is the new lsat (all 2022 tests) 3 or 4 scored sections? i've read different things.

Hi everyone! I'm Raphael and I'm one of the 99th-percentile tutors here at 7Sage. This coming month, I'm offering a group class to teach LSAT fundamentals. This class is perfect for those of you who are still working through core curriculum or those who, after finishing it, still feel like they want a bump on fundamentals and elements of timing.

Classes begin Thursday, August 4th, at 9pm and meet weekly at that time through October 10.

We have 16 spots, but they fill up fast. Join us here, and comment below if you have questions! https://classic.7sage.com/lsat-fundamental-piliero-august/

Are you a 7Sage user looking for people to study with? Wish there was an easy way to get paired up?

You're in luck! Join us for our next "Study Group Breakout" on Monday, August 1st from 9:00-10:30pm ET.

Here's how it works:

Hope to see you there! Register for the event using this link:

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I recently completed the first PT in the curriculum (February 1997) and was very surprised to see I achieved a 166. Due to the age of this LSAT, is this score inflated compared to what my score would be on a modern version of the test? If I took the modern LSAT tomorrow, would I expect a similar score (of course ignoring nervousness and slightly changed question types)?

I also took the October 2002 PT and scored 162, but since this is also quite old, is this score also inflated?

Ive read the "how to understand your LSAT score" thing many times, but im still not sure if I completely understand, and perhaps this is where my confusion is coming from.

Thanks!

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Hi all,

When using the Auto Builder in Drilling mode for LR, I selected "incorrect questions from PTs previously taken." Yet, it used two questions from a PT I have not previously taken. I have few clean PTs left and I'm skeptical to use it again if it will draw from those clean PTs. Any assistance or advice is greatly appreciated, thank you.

Hi, I'll be taking the August test and I wanted to know if anyone had any tips on timing for LR and problem solving. My goal score is a 170-175 and I'm finding myself stuck on certain question types. I'm currently scoring in the mid 160s and have majority of my wrong answers in LR. Thanks!

Just started RC for like a month. Realize that most of questions I got wrong are either because I think too much or think too little (ignore some details which are stupidly obvious). Also struggling with time… Too much time wasted on reading and overthinking… I am not a good reader. The only books I ve read in my life are textbooks… Did my best to follow what JY suggested but got -14 on the Feb 1997 PT and scored 155. Feel crashed… I mean at least I need get over 160… A lot of people say I just need to practice more. But seriously, can practice actually make you better (not even perfect) on RC?

I was just wondering if after purchasing an editing package we are able to choose the person who edits it from the list of editors? Let me know! Thank you!

So next to all lessons on the syllabus there is an estimated time it takes to complete that lesson. Do you all find the estimate to be a reasonable amount of time per lesson?

I am asking because I just spent about an hour and a half on a lesson that is estimated at 7mins. I find I frequently take much longer than the estimated time (I have never requested or received extended test times or any other accommodations in college).

I spent that time reading the text, watching the video, hand writing notes, reading some of the comments, and copying down very helpful info from the top rated comments, and googling a few quick definitions.

I just constantly feel like I am going too slow, and not making enough progress fast enough. If I recall, the total estimated time for my study plan is like 577 hours. If that is calculated using their estimated times, and I almost always run over, the 577 is gonna be more like 1000 or 1500+ hours of studying. Meaning instead of being able to stick to my 9 or 12 months of studying it could be 24 or even 36+ months of studying. Which is kinda freaking me out at this point. Anyone have any advice or anything?

Need an affordable tutor (20$ to 30$) specifically for LR. I am currently at -6/7.

Just getting started with 7sage and wanted to know if drills were incorporated into our study schedule or if that's something we should do on our own? I also saw that these drills come from PTs and wanted to know if that would affect my performance when I take these tests after completing the core curriculum.

Hey guys!

I would like to gather 4-5 people who will be responsible to join for regular zoom study sessions.

I am currently scoring mid-160, and is aiming for 175+ for the upcoming Oct exam. (Never set your goals too low haha)

Anyway, I am thinking about holding 3 meetings per week (Any three days during the week, but staring at 10 am ET). I am expecting about 1hr30ms-2hrs per study session. I am currently in South Korea, so people in similar time zones would be preferred (10am ET equals 11pm KST)

So please comment or message me if you are available during that time.

Thanks :>

Hi, I was wondering if anyone would be interested on joining a "Studygroup" plan on taking the LSAT this November and I'm among for a 160.

Hello! I am new to 7sage and the LSAT! I was wondering if anyone had tips, stories about their journey, etc. that they would be willing to share. I also would love to connect with anyone else that is new and would be down to maybe study together / contact each other with questions or support each other. Good Luck to everyone! Thank you for reading

Hi all! Wondering if anyone is interested in a Saturday study group 9 or 10am CT (depending on interest). Instead of wanting to reach a certain score, we'll be focusing on our worst section specific questions. :) Comment if interested!

Edit: Zoom links to both classes on 7/23 are below in chat.

