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Hi everyone! Need some advice here- I took the April '23 LSAT and scored a 169. Took the summer off after graduating and am now back to studying for the Feb '24 LSAT.

For some background: when I 'took' PT 45 in pieces beginning of Oct (taking sections over a few days) I got a 172 (174 BR), now I'm back to PT'ing around high 160s. I've been alternating between drilling and taking sections - should I just stick to drilling? I feel like I have the potential but I'm getting a bit frustrated.

My latest PT was PT 86 (167, 169 BR). -2 LR, -1 LG (-0 BR), -5 RC (-4 BR), and -6 LR (-5 BR). I do have a tutor and we've been working on weaknesses but I want to make sure I'm making the most of my time outside those weekly meetings.

Right now my plan is to drill LR weaknesses (NA, PSAr, Streng, PSAa, SA, MC, Method, Weak, MBF - whew that feels like a lot!), drill LG weaknesses (InoSeq, GrpPure), and slow wayyyyyy down when doing/drilling RC.

Any recommendations or suggestions would be great - thank you!

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I emailed inquiring help for logging in. I can log into the app just fine but online suddenly does not work for me. Can someone please tell me the email to send it to? I sent it to studentservice@7sage.com

Is that the correct address! I really need the bigger computer screen to help with games.

Thank you for the help!

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Hi all! I am taking the January LSAT, but I am wanting to submit my applications for fall 2024 now. Should I add an addendum that states that, especially if most law schools already have a section that allows me to indicate this?

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In August, I hit 159 in one of my preptests. I took the LSAT and unfortunately bombed it, scoring a 153 or so. My goal has been a 170+. After a break from studying, I resumed studying around mid to late October to prepare for the January LSAT. Since then, I've been averaging a 157-159. My BR also remains between 163-164. The highest BR I've ever gotten was a 168. I'm starting to feel that day was just luck. I panicked last week and shifted my exam date to February. As you can imagine, this feels pretty heartbreaking. I took a PT today, scored a 158. BR 163. I've been consistent and thorough. I spend 4-6 hours of my day studying. Sometimes more. I don't know what to do anymore. I'm starting to fear that maybe this is my limit. While I don't want to accept that, it may just be a hard pill to swallow. It's pathetic but I can't help but cry right now.

To break down my progress, I average a -5 to -2 in LG, -9 in LR, and a -10 in RC.

My goal this December is to bring LG down to a -0 which I think I am on track doing and LR to a -5. I fluctuate a bit too much with RC to get comfortable but I will try to work on my time when reading passages more as I noticed time is a my limiting factor there.

Most of my frustration lies with LR. I would appreciate any tips. I've read various forums and have incorporated these tips into my regime but after today I don't know anymore.

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Trying out PrepTest B - Section 1 - Question 23 (Deep tillage is even more deleterious to the world's top soil supply than previously believed...) I understand why C is the right answer but I just can't seem to explain to myself why A isn't the right answer. Thoughts?

Admin note: edited title; please use the format of "PT#.S#.Q# - [first set of words]"

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How many practice tests is too many to take in the span of a week? I have registered for the January LSAT and have only started studying Oct 30. Which will give me 2 months and a week of prep, which I know is not ideal. I have completed all power score bibles, so I have been doing their logic games workbook and doing random sections. Because of my limited time, would doing more than 1 practice LSAT a week hurt more than help?

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I started studying in September but had to pause mid-September to early November for work. I'm aiming for a 177-178, but I can only manage -1 on LG, -2 or 3 on LR, and -1 or 2 on RC and have been at that level for two weeks with no improvement. Should I just give up on January? I'd like to hear from people that have been able to get past a plateau.

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Hey, everyone.

I never thought I'd be back at square 1 again to redo this exam. I took it in 2021 and got a 154 which was a huge jump from my 137 in 2017. I started my first year at law school from 2022-2023. Unfortunately, since I was not eligible for any loans, I worked full time and overtime throughout my 1L to pay for tuition, and attended school part time. My grades suffered and ultimately my health, too. I was dismissed just at the start of the Fall 2023 semester with no permission for an appeal, though the school was aware of my financial circumstances, and the dismissal letter stated that I was 'facing significant non-academic issues that placed tremendous demands on [your] time'. I tried to apply to a few schools just a few weeks ago after I finally got over the initial shock of being dismissed and having a tarnished record, but none of them allow me to even put in an application for another 2 years after this dismissal. I signed up for the June 2024 exam to see if I can get a higher score, with the intention to try and apply again in Fall 2024 with the hope of returning to law school in 2025 [not my previous law school and ideally a higher ranked one]. Have any of you been in this kind of situation?

For the record, I am not a poor student, but I am financially poor. As an immigrant, I am not allowed to ask for loans. I have paid out of pocket for all my education and even relied on TAP for my undergrad and grad degrees. I graduated from Harvard University with a 3.25 for my Bachelors [took 6 years] and later on with 3.69 for my Masters [took 3 years], and I have 9 years experience as a certified family law paralegal. I'm currently self-employed as an educational consultant and I prepare legal documents for low-income clients with family law cases. My hope was that I would finish law school by my late 30s so I could still commission for JAG and help military personnel going through family law cases, since military and veterans are under-represented in family law courts due to stereo-types associated with their experience, careers, and health.

