Anyone find the LSAT Trainer's notation of Logic Games (especially the characteristics and categories chapter) a little redundant? I'm wondering if I should just skip these chapters...any thoughts?

Hey guys,

I'm stressed over this decision. I just want to hear opinions. I took the LSAT twice. 156 and 167. The rest of my credentials are good, but it looks like it is true that the LSAT is the most important factor.

I'm wait listed at multiple T14 schools. I've gotten everything from Full tuition at regional schools to 60k scholarship at a T25 school. However, even with full tuition there is quite a lot of debt from living expenses.

I'm really nervous about the job market. I think I want to work in a big law firm. It's possible with some of the schools that I got into, but it also comes with a load of debt and still not fantastic chances. I think that the Law School prep can help me get good grades, but it is no guarantee. Should I risk trying to get top 15% or just retake the LSAT?

Should I retake the LSAT if I am confident I can score 172+? I did score in the 170's a few times right before I took the real thing, and I know that test day was not my best.

I don't want to delay going to law school, but I also don't want to look back 3 years from now and wish I went to a t14 school with less debt. And the way everything is going, it looks like the coming years are going to be rough on law schools, students, and the job market.

What do you guys think?

I'm just curious to know what are people's schedule for the June LSAT. Maybe we can use this thread as a way to see everyone's schedule such as for those that study 40+ hours, those that work & implement lsat prep, those that are still in undergrad/grad school & manage studying for the LSAT. This may be helpful for everyone retaking in June and needs motivation to get back into study mode.

I'd thought it would be great if we got a retakers thread started for this upcoming June Test. What are some things you are planning to do differently? Study materials, schedules, etc.

I underperformed by a lot from my PT average so June it is...

EDIT: I would like to use this thread for June prep so we don't crowd up all the entries. :P

Hey all,

I purchased the Premium package a few days ago and I just finished the June 07 LSAT but for some reason my account is denying me access now that I want to go back and review the score and answers. All of the lessons from the June 07 LSAT link including the video explanations are now locked and highlighted in yellow. I tried logging in and out a few times but its still the same. What could be the problem?

Thanks,

Matt

Rather than falling under the category of comments, could 7Sage implement a highlighting system that colours what is a question comment from just a comment, or separate out questions from recent comments for people who need questions answered in the lessons? Comments fill the recent comment box resulting in questions receiving belated answers, unless someone actively looks for them after each lesson/question or happens to come across one while doing their lesson.

Guys ... If you are ever in need of mild amusement ... Just search for the #lsat hashtag on Instagram. Lots of Kaplan/Barron's/Pton Review pics and "OMG #LogicalReasoning is so easy!!! #$1500CramCourseDayOne Thanks Dad #FutureLawyer"

Dying right now. I can't.

Okay, this may sound random. In group one it goes

Ex: "All Jedi use the force"

J -> F

/F -> /J

Group 2 goes:

Ex: "Only the good die young"

D -> G

/G -> /D

Why in group two does it go right to left on top versus left to right like group one?

Did i miss something in the videos?

I recently got into a top 25 law school for Fall 2015 entering class, which is a good regional school. I also am a resident of that state, so I would get lower tuition.

I took the LSAT twice (1st score: 157, 2nd score: 161), but my practice tests had been around 165-167 range, and I was studying while working full time. I am not sure what my true potential is. I am wondering if it would make sense for me to try to retake the LSAT again this coming June, hoping for a score in the 170s, and then delay entering law school for another year so that I can get into a T10 school….OR just start going to school starting this Fall. Note that I’m 35 years old, and already having a professional career, so time isn’t really on my side. I'm trying to balance the advantages of cheaper tuition at a reasonable school, against the possibility of opening up more options by going to a higher ranking school, but waiting an extra year.

If it is worth it to consider retaking the June 2015 LSAT and waiting another year to enter law school, my follow up question would then be, how can I get a good personal assessment of my true potential score, with enough study and practice, and what score is worth retaking for?

Thanks in advance for you any advice!

Arguments welcome. You can simply say yes or no. I think the "yes" case is harder to make.

