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7sage as a learning platform and the community have helped me out so much in my own LSAT journey, so I just wanted to share a bit about that journey so others can find comfort in going through similar lows and see that it can all end up alright.

Took my diagnostic in December 2023 (with games) and got a 150 and was absolutely crushed. I'm still an undergrad and have done well in school so far, so to say that shook my confidence in my own intelligence and capacity to be a successful attorney is an understatement. I know others have started with lower diagnostics, but it was stilling crushing for me.

I did a prep class through my university from January to April that certainly helped, but even taking a lighter credit load I found I was too busy to really dedicate the time necessary to make the jump I wanted on this test. May was when the grind really started and I pulled the trigger and bought a 7sage subscription and . . . that changed everything. Drilling and actually learning how to BR/review my wrong answers for the first time totally changed how I studied. Part of the issue with my university prep class was we were never really shown how to review wrong answers, which I think is the absolute most important part of studying for this test. Within about two weeks of drilling/BRing on 7sage, my average score jumped by about 4-5 points.

I spent the rest of the summer grinding away without seeing too much progress until I saw a random decline in my scores over the course of two weeks. I ended up taking a week off from studying, which felt really counterintuitive at the time but I quickly realized was the right decision. My scores jumped back up and I felt well rested. I also broke 170 for the first time soon after, which really gave me confidence going into the test.

Which brings me to the test itself. I didn't 100% master the LSAT (inasmuch as that's possible) - I spent most of June-late July PTing around 160mid, with one blip at 170. That test, and the actual test itself on Aug 10, involved quite a bit of luck. During both tests my mind felt uncharacteristically clear and I saw through stimuli and answer choices faster and more accurately than I ever had before.

I'm happy that I got a 170 on August, but it also feels slightly hollow because I've seen so many people on this and other forums in similar spots that just got a little unlucky on the test and scored lower than their averages (I didn't get the crazy experimental LR or RC sections everyone is talking about for example). Which isn't to say that my score is only attributable to luck - it tooks eight months of grinding to build my skills to a point where I had the chance of seeing the test the way I did on August 10.

Anyways, here are what I see as takeaways from my journey others could benefit from:

  • There's certainly an element of luck to the LSAT (hence the inclusion of the Score Band), so don't stop grinding if you scored lower than you wanted on this test (or on a recent PT for those of you pushing for Sept and Oct).
  • Fluctuations in PT score / performance are super normal.
  • If you're feeling burned out, TAKE A BREAK! Especially in the week leading up to the test. You've already done the work, no amount of cramming in the last few days is going to radically boost your score, but burnout and fatigue can certainly TANK it.
  • Misc Info

    My PT Progression: 150 (Diagnostic), 154, 156, 154, 160 (once I decided to stop studying for games), 155, 161, 161, 162 (first PT w 7sage), 162, 166!, 165, 164, 165, 166, 160, 159, 167, 170, 161, 166, 170 (actual thing).

    Here's a link to a master list of flaws I made: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WmcrEgcgSKbEilV70O8FEiVq_a1AHwCSfxfj_cuhznw/edit?usp=sharing

    Cheers and best of luck studying. On to the admissions grind!

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    Last comment monday, sep 02 2024

    Consistency

    I've been studying for the LSAT for a almost half a year now, and on PTs I've been consistently scoring in the high 160s. I've noticed a pattern on all of my tests where I usually do extremely well on one or two sections (talking -1/-2) and then bomb the third section. I fear that stamina and consistency are my issue more than a skill issue. Are there any tips on increasing consistency/accuracy? (especially RC which is the section I've noticed the most fluctuation in my score anywhere from -2 to -6).

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    Hey 7Sagers,

    I just wanted to make this post to tell everyone that there is hope for everyone to make it, including those who don't start off with a decent diagnostic score. My diagnostic score was a 137, my final (PT) score was a 156, and my final (test day) score was a 154.

    I understand that this isn't a 170+ score, but I think that it's worth mentioning since it's a nearly 20 point increase.

    I started studying in May of 2022 and finished in January of 2024. People say that you can't expect for your score to change much from your diagnostic, but I just wanted to say that it did for me, meaning it can and will for you too.

    I self-studied using 7Sage and Loophole. I also used 7Sage Tutoring, which really helped me with RC, as that's the section I struggled most with.

    I've struggled a lot with wondering if I'm good enough or smart enough for law school, and now I am a JD candidate at a Canadian law school.

    If you have any questions, I'd be happy to answer them.

    I believe in you!

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    Last comment monday, sep 02 2024

    168 realistic?

    I took the June LSAT with ZERO studying and no accommodations, just to see how I would do with logic games before they were gone forever and got a 161.

