I'm feeling really hopeless when it comes to logic games. I'm still only able to really get -3 on new sections within the time constraints. I feel like I've been working on logic games for such a long time and I'm just curious how long it took others to prefect their score? Really need a high LSAT score to balance out my low GPA so it's not an option to be getting anything worse than -1/-0 on this section.

Hey guys, please comment below if you are interested in joining a study group for LR, esp. those aiming for 165-170+. This group will do, discuss, and review hard LR questions 3 times a week virtually.

I am writing this because I just took my first practice test since my diagnostic, which was on December 15th (6 weeks ago). My diagnostic was a 154, with a -6 on LG, -5 on LR, and -13 on RC (I got really fatigued during this section and ended up running out of time with like 10 questions left and folded). I am applying to Harvard's Junior Deferral Program this summer. My goal score is a 175, because I have a slightly below 25th percentile GPA for Harvard, so I need to at least be slightly above the median on the LSAT. I am taking the LSAT in April, with the opportunity to take it one more time in June if I do not get my target score.

My process up to this point was that I went through the core curriculum and finished everything. I did not do blind review in the interest of time, instead I would look at the answers and watch the videos for the ones I got wrong, and the explanations for the ones I got right but spent more than the recommended time on. My reasoning for this was that I could always go back and study the questions more intensely later on, if I have trouble with a particular problem type or question, but I did not want to linger too long on anything if I was going to finish the core curriculum before taking a practice test, (which my obsessive mind felt like was necessary). That might also just have been me being lazy, but oh well.

Today I took the February 1997 Practice Test, and got a 172, -4 on LG, -2 on LR, -4 on RC. On Blind review I got a 178, -0 on LG, -2 on LR, and -1 on RC. A big thing was that I had run out of time on the last logic game and went back and pretty quickly fixed 3 incorrect answers. When I submitted I was completely expecting a 165ish score, and it popped out a 172. Obviously I was stoked, but now I have to reevaluate my plan for the next 3 months. I am just 3 points below my goal score, and 2 points below a perfect score on BR, which makes me believe that a 180 is in reach.

I was wondering if anybody had any advice on how to best handle these next 3 months to improve a 172. A big issue I am having so far is time management, which I think will come together as I do more practice tests. But would love to hear in general if anybody has any tips about inching out points in the 170's, and trying to get a perfect score.

I say all this with the thought that it could very well be a fluke and I go back to the 160's next PT, and I still have a lot more work to do like I was anticipating, but I am hoping that is not the case.

It’s been a couple months since I last studied and took my fourth and final LSAT in November last year. Having received my first law school acceptance to one of my top choices (UVic) yesterday, I figured it was time to shed light on my journey to encourage those who feel hardstruck/plateaued in their LSAT journey. I have been in that position many many times on and off studying over the years and have doubted whether I have what it takes to get to law school at my lowest points. For context, my first score/diagnostic was a 148 and I took the LSAT four times: 156 (June 2021)->161 (Jan 2022)->162 (June 2022)-> 166 (Nov 2022). I also want to take the time to thank 7sage as I truly credit my score improvement to the core curriculum and forum advice/guides. Good luck and all the best for applicants this cycle and for those grinding it out/prepping!

Can someone look over my diversity statement? I am confused of whether it will strengthen my application. Anyone?

I would appreciate it.

I am about 28% through the CC and I honestly cannot feel myself progressing, perhaps it will all come to fruition once I finish it and begin taking PT's but I can't lie, it becomes really discouraging to consistently get so many of the drill sets wrong :/ any advice i guess lol

I just wanted to say thank you to 7Sage and everyone in these discussions for the help throughout my studying which started back in May 22, through my application submitting and everything else. I went from a 154 diagnostic to a 174 actual test, and managed to secure admission to multiple T14 schools. Today I was admitted ED at UVA, so that'll be where I am off to next! Can't recommend 7Sage enough because it wouldn't have happened otherwise!

I’m wondering how can I decide a question tag, such as “INF” “RecS” “AppP”, on my own? Can I tell directly based on the question or do I have to look at answer choices?

Does anyone know any study videos or articles for such relevant topics on differentiating different tags/structures?

Thank you!

Am I the only one experiencing this? I was currently on introduction to lawgic ldoing practice questions of the groups but noticed the video hasn't appeared. i already cleared my data and im unsure what to do.

On the February LSAT, or any upcoming LSAT really, is any one section more likely to appear as an experimental, or does each have a 1/3 chance? I see lots of 2 LR sections for recent exams posted recently than 2 LG, for example. maybe sampling bias ?

Hey! Does anyone know when/how we will be able to sign up for our date/time with ProctorU for the February exam? I haven't gotten an email yet and just want to make sure I didn't miss anything!

What are peoples strategies for marking up a passage?

Do you use the different highlight colors + the underline tool for different, specific types of information?

I've just started studying RC and am trying to come up with as system for marking up passages that makes it easier to go back and find info when I'm on the questions. I am curious as to what worked for others.

As of now, all I have is that I am going to underline time indicators. (Such as: before, after, until recently, now, back then, previously, etc.)

