Hello 7sage community,

I have been studying for the LSAT for about 3.5 years. Normally, time standardized tests are one of my weaknesses. I have been using 7sage for the past 2.5 years and recently finished the core curriculum (CC) in July. Some of the reasons why it took me a while to finish the CC is because one of my professors and I are trying to publish a law article at the same time, and I work. Since my first practice test in July after completing CC, I have been able to raise my score from a 132 to a 144. Despite the progress, I am unsure of how to increase my score anymore. My desire score is a 156 on the LSAT by April of 2024. I want to concentrate on improving in LR and LG to achieve my target score. I recently bought “The Loophole” by Ellen Cassidy and intend to read it soon. And have been fool proofing logic games too. Is there anyone willing to be my study buddy, who is currently PTing in the 150s or higher, or is there any other advice that someone can give me to increase my score?

I started studying in September but had to pause mid-September to early November for work. I'm aiming for a 177-178, but I can only manage -1 on LG, -2 or 3 on LR, and -1 or 2 on RC and have been at that level for two weeks with no improvement. Should I just give up on January? I'd like to hear from people that have been able to get past a plateau.

stimulus :

"There can be a known known only if theres a known unknown, but there can never be an unknown unknown without a known unknown. Thus, every unknown unknown which is known is actually a known unknown which is unknown."

the conclusion above follows logically if which one of the following is assumed?

the content of this question is inspired by the "Rumsfeld Matrix." What would be a sufficient assumption for this question? Is this a hard question or did you find it on the easier end of SA questions?

Hey, I need some guidance.

In January I scored a 145 (self study for 6 month while working full-time) and I just scored 147 (using 7Sage studying for 5 months while working part-time). My desired school has an LSAT median score of 157 and I planed on applying before their February priority deadline. Should I take the LSAT again in January and apply past the priority deadline? In geanral any advice and suggestions is appreciated.

Hello all,

I have recently created a Discord server that can be used as a study group of sorts for upcoming test takers, primarily for those taking the test in January or February. Feel free to join whether you are a beginner or have been studying for awhile.

We will use this space not only to hold regular sessions to help out everyone along their studying journey, but also we have a messaging board that is open to all to use for whatever questions they may have.

Please feel free to join using the link below, and feel free to comment if you have any questions or issues when it comes to either joining the server link or making an account. I will be happy to help anyone out!

Hope to see you there.

https://discord.gg/bqtRtkDd

Does anyone have experience in getting their doctor's note for LSAT accommodations via a doctor from BetterHelp.com (the mental health program)?

Does anyone have suggestions of gift to say thanks to recommenders? I saw an old post suggesting a mug from the school you got into. Idk if I'd want to be on the receiving end of a mug from a random school lol

Hey everybody!

I've been thinking about this for a while, and I just re-watched the video on Contrapositive Mistakes, which has cemented my feelings. Do you know in Flaw questions where the answers will say something like, "Takes a necessary condition for an argument's being inadequate to be a sufficient condition for an argument's being inadequate"? Sometimes answer choices in Flaw questions really trip me up, and one thing that always confused me is: what's the difference between confusing sufficient for necessary as opposed to confusing necessary for sufficient? I read a forum on PowerScore about this that claimed that they are not the same, but to me, they are, because they are the contrapositive of each other.

Confusing Sufficient for Necessary

A---->B

A/----->/B

This is making the sufficient necessary because after you fail A you fail B, instead of the rule falling away as it's supposed to.

Confusing Necessary for Sufficient

A----->B

B------>A

Here it's taking the necessary condition and moving it to the sufficient, which is wrong.

But, isn't A/---->/B just the contrapositive of B---->A? And therefore, in Flaw questions that use this incorrect form of logical reasoning, wouldn't either answer choice (confusing necessary for sufficient OR sufficient for necessary) be correct? Has anybody else ever thought about this?

For both questions, the task is the same-look for the option will make the conclusion 100% true?

