it is more general and less racially focused, would be more in line with the Third Party rather than the Popular Front, who seem more broad and general. My only possible answer is that the Third Party is less appealing to moderates, and the AC B really doesn't appeal to them. But, this does not inform me of why AC C is wrong.

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Hi!

The premise for PT61 S4 Q24 says "Most long-term friendships begin because someone felt comfortable approaching a stranger."

I am a bit confused as how to map this out but I think I have an idea.

I initially thought the word "because" would make the idea following the word "because" become on the right side when put into lawgic form:

felt comfortable approaching stranger -> long-term friendship.

However, is it because of the word "Most" that makes the lawgic form become:

friends -most-> felt comfortable approaching stranger

Am I confusing "because, since, and for", by thinking I am looking for premise and conclusion when I already know what the premise is. In other words, am I mixing causal and conditional logic?

Sorry if this sounds confusing as I am having a hard time trying to explain my confusion. :(

Thank you!!!!

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PrepTest B - Section 1 - Question 18

I got trapped in the cookie cutter AC A , misread it. My reasoning was fine, we need to make a subtle assumption that because the intended function of news is to give us information on which to act, news that primarily entertain does not serve its intended function, and thats given to us in AC D

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Currently scoring -8-6 in LR. Would ideally like to get that closer to -5-3 before the November test. I know I’m stretching it, but what would the best way to do that be?

4 to 5 of my wrong questions tend to be at the end of the section 4 or 5 star question. Should I just drill that level of question? Would a tutor make a difference in this short of a time?

Thanks for any help!

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Hi!!

Whenever I do Modern test with 1LR, 1LG, and 1RC I get about -5 ~ -6 on LR. However, when I do two LR it is -5/-6 on one LR but about -10/11 in the second one. I see the pattern but I am not sure what the issue could be?

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From PT B - Section 1 - Question 06.

None except the most virtuous deserve praise

I know it's part of the 4th group, where you negate the necessary. But I've only seen examples like "none of the Americans are political" and there's no video guide for this one.

How does the "except" affect the translation?

I'm unsure if this is supposed to be...

DP -> MV

MV -> DP

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I heard a suggestion to read the questions first for reading comprehension, and then read the essay. I was wondering if anybody has tried this and found it effective to help improve?

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PrepTest A - Section 1 - Question 16

For this one I was able to gather my information to see how I could even weaken this argument. Automatically Bruno was accused of being the spy. In my process of reading this question type, I was automatically thinking of an AC that would no longer make him the spy in question. AC A gave that set up exactly. Although I was able to figure this question type out, I am wondering if there is a quicker approach for weakening/strengthening question types that could help me. I felt like I could've answered this one quicker than I did, so anything helps!

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According to LSAC a ton of people have signed up for October. I've been checking and refreshing to sign up for a seat in a testing center. I'm required to test at a testing center because I'm taking it pen/paper. I've searched for slots all over my state and even into the next closest state but it's not showing any availability. LSAC gave me Prometric's phone number. I've called and been disconnected every time. I called LSAC and they're like, meh, we can't help you, call them back. It's so frustrating. When I asked them point blank if I'm guaranteed a spot if I've paid and sign up they say no, that it's first come, first serve. And I asked them if, worst case, I don't get a spot, will I get my money back, they said no. How is that possible? Like you can't give a company your money and be denied the product? I will continue to refresh but LSAC sucks.

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Okay, I have been working w SA questions since the end of August now, ( I am an undergrad student so doing this on top of classes is ass), and I feel like I am really missing something. I am missing more than half on some of these PS, and even during BR, I don't catch my errors. Does anyone have any advice on how to get the fundamental patterns of SA questions engrained in my head? Or even just how to go about re-visiting the foundations of SA questions (I feel like the video examples aren't too helpful in this section)

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I was confused between answer choices A and E for this one.

Is A incorrect because it leaves out the part about researchers being puzzled by how kinglets are able to survive cold winter nights? I was trying to figure out if answer choice A had any descriptive/factual errors, but I couldn't find any, so I'm guessing the problem is that it doesn't address the fact that scientists are trying to figure out the mechanisms behind the birds' survival.