I know some people feel like it could be a time suck, but I have such a hard time being engaged with the passages I think using the tools will make me actively think about what information falls into what category and how it all fits together. I'd love others' input on this as well.

Hello! I have just begun studying for my LSAT and was wondering if you all think its necessary to watch video explanations for questions that you got right?

"If you study, you will beat the LSAT." This is an example given here on 7sage, and it seems to work. Studying is a sufficient condition to beat the LSAT (apparently). S -> B

On another website, an example was given along the lines of: "If I put gas in my car, my car will run." And, here, putting gas in the car was said to be the necessary condition. The car needs gas to run. Gas is necessary for the car to run. CR -> G

But in that example, IF introduces the necessary condition, not the sufficient condition. What am I not understanding exactly? Does IF introduce sufficient conditions or necessary conditions? Huge thanks in advance!

Need help with this question. Understanding it was a little hard.

Someone tell me if I'm correct in this logic. This is for question #2. Here is the link.

https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/quiz-on-finding-sufficient-assumptions-with-intersection-statements-2-answers/?ss_completed_lesson=11895

G –m→ N

G –m→ /A

G-m->N-m->/A = I’m not able to draw it out like how JY does so this is what I put however, on paper I draw it out like JY does.

N—>/A = Answer

So in regards to N-m->/A not being the answer, let me explain.

/A

/A

GN

GN

GN/A

GN/A

G/A

G/A

N/A

N/A

Now the reason N-m->/A is incorrect is because this answer would effect the conclusion. Say you had more A’s and more N’s then it wouldn’t be the case that G-m->/A is the answer because look, I have more A’s and N’s that are not G’s so how could G –m→ /A? This would make the conclusion invalid. It has to be certain that most G’s are /A and by getting ride of N-m->/A statement were getting ride of the extra two N’s that carry A with it as well as the other extra two /A’s. If N-m->/A then how does G-m->/A work? Out of the 6 N’s, two are A which pulls from the conclusion by saying, “No, G-m->/A invalid because we have two extra A’s therefore out of all the A’s which is 8 (100%) only 4 G’s are A’s and it needs to be 5 to count for most. The N-m->/A is satisfied but doesn’t allow the conclusion to be valid so the sufficient assumption that N—>/A makes it 100% true that yes G –m→ /A.

GN

GN

GN/A

GN/A

G/A

G/A

Does anyone have an explanation for why the answer wouldn't be A? Thanks!

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I was wondering when it is appropriate to start foolproofing logic games? I went through each kind of game (actually through blueprint's curriculum, but I really disliked Blueprint's explanations, so I just signed up for 7sage). I have a general feel for each kind of game but am still not great and below average at LG.

I plan to start foolproofing the games from tests 1-35 (aim to do 1 or 2 a day) and on the side continue drilling with 7sage a few games a day (not necessarily foolproofing).

Does anyone have any input?

So I took LSAT in Oct-2022 after my last score expired and received 178+.

The HLS website says one can't apply more than 3-times.

I applied earlier that many times with only 165 and later with 171 but sometimes very late in the cycle.

Now my stats are much improved and have gained additional strong softs since last app.

Is this application limit retroactive or any exceptions?

Is anyone in similar boat or looked into this before?

Hi!

I have all the pieces needed to finish the app EXCEPT the lsat score.

The January test is the only test I have on record and the results are coming out Feb 1st.

Is it possible to apply before the test score is out?

It doesn't seem like there is a separate button for 'pending results' on the app...

Please please help bc schools like UCLA require the application to be submitted by Feb 1st so I am unsure what to do. Thank you!!

I've been struggling with MSS questions, so I drill every day. I would love someone's explanation of why D is correct. I chose B. I find myself I think making assumptions instead of taking everything I need for my answer from the stimulus. Along with this, any strategies for MSS questions??? Thank you!!!

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Reasoning structure currently seems like an abstract idea when it comes to reading comprehension. My goal is to make it more of a practical understanding, kind of like how I understand diagramming in logic games.

I am starting to think of looking at reasoning structure for a reading comprehension passage similar to how I look at a method of reasoning question on logical reasoning. This seems to help, but need to practice this more with passages.

Any insight on I can transition my understanding of reasoning structure from something abstract to more of a practical understanding?

Is there a explanation video for this question, I was not able to find it.

LG is by far my worst section and I am looking to test in June. I'm on the "Introduction to Logic" section of the Core Curriculum (pretty early), but is the core curriculum necessary before getting into "Introduction to Logic Games & Sequencing Games"?

Also, I bought the Logic Games Bible. At what point in the study process should I start with that-- is there a section in the CC anyone would recommend getting to first? Thanks.

I went to a military academy where we were mandated to complete various physical education, survival, and combatives courses. The classes were notoriously difficult with less than 10% of the class receiving A grades. Because these classes provided course hours and were not considered "pass/fail" the LSAC included my grades in its GPA calculation.

Is it worth providing a similar background in my applications' "Explanation of Grades/Scores" sections? I have a 3.64 now, but believe that if these courses were not considered, then my GPA would receive a notable boost.