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I notice that I consistently struggle with stims or RC passages that deal with econ subjects - does anyone have any suggestions of outside resources I could read/listen through? I want to supplement my LSAT studying with outside content on specific subjects since I find I kind of get paralyzed by econ based questions since I never studied it in uni.

I'm thinking maybe podcasts or articles/books to help me get more comfortable with the terms that often come up in those types of questions so I can hopefully stop overthinking them.

Thanks!

My LR section is my worst and most inconsistent section, ranging from 17 to 23 on any particular test. I really want to get it up to a consistent 23, but I'm not sure how.

Things I've been doing:

I take the LSAT in a month, and I've been plateauing on my LR for about two months. Any help would be much appreciated.

where can I find JY talk about this knock out vs sneak in method? I cannot find the lesson, I even already asked this question and then lost the lesson/wherever I asked the question AGAIN lol! Thank you in advance to anyone who knows!

can I see how long / many hours I have spent doing the drills section?

Hi all!

First off, I want to say thank you to the 7sage community and the various tutors that have helped me along the way, @Mike_Ross @"Heart Shaped Box" , and @BinghamtonDave . All of them have been invaluable in the process of “taking down” this test! Couldn’t ask for more.

I imagine some of you might wanna know how I got here. Allow me to explain.

Well, it started in July 2019 with a Testmasters course (terrible decision I know) and consisted of about 2 years of actual studying. To say that it’s been a rollercoaster of emotions would be an understatement. Since undergrad was fairly easy, I thought I’d study for 3-4 months and ace this test like usual. Boi was I wrong!!!!

It was difficult, I felt incompetent, & I wanted to give up. But, (I know, cliche) I persisted. I drew motivation from various posts here which pushed me to continue. Simultaneously, I began to search for other sources for help. The most useful for me were:

The Loophole by Ellen Cassidy

Khan Academy

Manhattan Prep's forum

I'll explain what from each of those sources were most helpful, starting with The Loophole.

While the book doesn't necessarily offer anything novel in terms of LSAT "theory", it did have 2 aspects that I found super beneficial. The first being how the book teaches you to find the assumptions in an argument. I struggled with this a lot before reading the book. It asks you to find the loophole (the thing that would ruin the argument) by asking "what if...this bad thing is true?" For whatever reason, asking "what if" after reading an argument helped me get to the assumptions easier. Eventually, I stopped having to do this as I imagine I internalized it and assumptions were just so apparent then.

The second element of the book and probably most beneficial to my studies was the translation drill. At its core, the drill asks you to read a stimulus once and then write out what it said w/o going back. This does two things: it improves your memory but more importantly, for me, it examines whether you actually understand what you're reading and it turned out I didn't. In my experience, it was a combination of reading too fast, nerves, and not being focused that were isrupting my comprehension. I had to force myself to slow down and to focus on the subject and verb predicate (I also tried to visualize as I read). The nerves went away with successful repetition.

Khan Academy

I was thoroughly pleased with their RC strategies. The most important thing to success in RC is that you understand the function of paragraphs with respect to the others and the function of sentences with respect to other sentences. The former is pretty straight forward so I'll just explain what I mean by the latter. Sometimes you'll come across a sentence within a paragraph that seems to not fit within the given paragraph that it's in. But, the thing is, it absolutely fits. You just didn't understand its function in relation to the rest of the paragraph. This is by design to confuse you. Your goal is to connect the dots to the other sentences.

KA advocates that you think of why the author included something, which is really just asking what the function of something is.

Manhattan Prep Forums

I'm not sure this needs any explaining. Whenever I felt I still didn't quite understand an LR question after watching a 7sage explanation vid and perusing the comments, I would go straight to their forums. Great written explanations there.

Those are the highlights of my journey. Of course, lots of drilling and BR and thoroughly examining my weaknesses on spreadsheets.

If anyone has any questions, feel free to message me!

And before I go, I just want to say to anyone barely starting off or if you've been at it for a while that it's normal to feel overwhelmed or discouraged. Remember, progress is not linear. You're capable. And with diligent study, you can reach your goal score!

I am not sure why the time on the core curriculum problem sets populates to unlimited time. Can someone please help!!

Why does the majority of 7sage PT's begin with the RC section when you select the "simulate modern" format? I don't want to begin almost every PT with RC. Is there some way to change this??

So, I always do really great in practice and drills, but everytime I take a prep test I just dont do well. I will go through 30 questions timed and get nearly every single one right while I am drilling different things, but then I sit down to do a whole prep test and get way too many wrong even though I know what I have to do. Has this happened to anyone else? Any tips? I feel like maybe I am not taking the prep tests as seriously as I should and not acting as if they are the real thing to really see where I am at.

Is there a difference between MP and MC questions? To my understanding, MP applies to arguments. Are you supposed to approach them differently ?

Thank you in advance :)

Is drilling mode Auto Builder not working for anyone else? I was so excited when this feature came out and utilized it for about a week before it stopped working. I thought it was a temporary bug but I haven't been able to use it for over 2 weeks now. Anyone else?