I was just wondering if anyone has any suggestions on how to improve on logic games. The problem is that I can usually only solve 2 LG within the 35 minute time limit and have trouble solving the more difficult 2 even without a time limit. I've been using the suggested method of printing out blank copies and repeating the game. After I've watched the video I can almost always solve the problem the first time within 6 minutes and get 100%. I feel like although this method works for a lot of people it's not all that helpful for me. Maybe I've been doing it wrong? Also I've been practicing and getting my hands on as many logic games as I can. Any advice on another method to improve would be great!!

For RC, do you guys blind review by reading the stimulus and going through the questions? Or do you just forget blind review, and go straight to J.Y. explanations? Or both?

I saw someone make this comment on the discussion board.

"All I can say is that one full month with your full concentration on 7sage 10 hours a day will actually improve your LSAT score by at least 20 points. Ask around and you will confirm my statement."

Thoughts?/Any actually experience this kind of jump?

Hi Guys,

I've been progressing in 7sage at roughly a topic per day with 87 days until the actual test. I only have the basic plan. The first thing it tells you to do is to take the 2007 test..Should I use this as a baseline or my score of 132 when I took a PT the first time without any prep at all. I'm not sure how to access other PTs on this site, but what rate should I be doing PTs? One a week, more or less? If you know how to access PTs here or through another method please tell me how.

Also, is there any place on this site where we can practice certain sections and if so how do I access it? If not, what supplemental material would you recommend (books, website, etc)

I just posted something very similar in the course so I apologize if this is considered spammy, but I hoped it might be more visible here.

Something I've been really trying to improve upon is getting rid of wrong answer choices quickly. I watch JY do it in the videos and know that being able to adopt this skill is crucial to cutting down on time. I'm not talking about when something is factually out-of-left-field or an obvious conditional reversal, but more when the first part of an answer choice is not enough to make it right, but may have additional information that doesn't make it wrong and hence shouldn't be eliminated. I have no trouble understanding why he will cross off an idea--I do see why it's not fully correct--I just can't seem to nail down when you know that it's sufficient information to be able to eliminate it and look at other answer choices.

This came up most recently on PT 34, 2 #23, a LR MBT question. Basically, the first part of the correct answer choice did not provide information that would make it the credited response. It was simply irrelevant. So how do you know when something is irrelevant vs. absolutely wrong?

I guess this will be more of an issue on some types of questions more than others and so I can focus on some type-specific strategies, but I have seen this on main point questions in RC, which is where I WOULDN'T expect to see it. I can't think of any specific instances at the moment, but I feel like I've seen a couple correct main point questions include a little detail that really isn't crucial to the main idea, but the rest of the choice is a perfect match and the other answer choices are very clearly wrong.

Similarly, I get why JY might immediately eliminate a answer choice that is asking you to make an inference off of a necessary condition, but I'm just afraid that the answer choice might either make this detail irrelevant or say something like *you can't conclude anything about this* at the end. I know this will occur much less frequently than it won't, but I know a big weakness of mine is eliminating all answer choices and panicking. (I'm getting better at rereading the question stem to make sure I didn't miss a crucial detail and if not, just skipping it, but I'd still like to just avoid this in general.) I've been contemplating making different notations for answer choices that are straight up wrong or have something wrong enough that I don't like it and moved on without finishing it so that if I do get into this situation, I don't have to revisit all answer choices, and can also study where I'm doing this correctly/incorrectly in BR, but other than that, I'm stuck.

I understand that with practice I will see more patterns and develop more confidence, but I feel like there is some strategy here and would appreciate your thoughts!

Just wondering if everyone does it this way and if it is superior to reading the passage then the question

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Can someone clarify this to me? What is the difference between a position and a conclusion? If someone could just sum up what JY is mentioning, that would be great! :)

I was looking at the locked content to see what I would gain access to if I were to upgrade to the ultimate course pack when I noticed that PTs 36-45 are unlocked for those with the premium package. I have the premium package but they are locked for me. Any help would be much appreciated.

