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Hi Everyone!

Head’s up: later this month, LSAC is doing a system-wide upgrade that will affect some of their online services. It will begin at 5 p.m. ET on Friday, December 22, and is expected to end at around 5 p.m. ET on Saturday, December 23. During these 24 hours, certain LSAC services, including candidates’ online accounts on LSAC.org and LawReady, will be offline.

During this time, people will be unable to complete transactions such as registering for a future LSAT, submitting fee waivers or accommodation requests, accessing their accounts, or submitting applications.

Services on LawHub.org will remain available during the upgrade window. Scheduling for the January 2024 LSAT will continue through Prometric. However, information on candidate accounts will not be updated until the upgrade is completed.

If you have any further questions, you can contact LSAC via https://lsac.zendesk.com/, email them at lsacinfo@lsac.org, or call them at 215.968.1001.

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🔢 I'm currently scoring: 160-165

📆 My planned test date: February 2024

📈 To study, I have been: Have been studying for several months now. My studying has consisted of different methods throughout.

🔑 My goals for this group are: Help each other out with our respective goals. Whether you are new to studying or have been studying for months such as myself, I hope that this space can be used so that we can collaboratively help one another achieve our objectives.

🔍 We'll focus on: Anything and everything!

👥 Study Group Name: TBD

📚 When we'll meet and what we'll do: All messaging and meetings are done via Discord, but time is totally up to the availability of those in the group, it is fluid.

✅ How to join: Feel free to click on the link below to join the server via Discord, and please do message me if you are having any issues either joining the group or creating a Discord account. Like I said above, this group is open to all, from beginners to long-time studiers. I just hope that this study group can help each and every person in it and that we can use this group not only to learn and improve our studying, but also where we can reliably hold each other accountable as we get closer to the test date(s).

https://discord.gg/dkVdVXqWrc

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Hello everyone,

I would appreciate it if you could provide insight into some potential questions I have received from various applicants with similar/repeated questions. Here they are:

If an applicant has gone to 3 academic institutions: two in US/Canada and one outside US/Canada, will all 3 transcripts be included in LSAC's GPA? It's worth noting that one institution attended outside US/Canada had a 4.0 GPA grading scale with a US/Canadian-based curriculum.

A course was taken twice/repeated. The transcript shows both grades along with course credit however the 1st attempt is marked as an "extra" course meaning while it does have a credit shown, its credit value is equivalently 0 as it does not count towards the institution's cGPA calculation. Hence, would the 1st attempt need to be mentioned/ will count towards LSAC's GPA calculation?

Would meeting a law school's 75th percentile GPA allow you to get in if you meet its 25th percentile LSAT score? Kinda like a reverse splitter per se.

Thank you :)

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Hello 7Sagers!

I'm looking for some tips to help improve my reading comprehension score. I am currently scoring around -12 which is of huge concern given I take my second LSAT in January. While practice is, of course, key to improving my RC score, I need to see lots of improvement in a relatively short amount of time. At present, I seem to be struggling the most with my speed. I take too long answering the questions, which indicates to me that I need to spend more time analyzing the passage. Perhaps some tips on low resolution summaries might help? Any insights would be greatly appreciated!

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Good Afternoon everyone!

I have my LR down to -4 on average but am not confident in SA and NA questions no matter how much I practice. Any tips on how to do them without diagramming? I get more confused when I diagram and do not find it helpful in the least.

Thanks!

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Okay so I have gotten above a 170 twice now, (171 and 176), which is cool and fun when I see the score, but should I pay attention to them in analytics? My average score is a 162, and with the exception of those two scores I haven't broken 165 in any of the 20 tests I've taken.

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Hi. I am an admission consultant specializing in college and graduate school admission for international students. I have dealt with many students from China. I think it is helpful to address a few talking points I see posted on forums on why international applicants have a disadvantage when applying to American law schools.

  • "Schools don't like international students because they may not have the ability to cover their tuition." Universities at both the undergraduate and graduate levels do not know whether international applicants can cover their tuition when they review their applications. They are mandated by immigration authorities to require international students to submit proof of financial support to their international student services. Chinese international students I worked with usually provide a bank deposit as proof. This process is necessary for them to obtain the F-1 document, which the U.S. Customs and Border Protection will review upon arrival. International students with the required funds do not need to worry about this factor.

  • "Schools don't know how to interpret transcripts from non-American institutions." This one is tricky. I find that international students tend to have a lower undergraduate GPA than domestic students. Universities outside the U.S. might not have the same grading system or the same kind of academic standards. Sometimes the school just gives out Bs and Cs like candies. So it is hard to say whether transcripts might be a factor.