Today I received my first LSAT score and was very disappointed to learn that I only scored a 150. This is concerning given that my dream school is the University of Florida which has a median LSAT score of 169. I am taking my second LSAT in January, meaning I have 45 days until I take my next test. For the next 45 days I plan to take a practice test almost every day, so I know I will see a great improvement in my score. Given this information, should I cancel or keep my current LSAT score?

hi, guys!

if possible, i'm looking for some advice - thank you so much in advance :) i have taken the LSAT four times and canceled one of my scores last october due to extenuating circumstances.

for context: my fourth score, the nov. 2023 LSAT, is much lower (:/) than my highest score and i'm worried would put me in a disadvantageous position considering that i'm applying this application cycle, which i was planning to do in the next couple of days but hadn't expected this. considering that i already have one score cancellation on my record, do you think that also cancelling my nov. 2023 LSAT score would be harmful to my application?

any and all thoughts are appreciated!!!

I have plateaued at about 167-169 with a BR score about 10 points higher every time. My goal is to close this gap as much as possible before January by focusing on timing, process, and specific weaknesses. I'm debating whether to get a tutor, but thought I would throw this out there to see if anyone is in a similar position and is interested in studying?

Goals: Specifically work on timing, process hitches, and targeting specific weaknesses

Suggested Method: For at lease one PT each week (in the 70 - 80s) reviewing any timing issues, missed question or questions that took a long time, and addressing why and brainstorming how to fix.

Message me if you're interested in studying like this! I am open to doing whatever works best for folks, zoom/discord etc. I am a non-traditional applicant and work, but I have a pretty flexible schedule.

Thanks!

I did this question as part of a drill for the PAI section of the core curriculum. After reading the question 5 times I am starting to understand why the correct answer is correct. However, I really have to stretch my mind to have it make sense. I expect I am not seeing it from the correct angle. Can any of you all help me understand?

Thanks!

Hello all, any advice is appreciated! :)

My Nov. 2023 score is a 5 point drop from my Nov. 2022 score. As a result, I am contemplating writing an addendum explaining the drop in scores.

I prepared for the Nov. 2023 exam for close to a year but experienced technical glitches during the LG and fourth portion of the exam that made it difficult to focus. For reference, there was a white notification on the upper right corner of my screen that kept popping up, causing me to refocus my attention and attempt to exit out of it every time it came across my screen. After making it through LG, I attempted to just ignore it but it was still very distracting - I even asked the proctor for help and he said there was nothing he could do.

Given the drop, would you recommend an addendum explaining the situation? I take full accountability for not preparing myself better for an incident like this (tech glitches) but I thought it might be worth a shot.

Hello. I was wondering how many drills you all are doing when you reach the Drill at the end of a LR question type section. I just completed the PAI section and did two drills because I felt like I needed more practice.

Thanks!

I got a 152 on the November LSAT so I wanted to cancel it and retake in January, but I just realized that I missed the January deadline so now I dont know If i should still cancel my score and just retake in february, which seems too late in the cycle? Or if i should just take my chances and apply with a 152?

Hi, it's hard to find a straight answer as I'm seeing a lot of different info swirling around...

I'm taking the LSAT in Feb. I should get the results back by the very end of Feb. I have two applications due on March 1st. When it says the application is due on March 1st does that mean EVERYTHING is due on that date? As in, LORs, resume, writing assignments, transcripts, AND the LSAT score? In theory, if I got the LSAT score back on March 3rd is that okay or does it HAVE to be included in the application with everything else?

Hey all,

Just wanted to thank 7sage team and give a few words of advice that I hope will help someone out.

First off, the LSAT can't take over your life. Sometimes, you simply just have to stop thinking about the test. If you don't, you'll burn yourself out and perform poorly. I spent May through September cooped up in a small room studying for one too many hours/day and I suffered for it. Started living life a little bit in October and saw score increase of +5 on my PT's and on my actual exam. Of course this is not the only reason my score improved, but it is certainly one of them. Time away from the test is crucial for the learning process. Go for a walk. Play with your pets. Do anything but the LSAT.