I am a mother of two, and it's just us three; I work forty hours a week, and about 1.5 yr away from completing my undergrad. I'm taking the LSAT this June. Obviously my study time is limited, but I am using any free time I can manage to get to study, and so far for a couple of months I have just been reading the LSAC guide to the LSAT and Superprep book. I've taken two PTs, and am not happy with my score, I definitely want a boost of at least 10 points. What exactly am I to be studying? Surely it's more than the guides to the LSATs, what can I be studying and practicing? Do I just take PTs over and over for the practice? I have two more PTs left on me that I have not taken, where can I get more? Considering my situation it is a little difficult to get a solid "schedule" in, I spend a vast amount of time studying/reading, but this also includes my undergrad school work, while my kids sleep, so that is a few hours each night. I think I should start waking up an hour early in the mornings to study, but that's just one extra hour a day, I guess some is better than none. Any advice please? Most importantly, I need to know what exactly I should be looking at to study or practice...thanks in advance.

@emli1000 now THIS is what I was talking about!!!

Can anyone quickly tell me if "for" is a logical indicator word?

Forgive me if this has been addressed previously, but I am looking for guidance in regards to a GPA Addendum. During undergrad, I had a couple things happen that had a part in my low GPA. The two most pronounced were a family tragedy and working many many hours in a family business to help overcome that loss of my father. I also have several instances that I can mention where my true ability as a student was evident when my life finally settled down towards the end of college. Right now, my rough draft is 2 pages double spaced. This feels odd because my personal statement is going to be required to be the same length. Can an addendum be too long? Any other advice would be greatly appreciated.

Hi all 7sagers.

I will take my first LSAT in June and just finished all the course today. Finishing the course, I have few simple questions that who took any tests find very small, but fairly important for the first test takers. It would be very nice of you to share your test knowledge with me :) Thanks!

1. They said only a zip bag is allowed in the test center. So will there be some place to put my cell phones, bags, and other personal belongings in the test center outside of the actual test room? or should I leave everything in my car?

2. I bought a LSAT watch last week, thinking wow this is such a good tool for timing. Then today I saw the post JY saying that it is not kosher. Does it still hold? I quickly searched on this issue on the Internet, and people seem to agree on that it is okay to use LSAT watch on the test day. Does anyone know for sure?

"The statement above, if true, most strongly support which one of the following?"

I can never tell if I should answer this as a strengthening question or as a MSS question. Could someone better explain how to approach this type of question stem?

There will be a study group to BR PT 41 tomorrow at 7 pm eastern time. If you would like to join please let me know so that I can add you to our Skype study group.

Hi all!

I am crunching through the logic game bundle, and wondering if it is worth mastering a few of the strange/old questions that JY mentions we will no longer find on the new LSAT? I understand that I can sit, and probably reason / learn my way to the right answer, but I figure I'd rather spend 20-30 minutes on trying to cover ground (deeply) and gather more experience on different inferences / game setups.

I am thinking that it is more worth my time to crunch through and master the ones that are representative of the logic games we will find on the new LSAT.

Thoughts?

Currently I am drilling LR questions and games questions after classifying them into categories and questions types.

For the purpose of perfecting my logic, i review my LR questions with my blind review method, yet from time to time during the process of reviewing i am not exactly sure if i am memorizing the content of questions or getting to get familarized with logic present in those questions. In other words while i am jotting down the analysis of stimulus and the reasons why other answer choices are wrong, I keep thinking if this review is dissecting the logic or dissecting the specific content of stimulus which seem like basically the same thing during the review process.

Have you ever got the feeling of just memorizing questions when you do the review?

In my BR review, I've discovered a few patterns and I'd like some input as to how I should go about fixing them.

In LR, I noticed that I make a lot of mistakes because I misunderstood something or didn't fully grasp a key term.

In RC, I have problems understanding what the question is asking me to do. On several occasions, I've found myself fully understanding a passage, only to spend more than half the time trying to figure out what the questions are referring to/asking of me.

In LG, I'm having timing issues. I can usually complete the game with a perfect score untimed, but almost never complete it under time constraints. Any suggestions on improving?

I was wondering if we could upload our study guides in this post for those taking the June and upcoming LSATs can always come back to this.

I have the Cambridge sets and I wanted to know where I could find the written explanations for these questions? Thanks.

I'm just wondering if anyone else on here is ESL and struggling with the intensity of the LSAT in regards to the grammar, style, vocab, etc. If so, do you have tips, tools, or materials that you'd recommend?

I don't get it. No matter my score and no matter the overall difficulty of the section, I almost always miss difficulty-3's over 4's and 5's (even in higher proportions and not just raw numbers). Is anyone else having this problem? I assume my radar is ever stronger on the questions that are clearly more difficult.