  • "International students tend to have weaker applications." It is plain and simple. If you have weak qualifications, it will probably hurt your chances. But be careful not to make it about the applicant being international. A low LSAT score is just a low LSAT score. It has nothing to do with their citizenship status.

  • "International students statistically fare worse than American students in the admission process." Again, please do not draw causal inferences based on correlations. Schools do not apply a higher level of scrutiny when reviewing international applications. It is erroneous to say to an international applicant that they have a disadvantage just because data says they do.

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    Looking for a study buddy in Korea to polish games down to -0 & get LR/RC down to consistent -2 before June.

  • Sessions can be offline or online, but someone who's in the same time zone(or, yknow, somewhere in Korea) is much preferred.

  • Sessions can be in either Korean or English, but strongly prefer someone comfortable with English.

  • Someone who broke into the 170s in their PTs at least once and aiming for 172+ would be ideal.

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    Working my way through the CC, and right now on LG. Should I do the board setup and questions before watching the videos? It feels more active learning to me that way whereas just watching the videos would be passive, but I also don't want to take on bad habits. Any advice?

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    Hi, please offer your advice! I have now finished LR and RC core lessons - I have no more lessons next. I have decided to take no LG August version, so still have -AMPLE- time to study. I am currently scoring in the low to mid 160's (last PT I scored a 164) and my dream score is 170+. I am extremely determined to get into a T6-T14 and have allocated the time to get my score where it needs to be.

    My question is - now that I have finished all the core curriculum... what's next? Should I focus on drilling LR and then RC, work on my problem areas, then begin regularly PTing? Should I switch to books, then go back to 7sage in a few months? I have the Loophole book ready to read. Should I wait to consistently PT until the beginning of Spring to save my tests for when I'm more ready and closer to test date? Should I be focusing on drilling everday? Redo the lessons?

    Really just asking what your next steps would be / what your study plan would look like. Any advice is helpful, thanks and good luck to you all!

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    Hey everyone,

    I am planning on taking the January 2024 LSAT. I have been studying for quite a while now, and am scoring in the range of 152-155. I recently just decided to purchase 7sage due to the overall positive results it has produced for students. I have been PT'ing using 7sage as well scoring within that range, however, I have been scoring between 166-168 on my blind reviews. Here are my averages for each section:

    LG: -6/-7 (-1/0 BR)

    LR: -9 (-5/-6 BR)

    RC: -10 (-5/-6 BR)

    One of my overarching issues is pacing. I can't seem to quite get to where I want to be given the time constraint. This usually forces me to skip a LG section, and forces me to miss a fair amount of questions on both RC and LR. Sometimes, depending of difficulty, I may skip a LG section while being about 50% on each answer for another.

    From all of this, I would just like to know what I should do going forward with studying. Should I go through 7sage's modules and work each section out? I work about 30 hours per week, and since my graduate classes are completed for the semester, that is really my only obligation as of now. My goal score is to get around a 160. Thank you so much!

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    🔢 I'm currently scoring: 165-170

    📆 My planned test date: February 2024

    📈 To study, I have been: Have been studying for several months now. My studying has consisted of different methods throughout.

    🔑 My goals for this group are: Help each other out with our respective goals. Whether you are new to studying or have been studying for months such as myself, I hope that this space can be used so that we can collaboratively help one another achieve our objectives.

    🔍 We'll focus on: Anything and everything!

    👥 Study Group Name: TBD

    📚 When we'll meet and what we'll do: All messaging and meetings are done via Discord, but time is totally up to the availability of those in the group, it is fluid.

    ✅ How to join: Feel free to click on the link below to join the server via Discord, and please do message me if you are having any issues either joining the group or creating a Discord account. Like I said above, this group is open to all, from beginners to long-time studiers. I just hope that this study group can help each and every person in it and that we can use this group not only to learn and improve our studying, but also where we can reliably hold each other accountable as we get closer to the test date(s).

    We have nearly 50 members in the group now and a nice community forming with daily meetings centered on LSAT studying, so always feel free to join, whether you are a beginner or have been studying for awhile!

    https://discord.gg/ddXuAgaF26

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    For this question I picked A, and then B for final. I now know that A is the right answer, but I want to be sure that I understand why I had gotten this wrong.