    I’ve completed all the lesson videos and done a handful of drills, but haven’t really had time to take an actual practice test.

    I take the September LSAT this Thursday and am really hoping I don’t have to retake in November.

    So I’m wondering is a 7 point jump realistic now that I’ve studied and have accommodations for time and a half?

    I think as long as I get a 165 I won’t be completely crushed, but obviously I just want to be done.

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    I have clicked on the Section in the Test and am able to click on Printable. However, I do not get the buttoon to download a PDF version. I am taking the test on Paper and would liike to practice that way.

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    Hi, so I have a Wrong Answer Journal and I now have around 162 questions that I have jotted down for LR

    I’m wondering how I can go about efficiently redoing these questions being that there is soo many other questions I have not done yet that I may even get wrong after a PT.

    I'm just overwhelmed with trying to redo them and getting them right the next go around. And the more drills and PT I do the more I add creating a backlog. Any tips?

    #help

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    Last comment saturday, aug 31 2024

    Should I keep my score?

    I took the August LSAT and received a score back today lower than was hoped or expected. I’m registered for October as well and I know I can do so much better than I did. Should I keep my score so law schools can see the progress made or is it better not to report it so that they don’t judge me based off that score?

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    Hi everyone,

    I'm currently scoring around the 170 area in PTs, and I'm trying to come up with ways to improve. I think the biggest issue is a mix of silly mistakes + getting wrong on the tough questions for LR. I've been taking a PT roughly every week and have been BR-ing and reviewing thoroughly. I was wondering if anyone who was in a similar position found any drilling strategies or study strategies in general effective for improving from 170 onward. Any help would be appreciated!

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    Last comment friday, aug 30 2024

    When to apply?

    Hi, I just took my August LSAT and I like my score, however, I will be taking it again in October. I was wondering if anyone has any insight on when is a good deadline to have my applications in by.

    I also know that some people are offered fee waivers to apply to specific schools by those schools. Is there anything people do in particular to be offered those?

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    I’ve been stuck studying the LSAT for about 9 months now. I wasn’t preforming well the first 6 with the programs had so I switched to 7sage I’ve been PT’ing in the mid- high 140’s and definitely seen some improvement. However my goal is to break 150’s and apply in the fall. What are some tips/tricks yall have used to get you over that time edge? I have already registered for October and I plan on having that be my last exam since I’ll be working/studying for other exams.

    Another concern of mine is this exam and being admitted. I’m not shooting for the stars and the schools I have are in the T100 region. I have all my other credentials in line such as a high gpa (Accounting 3.9), great LOR, and a lot of internship experience. The calculator seems to think I have a decent chance lol but was wondering if anyone has insight? Thanks.

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    Hi all!

    Sorry to bother but I really want to ask what I should do if I want to visit a law school and visit a class in the law school. I know I can register a tour from their websites. However, a lot of law schools I want to visit do not provide chances to register for visiting a class.

    I really want to visit a class and what should I do? Thank you so much if you guys can give me some suggestions!

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    Sometimes in flaw questions, I realize that the flaw is an incorrect negation (e.g. a --> b, ~a-->~b), however the answer choice will not explicitly say "incorrect negation"

    Is one regular way of describing the conditional flaw of "incorrect negation" that "the argument assumes that the only way to get to 'b' is 'a'" or "fails to see that a is not the only condition to get to 'b'?"

    I'm trying to see if i properly understand PT 49 - s4 #23

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    Mainly the title but to add some context: most of the questions I get wrong I simply just misinterpreted the stimulus, whenever I watch a explanation video for a question I just didn't understand it always comes back to "I did not understand what I just read". To help with this I am actively reading on the side every day but if there is anything else I am missing please let me know. Furthermore, my analytics do not really show a pattern of question type that I am absurdly getting wrong. I have made study plans focusing on question types that I am not extremely confident with but I am wondering if I just need to take more tests or review the CC?

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    Hey everyone! I am hosting LR Kahoot tonight and LR jeopardy on Sunday night for anyone who wants to come join. We will also be hosting more in the future. Comment your discord and I'll add you to the group.

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    I'm writing about a very niche topic, and I'm including a short background paragraph in my essay. Do I need to/should I include a citation for this information? My gut is saying no, but if it's information that didn't come directly from me I don't want to end up plagiarizing.

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    Do you use the highlighter tool in the digital tester? Do you always use the same colors to highlight premises and conclusions? If so, then boy is this the poll for you!

    We're working on a new feature for our explanation pages, and your input will help us make it better for you. Please respond to the poll, the comments, or both.

    Bonus question for the comments: what do you highlight?

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