That seems to be the only difference between A and E.

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I'm consistently spending too much time reading the passages. I'm pretty confident when going through the questions and I answer them quickly, but my timing issues while reading/sketching the structural outline of the passage foreclose my opportunity to reach the fourth passage, which forces me to guess on all the questions on the final passage. I only refer back to the passage for questions referencing specific line numbers, and my structural outline is normally around 3-7 words per paragraph (sometimes a few more depending on subparagraph breaks).

What sort of drills can I do to cut down my reading time?

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Greetings Friends,

I am really stuck on comparative passages. Every other passage I am solid on and rarely get any wrong, once the comparative show up I will get -3,-4 on that passage alone and completely screw up my RC section. Any tips to get better at them? Going through and answering questions based on passage A does not work for me.

Thanks,

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Hey all,

The weakening section is making me really frustrated and I'm starting to panic because I'm just not consistent. I'm even missing some of the "easy" 1/5 difficulty questions. On the most recent example I still cannot understand why the answer I selected is wrong and the correct answer is right.

The problem in question is LR Weakening lesson 13/21, PT32 S1 Q12 "Polar Bear Navigation"(https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/animal-navigation-weaken-question/?ss_completed_lesson=994). I selected E because the argument's context defines navigation as returning to familiar territory without using the five senses._ This shows that the animal wasn't "navigating" as defined in the arg, but doesn't contradict the premise that the polar bear did return home-- it just contradicts that this shows it was navigating. How is this possibly an incorrect weakener?

Answer B was correct, which states that the location 300 miles away was actually along the polar bear's normal migration route. This makes sense as a weakener, because it shows that the return route wasn't actually unfamiliar. However, in my mind this required an assumption on directionality. Why would this mean the polar bear would return home, and not to the other endpoint of the migration route? To me this was too big of an assumption to make and so I eliminated this answer choice. Why is this not too big of an assumption to make?

Thanks so much for your time! Really struggling with weakening even though my scores are fairly good, almost always -5 on LR.

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I've been working on my RC, and it's gotten better but I keep getting inference questions wrong. I get around a -8 on RC and 3 of those are usually inference questions. So far, I just keep practice drilling, but does anyone have any tips on how they handle inference questions? Or any advice on how to improve?

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I totally don't understand this question. Need help and let me know if I read correctly.

Stimuli provides: certain peculiarities are used unconsciously, and if used by more than 1 poet, it represents common usage; if used by only 1 poet, then its unique trait which plays as "fingerprint" allowing the scholars to identify the poem of that poet.

Q stem asks to choose the proof from ACs that goes against the stimuli.

(A) - wrong : didn't like "labor"

(B) - don't understand so I'll leave it

(C) - this was correct AC but I don't get it: well, if such peculiarity was not unique to that author, then doesn't it suggest that it could be the commonly used language among other poets as provided in the stimuli?

(E) - thought this was the correct answer; if peculiarities are used "conscious" (by other poets) even if it is supposed to be unique in other poems, then it would make the scholars hard to identify

Can someone explain?

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Please help advise...

I took the January 2023 LSAT for the first time, got a 162, and cancelled my score. I took the LSAT for a second time in September and managed to score TWO points WORSE than the January LSAT. The September test was a bit of a fluke for me as I panicked and really got in my head during the exam, even though I had felt much more prepared.

I am registered for the October 2023 exam and am keeping that score no matter what.

So, do I cancel my September LSAT and have 2 cancellations on my record? I am planning to submit all my law school applications before Nov 1st (when October scores come out), so they will either hold my file if I only have cancelled LSATs, or they'll judge my file based on a 160 LSAT which is MUCH lower than any of my target school averages. I want to get into a T-14 school and know my LSAT will already be on the low end, but I feel confident based on my PT scoring that I can get above 166, at least.

I have to decide before October 3rd if I'm cancelling my September score or keeping it.. I really appreciate anyone's help!

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The passage touches on the actual definitons of home and house and how physical location does not affect those definitions. I don't understand how it could not be "D"

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