    For a short recap, Oscar's conclusion is "Thus a country's economic well-being will not be a function of its geographical position but just a matter of its relative success in incorporating those new technologies". Here I am thinking okay cool well-being is determined:

    Geographical Position --> Incorporating those new technologies

    Now for Sylvia, they counter this because they say that it is due to the poor country (the south as mentioned by Oscar), is not able to acquire the $$$ to incorporate the tech. They conclude by saying that it will only "widen the existing economic gap between north (rich) and south (poor)".

    So going into the questions, I chose B because I thought that since the poor countries didn't have $$$ for implementation that it would cause the gap. However, I see that A was right because widening the gap meant that the rich prolly wouldn't know how rich they were unless the poor were some amount of poor? However, what does "natural resources" in A mean? Could it mean economic? Oil? I believe that was a part of what tripped me up, but I believe another was the assumption that I made which didn't allow for me to truly grasp Sylvia's conclusion.

    Anyone have any suggestions when going into these questions? Or ways that I can improve in NA?

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    I am the vice president of my school's mock trial team. We are hosting a mock trial competition on Jan 13th and 14th at the Kline School of Law. We are still in need of judges for Rounds 3 and 4. Rounds 3 and 4 will run according to the following schedule:

    Round 3: Sunday, January 14th, 9:00 am - 12:30 pm

    Round 4: Sunday, January 14th, 2:00 pm - 5:30 pm

    If you are a former mock trialer/AMTA competitor and able to judge feel free to reach out or sign up using the sign up form below.

    https://forms.gle/uFPfzcmiNTceJrv28

    Feel free to DM/comment for questions

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    Hello All,

    I recently drilled this PT section. While I found the game to be pretty smooth, I was quite confused when I missed nearly all the questions on the first try, and 3 questions on the 2nd. I've located the issue to my interpretation of "3-hour block starting at 1pm." In JY's videos, this leads him up to 3:30 pm. But isn't that only 2 and a half hours? Although my game board is just like JY's in that we both have 5 slots, mine ends at 4pm. Because 1-4 is 3 hours? I'd appreciate further insight/ ways to avoid, or at least, finesse interpretation errors such as this one. I'm failing to see how "3 hour block starting at 1pm"could possibly go up to 3:30 no matter how its read. Thanks!

    Admin note: edited title; please use the format of "PT#.S#.Q# - [first set of words]"

    https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-65-section-2-game-4/

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    For this question, I was wondering why E is the wrong answer? Passage A and B endorse the same principles that lying is necessary in writing good narrative, but B says later they see it as unethical while A does not. Is it because the principle they are endorsing isn't exactly the same but applied to diff contexts (lying is necessary in historical vs. lying is necessary in autobiographical) and thus D is the right answer?

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    Hi new here to 7sage, I am taking the Jan test and am currently starting the cc for logic games, in regards to the videos is there anyone who is willing to share their personal notes from the videos so i can compare and make sure i am not missing anything important? i have extreme adhd so i tend to overlook or get distracted on important notes. i would perfer, and am currently looking for logic games video notes, however so willing to accept anything (333(/p)

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    PrepTest 94:

    I'm confused on how this was the correct answer choice (B) because Zobel's claim that Peterson’s analytic concepts are wrong and should be rejected was established, as he directly stated that in the first sentence. What makes a claim "established"?

    Admin Note: Edited title. For LR questions, please use the format: "PT#.S#.Q# - brief description of the question." Please also do not post the entire question and answer choices for the LSAC question; this is copyrighted content and is against the Forum Rules.

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    https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-27-section-4-question-07/

    I've watched JY's explanation and the only other forum post regarding this question, but I'm still not sure why my reasoning for B is incorrect.

    I understand the diagramming to be:

    P: know a lot about history —> easy to impress intellectuals

    C: /(know a lot about history) —> /(easy to impress intellectuals)

    I also understand this to be a case of:

    Invalid Argument Structure

    A —> B

    ———

    /A —> /B

    What doesn't make sense to me is I chose B though because I'm thinking it's possible

    (you could know a lot about history ---> /(easy to impress intellectuals)) or (A --> /B). I'm not sure if my reasoning is correct and it's just not appropriate in this situation because it fails step 2 of the flaw test or if something else about it is flat-out incorrect. Any feedback is appreciated. Thank you.

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    Bee -> sting once

    Sting once

    —————

    Bee

    A-> B

    B

    —————

    A

    A) Spring -> Sneeze nonstop

    Sneeze

    ——————

    Spring

    C) Old + brittle -> move with care

    /Move with care -> /Old + brittle

    Negation: Old + brittle -> Move w care (still valid argument whereas the stimulus is invalid).

    D) Only is G2

    Ruin roof -> more thunderstorm

    /Ruin roof -> /more thunderstorm

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