Preptest 65 is the latest test I have on my 7sage account. For those who have done later lsats, are there are any new question types on the later lsats?

I have plenty of older tests to review, but I'm wondering if I would be missing anything if I never see preptests newer than 65.

I am taking the September LSAT and have recently been hitting some extremely high scores, and my question is basically as it says on the tin, what can I do to ensure that these scores hold to test day? What sort of study methods should be used as regards maintenance and atrophy prevention?

After finishing the course syllabus I took my first timed lsat in months and scored in my target range with the BR much higher. Since then I have taken 3-4 more PTs and have fallen each time until the latest PT which is the lowest I've scored since before 7 sage. I am signed up to take the Sep test and was feeling very confident after my initial PT/BR but after these last few tests I'm feeling very discouraged and depressed at the lack of consistency/improvement. What do I do?!

I don't know about you guys, but I feel that the LSAT has taught me sooo much, knowledge that I would never have acquired without writing this test, from diverse fields such as literature, arts, science, etc. The best thing though, is that I actually retain these information, most likely due to the fact that I have to actively think about and reflect upon the information I read, and as a result my head retains it, as opposed to boring school stuff that I quickly forget because my brain was not actively processing them or simply trying to remember without thinking.

But of course the validity and truthfulness of the information presented in LSAT is a necessary assumption in order for my claim to be made. Imagine if all the stuff are just made up, how embarrassing would it be when I try to show off my knowledge in front of my friends :p

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Especially the dreadmaster's course books I paid a G for. Gonna make a nice, big, fire.

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Probably the majority of us seeing this discussion forum have not taken the LSAT before, but, do you have any special advice, experience, do's and don´ts that you would like to share regarding LSAT test day?

Has anyone taken free mock lsats at a university? Did they use an approved practice test? Did you find the experience useful?

I like that JY recommends - answering questions that are just about passage A before even reading passage B (to prevent mixing up info in passages).

BUT - here's my question.... I encountered a Comparative Passage on a PT where there were NO questions just about A. There was at least 1 question on passage B....

In a case like that, should I read passage B first, answer the questions on B, then proceed with Passage A?

I tried it that way and it didn't go so well... but it could have been due to other factors.

I just purchased the Premium version of 7sage and received an e-mail confirming that my card had been charged, however I do not have access to the premium tools, only the free version that the website thinks I am enrolled in. It keeps telling me to upgrade. Can anyone help me out? Seems that this has happened to other people before.

Logical reasoning is absolutely destroying my LSAT scores- i'm only getting like 60-70% of the questions correct. Im having trouble with FLAW, MSS in particular. I have re-watched and re-did all the tutorials and it hasn't seemed to help. Any tips or tricks will be greatly appreciated. :)

Looking at all my practice test, this is where I have the most trouble at.

That's a lie.

For anyone who is struggling with logic games and feels like they'll just never get it -- stick with it. It's going to be painful for a little while, a few days, maybe even a week or two, but if you go through the fire, eventually you'll wake up on morning and realize the games get easier and easier.

I suck at weaken questions too, but I suck even more at strengthen questions.

One of the problems is, I tend to try to focus on the error in the passage, so sometimes I fall for the weakening answers which addresses the error(this is especially true for strengthen EXCEPT questions)...

Another problem is, strengthening is so hard to do! Sometimes I think an answer choice blocks a potential assumption and thereby strengthens, but later I learn that apparently the answer was entirely irrelevant. And sometimes I pick an answer choice which I really think strengthens the argument but apparently it's irrelevant too.

Hi-

Anyone have a sense of general order of difficulty for RC passages ---- And/Or a strategy based on that?

ie If the 3rd or 4th passage tends to be most difficult, then save to the end...

or if the Comparative passages are most difficult and have fewer questions, then save to the end...

Thoughts?