For LR: Practice visualising every stimulus you see. This was the game changer for me. Visualising what you read leads to being engaged with the material which leads to an understanding of it. Do untimed practice questions until you are comfortable making a mental image of each stimulus you read. Just a heads up, this takes lots of practice. But if you master it, it is an extremely effective strategy.

For RC: Same advice as LR. Practice untimed passages and visualize every sentence you read. Your mental image of each sentence should allow you to understand it. Once you get good at that, read whole passages and visualize the main points of each paragraph (or at least something notable from the paragraph). This made me a MUCH more engaged test taker. I actually started finding the passages interesting once I started doing this.

For LG: Drill, drill, drill. There is no way around it. If you do logic games enough, you will rarely miss a question. I probably spent around 700 hours drilling logic games. Yes, it sucks but if you do it enough you'll rarely see a game that gives you any trouble. By the end of my prep, I was completing full sections in around 25 minutes and scoring -0/-1. LG really is free points and you have to take advantage of it.

If you have any questions, don't hesitate to reach out.

Hi everyone - I took the LSAT last November and got a 149. I studied for a few months and this November I got a 149 again. What am I doing wrong? I went through the majority of the core curriculum but haven't done that much drilling overall, so maybe that is my problem?

I am very frustrated. I am signed up to take the January LSAT again.

Hi! So I recently graduated from college therefore spending over $150 on an hour of tutoring is completely out of the question. Is Wyzant a reliable website for finding an LSAT tutor? The site shows each tutor's hourly rate, how many hours they've tutored, credentials, reviews, and whether or not Wyzant has completed their background check. 7Sage is great but I REALLY need affordable one-on-one for the logic games. Everyone says it gets easier but that hasn't been the case for me in any way.

Hello,

I am currently looking for someone who can study with me and to also provide me with tips to get my section timing better. Just got my score back from November and I’m thinking I should retake as I feel I can get a few more points. I sit in the 140 range.

Currently, logic games is my best section and reading comp is my worst section.

We can zoom and I’d totally be willing to help you where needed.

As I'm working my way through the lessons, I noticed the Prep Tests will show how many questions I've already encountered on that given test. Does 7sage ensure a number of tests are left untouched so you get a sense of a real practice test? I want to make sure they'll be tests where I don't already have an answer memorized.

Can someone please provide a link that facilitates access to the January 2024 Crystal Ball Predictions? Unfortunately, I missed the date.

I'm an undergraduate student juggling full-time work, full time study while living independently. My current gpa is 3.8. In my initial attempt at the LSAT, I began with a diagnostic score of 135. Despite dedicated self-study since September 2023, my November LSAT score was 143, falling short of my goal in the 158-160 range. This was disheartening, especially considering my average practice scores were in the 150s. As a mature student, I'm eager to avoid waiting another year.

Seeking guidance, I've never enlisted the help of a tutor, relying solely on self-study. I'm now seeking advice on recommended books, potential tutoring options, or any resources that could aid in reaching my goal. Any assistance or suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Hey Team!

I took the November LSAT and scored a 180. I wanted to come on here to thank JY and the 7Sage team for their materials and keeping the community vibrant, as well as leave some parting words for struggling LSAT takers.

I think my diagnostic was around a 158. I studied on and off for two years because I was working full-time, but quit this past June to focus on the LSAT. Logic Games were extremely unintuitive to me, but I kept doing sets and watching JY's videos until they made sense. For RC and LR, I found that not highlighting and instead giving differential weight to the conclusion and tone of the author or conclusion in connection to premise was easier for me and also saved time. For context, I read a lot of literature and was an English major in undergrad, so this might work better for people who have existing reading skills.

That said, I was plateau'd between around 165-168 for three months. It was awful and demoralizing, and what helped me improve was grinding LG and then relaxing in my approach toward LR and RC. I found I was anxious about a lot of questions to the point that I wasn't actually trying to solve them. I spent some time sitting with difficult LR questions and simply trying to understand the logic through a lens of language and simple understanding. I hope that helps someone here!

Anyway, I'll be leaving here but good luck to everyone. The LSAT does not define you, but you can see massive score increases if you work for it. Lots of love!