I'm not saying I'm a great candidate compared to others who already hold multiple degrees and other doctorates, or those with higher LSAT scores, but this dismissal is making me doubt if future law schools would even care to consider these circumstances in conjunction with my experience and note that I am not a bad student.

At this point, is it even worth re-taking this exam and starting from scratch?

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I have plateaued at about 167-169 with a BR score about 10 points higher every time. My goal is to close this gap as much as possible before January by focusing on timing, process, and specific weaknesses. I'm debating whether to get a tutor, but thought I would throw this out there to see if anyone is in a similar position and is interested in studying?

Goals: Specifically work on timing, process hitches, and targeting specific weaknesses

Suggested Method: For at lease one PT each week (in the 70 - 80s) reviewing any timing issues, missed question or questions that took a long time, and addressing why and brainstorming how to fix.

Message me if you're interested in studying like this! I am open to doing whatever works best for folks, zoom/discord etc. I am a non-traditional applicant and work, but I have a pretty flexible schedule.

Thanks!

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Hello,

I am currently looking for someone who can study with me and to also provide me with tips to get my section timing better. Just got my score back from November and I’m thinking I should retake as I feel I can get a few more points. I sit in the 140 range.

Currently, logic games is my best section and reading comp is my worst section.

We can zoom and I’d totally be willing to help you where needed.

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Hi everyone - I took the LSAT last November and got a 149. I studied for a few months and this November I got a 149 again. What am I doing wrong? I went through the majority of the core curriculum but haven't done that much drilling overall, so maybe that is my problem?

I am very frustrated. I am signed up to take the January LSAT again.

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Hey Team!

I took the November LSAT and scored a 180. I wanted to come on here to thank JY and the 7Sage team for their materials and keeping the community vibrant, as well as leave some parting words for struggling LSAT takers.

I think my diagnostic was around a 158. I studied on and off for two years because I was working full-time, but quit this past June to focus on the LSAT. Logic Games were extremely unintuitive to me, but I kept doing sets and watching JY's videos until they made sense. For RC and LR, I found that not highlighting and instead giving differential weight to the conclusion and tone of the author or conclusion in connection to premise was easier for me and also saved time. For context, I read a lot of literature and was an English major in undergrad, so this might work better for people who have existing reading skills.

That said, I was plateau'd between around 165-168 for three months. It was awful and demoralizing, and what helped me improve was grinding LG and then relaxing in my approach toward LR and RC. I found I was anxious about a lot of questions to the point that I wasn't actually trying to solve them. I spent some time sitting with difficult LR questions and simply trying to understand the logic through a lens of language and simple understanding. I hope that helps someone here!

Anyway, I'll be leaving here but good luck to everyone. The LSAT does not define you, but you can see massive score increases if you work for it. Lots of love!

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Hi all! I am registered to take the January 2024 (+ potentially February) test and was wondering if anyone would like to form an in-person study group. I have been studying for ~6 months and am looking to fine-tune my skills and stay motivated.

Zoom works as well!

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God has really blessed me! I took the lsat 5 times and finally got a 150! I know its not much but im so happy! I want to thank 7sage for all their support!!

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Hey all,

Just wanted to thank 7sage team and give a few words of advice that I hope will help someone out.

First off, the LSAT can't take over your life. Sometimes, you simply just have to stop thinking about the test. If you don't, you'll burn yourself out and perform poorly. I spent May through September cooped up in a small room studying for one too many hours/day and I suffered for it. Started living life a little bit in October and saw score increase of +5 on my PT's and on my actual exam. Of course this is not the only reason my score improved, but it is certainly one of them. Time away from the test is crucial for the learning process. Go for a walk. Play with your pets. Do anything but the LSAT.

For LR: Practice visualising every stimulus you see. This was the game changer for me. Visualising what you read leads to being engaged with the material which leads to an understanding of it. Do untimed practice questions until you are comfortable making a mental image of each stimulus you read. Just a heads up, this takes lots of practice. But if you master it, it is an extremely effective strategy.

For RC: Same advice as LR. Practice untimed passages and visualize every sentence you read. Your mental image of each sentence should allow you to understand it. Once you get good at that, read whole passages and visualize the main points of each paragraph (or at least something notable from the paragraph). This made me a MUCH more engaged test taker. I actually started finding the passages interesting once I started doing this.

For LG: Drill, drill, drill. There is no way around it. If you do logic games enough, you will rarely miss a question. I probably spent around 700 hours drilling logic games. Yes, it sucks but if you do it enough you'll rarely see a game that gives you any trouble. By the end of my prep, I was completing full sections in around 25 minutes and scoring -0/-1. LG really is free points and you have to take advantage of it.

If you have any questions, don't hesitate to reach out.

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As I'm working my way through the lessons, I noticed the Prep Tests will show how many questions I've already encountered on that given test. Does 7sage ensure a number of tests are left untouched so you get a sense of a real practice test? I want to make sure they'll be tests where I don't already have an answer memorized.

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Hi! So I recently graduated from college therefore spending over $150 on an hour of tutoring is completely out of the question. Is Wyzant a reliable website for finding an LSAT tutor? The site shows each tutor's hourly rate, how many hours they've tutored, credentials, reviews, and whether or not Wyzant has completed their background check. 7Sage is great but I REALLY need affordable one-on-one for the logic games. Everyone says it gets easier but that hasn't been the case for me in any way.

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